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Re: Teddy Allen
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We have 4 commits and 2 seniors. An I right or no? So if that’s so who’s the other two that leave ?


Routt is a walk-on who was given a scholarship because we had one available. Doubt he'll get it next year.

If your 4 are McCabe, Doomes, Gordon and Culver, I haven't read that McCabe is signed yet and Culver may or may not ever arrive.

If all 4 show up, even if Routt goes back to walk-on status, we still have an extra player.

If I had to guess, I'd say that Hunter is currently the last man off the bench, but who knows?


Routt played his rear end off last night and has given this team exponentially more than Bender in much fewer minutes. From my perspective he's earned that scholarship and the clock has ran out on Bender. I would expect Huggins to politely show Bender the door after the season if he needs a scholarship

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Still citing Alex Jones, I see. Referencing Alex Jones as proof there is a deep state conspiracy is like citing Oliver Stone's JFK as proof there was a conspiracy to assassinate the former president. The man is an entertainer, nothing more. Get over it


There’s nothing to get over. What makes Alex Jones an entertainer? Just because you say so. Now that’s pretty childish isn’t it.

It’s so amusing watching the white knuckled liberals hanging onto their dwindling hopes of changing reality. Face it you were following criminals, that actions are now coming into full view. You’ve been the willing dupes of those who have been working behind the scenes to undermine the fabric of our country.

One of the last acts of a President you hold in high esteem was try to force the public to allow men dressed as women to use the same bathrooms as little girls.

Sorry if I don’t change my mind and get in line with a group of sycophants.


Jones' own lawyers argued he was a performance artist during his child custody hearing, one in which he lost. If he's not an entertainer, he's a cult leader. Despite all of his posturing, he quickly backed down when threatened with a lawsuit by Chobani and the owner of the DC pizza chain he accused of being part of a pedophile ring. Any other time he's been exposed, he claims his work was that of satire.
I was embarrassed that people still followed this guy until I read this: "Social psychology professor Viren Swami of Anglia Ruskin University told NPR's Michel Martin that it's hard to change someone's belief once that person accepts a conspiracy theory. "We look for evidence that fits what we already know or what we already believe, and we try to avoid information or evidence that we either disagree with or that we know doesn't fit with our perspective," he said. "And if someone comes along and says, here's the evidence, your natural tendency's actually to rehearse arguments against that evidence."
Now I just feel sorry for those that desperately want to believe this garbage.

Just because someone identifies as transgender does not make them a pedophile. Pedophilia is something completely different. The transgender people I know just want to be accepted and treated with respect. I had the good fortune of working with a transgender woman just two weeks ago at one of our nations great automotive plants. She was hard working, pleasant, and was greeted everywhere in the plant by her co-workers. Not a single person cared about what bathroom she used. On the flipside, I had the misfortune of working with a person that was recently convicted of possessing child pornography. He was a married father of two and was a successful sales rep. He no longer works for us.

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Re: Dana Holgerson, was he overrated even as Offensive Coordinator?
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Take a good long look at Garin Justice. Then check out his wife. Recruiting would not be a problem for that guy.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Still citing Alex Jones, I see. Referencing Alex Jones as proof there is a deep state conspiracy is like citing Oliver Stone's JFK as proof there was a conspiracy to assassinate the former president. The man is an entertainer, nothing more. Get over it

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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JFK's Lasting Economic Legacy: Lower Tax Rates
https://www.npr.org/2013/11/12/2447725 ... ic-legacy-lower-tax-rates


Great article. Thanks for sharing. Let's highlight some takeaways

"That boom came after Kennedy got Congress to try to stimulate the economy by passing a "liberal" agenda that included:

Increasing the minimum wage.
Expanding unemployment benefits.
Boosting Social Security benefits to encourage workers to retire earlier.
Spending more for highway construction."

and

"...conditions were so different in the early 1960s, when the top marginal tax rate was 91 percent. The Kennedy-backed tax cuts took down that rate to 70 percent. Today, the highest rate is 39.6 percent. Cutting the top tax bracket now would not have the same impact because it already has been lowered several times, the argument goes."

and

" Kennedy's biggest tax cuts were aimed at average wage earners in hopes they would spend more. Boosting the demand side of the economy "gave us the widest prosperity and longest unbroken run of growth in history" up to then."



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Re: Dangerous Donald
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The rebound in the stock market was not from Obama regulation. It was from the golden parachutes and devaluation of our dollar that took place under Bush then Obama. The de-nutting of the Glass-Steagall legislation under Clinton helped pave the way to the eventual economic collapse. I'm not quite sure how you can blame trickle down economics for that.






I did not equate trickle down economics with the economic collapse but rather the drop in consumer confidence. The rebound in consumer confidence and the stock market started with financial regulations on the banking and financial regulatory systems (Dodd Frank). For all intents and purposes the financial bailouts worked. Generally, people like being able to keep their jobs. Also contributing to confidence levels were the continued tax cuts for people making less than $250k per year (American Taxpayer Relief Act). We can argue about the effectiveness of the Obama policies but if we're strictly looking at consumer confidence and stock market value, it's really hard to argue with the charts.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Deregulation led to the financial crisis at the tail end of the Bush administration. The Obama regulations and economic policies led to the rebound in consumer confidence and the stock market. Look at the Dow Jones chart. The stock market tripled under Obama. I don't think the stock market is the best indicator of how the economy is working but if that's what you want to shine a spotlight on then so be it.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Rasmussen and Drudge both have, at the end of their first years, as 46% approval, and 53% disapproval. Then take into the fact that you couldn't criticize Obama without being labeled as a racist, how Obama for the first 3 months did nothing but go on talk shows and be viewed as the greatest man alive, winning a Nobel peace prize for simply being half black and elected president, and how the entire media hates Trump every day for literally nothing and all of this fake Russia garbage FOR OVER A YEAR. For example running BREAKING NEWS headlines about Trump eating KFC with silverware, and eating 2 SCOOPS of ice cream while everybody else had one, or how much diet soda he drinks. And add in the fact that all of these polls are sampled heavily by dems (look at the election). For Trump to have the same approval rating as Obama is astonishing.

Talking about optimistic, consumer confidence is at its highest it's ever been thanks to Trump, which is why the economy is booming after a decade of stagnation, and the stock markets are closing in at record high after record high, simply because Trump has gotten rid of so many Obama era administration policies. Thanks for putting America first, President Trump.


The Rasmussen poll is actually slanted towards the Republican side. Rasmussen himself worked for the George W Bush administration. Almost every other poll shows Trumps approval hovering around 37%.

Since you brought up consumer confidence you should look at the following link that tracks that statistic:

https://data.oecd.org/leadind/consumer-confidence-index-cci.htm

Consumer confidence was at an all-time high at the tail end of the Clinton era. Then fell off a cliff under the GW Bush administration with his trickle down economics. Confidence grew consistently under Obama back to the Clinton Era levels. If consumer confidence is the metric you want to use, Obama's administration was a huge success. The same could be said about the stock market.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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The article cited was based on the latest Rasmussen Poll. I don’t pay much attention to polls. They are usually as polluted as the mainstream media outlets are. I figured it would trigger a few knee jerk reactions. I know a few of you spout about the polls occasionally.


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/trump-job-approval
This Huffington Post article has a table that shows that Trump is trending upwards towards 40% approval or better across the board.


"Trending towards" is a generous way of putting it. Trump approval has been pretty flat since he took office, and below 40%. He's never hit 40% on the Reuters Poll and below 40% on the fivethirtyeight poll since mid May. There was a recent spike in the Gallup poll, probably due to Trump and the "Merry Christmas" self-agrandizement. That spike was from 36% approval to 39%. I have a feeling that will fall back down to normal levels once the holiday hangover has worn off and the man continues to embarrass himself. Anyway, here's a link to the approval numbers:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/t ... l-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Trump's approval rating same as Obama in first year at office
http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news ... ear-at-office/520618.html

In addition Trump’s first year disapproval rating is one percent better than Obama’s first year.


You may want to do a little more research on the poll that has been cited

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Re: Dana Holgerson, was he overrated even as Offensive Coordinator?
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You can win no matter what scheme you run if you have quality players and depth.


Maybe, but when was the last time you saw a WVU RB rip off a 50 yard TD like Utah did to us? There is something going on with the blocking scheme for the run game. Either our linemen are terrible or the blocking scheme is poor. The playcalling has also left a lot to be desired. Its like we don't do any self scouting or make adjustments. Utah was ready for everything we ran.

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Re: Official unofficial Utah Utes game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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So why was Chugs given a scholarship? The boy played the pocket ok, but has no accuracy.


Not defending the complete performance of Chugs but did you watch the receivers? None of them extended their arms in the air to get a ball. Karaun White jumped once, I think, I was unsure if his feet actually cleared the top of the turf or not. Jennings was given a nice pass in the end zone and couldn't/wouldn't fight for the ball.

This team didn't give a crap about this game. Oh, there were individuals within the game that did but they were few and far between.

As I said in another thread I hope that Crawford was academically ineligible and he used the draft as a cover. If I had a guy tell me he was preparing for the draft and wasn't playing I would make sure to ask my other players if they were going to do that. If they were, they can clean out their crap and get out!

HTF do you "prepare" for the draft? Sit on your ass and wait for the phone to ring? Does that really take that much preparation?! Or does he think he can workout for the combines? Working out for the combines is the athletic equivalent of trying to learn Calculus during the last 3 days of dead week.

If I were a scout his holding out of the game would tell me all I needed to know. When I am 4-12 this cat is going to mail it in. He may even mail it in anytime he thinks there is no chance.

Now realize that if I had a Peyton Manning or a Big Ben or a n Antonio Brown I might look past that because of their ability but a guy like Crawford trying to move from 3 round to 2nd round......Isn't worth the baggage.

Sorry but the culture that is being cultivated currently in this program worries me. I hope it is all a cover but the apathy of this team yesterday showed me that the "stars" on the team didn't come to play or didn't come at all.


Disagree. I saw a ton of effort and guys that were trying like hell to win. I also saw a team completely devoid of talent at the QB, OL, DL, and CB positions. If you want to blame Holgorsen for the misses in recruiting, I am on board with that. I really only saw two instances where the receiver could have done more to help out Chugs: One was a deep ball to McCoy on the sideline, the other a deep ball to Simms. There wasn't a ball thrown to Sills all day that was remotely catchable. I channeled my inner Harry Doyle on practically every throw: "He's gonna need a rocket up his a$$ to catch that one." The offensive Line has been bad all season so I can't blame Crawford for sitting out. Our backups are plenty capable and we averaged 1.4 yards per carry. It's not like Bosch would have made much of a difference either. For our best offensive lineman this season, he left a lot to be desired. If you want to talk about our stars (Sills, Jennings, White, White, and Long), they showed up. But they can't do much when everybody else is flat-out BAD. Chugunov had the worst performance I've seen from a WVU QB since Derek Jones in '01 vs Miami. Chalk it up to another recruiting miss at that position. Some tough questions need to be asked about our recruiting at that position as well as the coaching/scheme along the offensive line, and the coaching/scheme of our entire defense. We cannot get pressure unless we blitz everyone, but our CBs are not even close to good enough to play man to man. We have to be able to get pressure without blitzing, even if it means dropping Long down to the DE position on 3rd down.

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Re: Official unofficial Utah Utes game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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We haven't had a good offensive line since Rick Trickett left. Trickett is currently available. We could sweeten the deal by bringing Clint on as well. If we could bring the older Trickett in, there are no two people on this staff that aren't expendable

Posted on: 12/26 8:04 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Call me petty, but I hope Williams never cracks the lineup at OSU.

Do coaches (or any fans for that matter) keep tabs on recruits that "Commit" to WVU then flip to another school....and how that usually ends up?

Like Tajh Boyd/Geno Smith...and Latwan Anderson, etc...


We had a verbal commitment from Tre Mason several years ago. Then he ends up at Auburn and wins a national title.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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If there's any consolation, it's that there are more highly rated DE's on OSU's recruiting board. For OSU, the ranking means more than bringing in a homegrown talent. With how easily accessible these lists are, most kids can see that. If I'm WVU I'm reminding him that, they may want you now but what about next year when they bring in 2 or 3 five-star guys because they're not comfortable with your three-star ranking

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Couple of updates. Jeremy Webb committed to Virginia Tech this evening, so WVU's top choice at CB is now off the board.

Perhaps a bit scarier in the long run, Ohio State is making a play for DE Alex Williams. They haven't offered officially yet, but most of the recruiting analysts around Ohio are already calling for a commitment flip. Williams has been a solid commit for months, but when the Buckeyes come calling to an Ohio kid, it is hard for them to pass up. Let's hope Mr. Williams has some Kwantel Raines in him and sticks with us. I think this kid is a steal.



OSU lost a D-Line commit last week. The scuttlebutt is that some SEC coaches started a rumor that the Buckeyes' D-line coach, Larry Johnson, was about to retire. Johnson came out and shot down the rumors recently. There's a chance the kid that de-committed could re-commit but I imagine OSU is covering their bases just in case. Johnson's history of putting players in the NFL is an incredible recruiting tool. WVU could offer him a better chance at earlier playing time. That OSU D-Line is stacked and they have several young players and 2018 recruits already on-board for that position.

Edit: OSU has lost 2 DE commits so far and have 3 DT recruits committed. This may not end well for us

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Re: Top 4????
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Actually, in the first playoff (2014) TCU should have gotten in over Florida State, not Ohio State.

Everyone agreed that FSU was NOT one of the four best teams, and they should not have gotten in. But, because they didn't lose a game and they won their conference championship, the committee said they HAD to put them in over TCU. They rationalized it by saying TCU hadn't won the conference outright (co-champs). Baylor got discounted for their OOC schedule.

Which, as we all know, leaving TCU out was complete BS.

This travesty actually led to the current "rule" of putting in the four BEST teams.

Alabama should be thanking TCU for taking the screwing in 2014 that allowed Bama to get in this year.


There was no way they were going to be able to keep FSU out of the playoff. I understand the 4 best and that they were not one of the four best....BUT....

FSU was the defending National Champion. They had no lost a game. How can one arbitrarily say that the reigning National Champion who hadn't lost any games isn't playoff worthy?

Any team that missed it this year with the exception of Georgia and Oklahoma has no one but themselves to blame. Win your games and you are in. FSU did all they could do in 2014. They won them all.


I will only add that Ohio State lost to a mediocre VT team at home in 2014. I remember that FSU team being suspect but they didn't lose.

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Re: Top 4????
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Chris Anderson tweeted earlier today that the only thing the Big 12 championship game accomplished was to knock TCU out of a new year's 6 Bowl, costing the conference millions. LOL


I get it now. So he was insinuating that the Big 12 should not have HAD a conference championship game at all?

I would say that with no championship game, the committee may have locked the Big 12 out, as they have in the past.


Oklahoma was safely in without the championship game. This season was a lose-lose situation for the conference championship game. I would say in most seasons, the way the conference is set up, the championship game will do more harm than good. 2014 is really the only scenario in which the championship game would serve it's purpose. TCU was on the fringe of the first playoff and would have had an opportunity to avenge its only loss to Baylor. That would have likely got them in over Ohio State.

However, in most years, the same scenario as this year is likely to play out. If TCU would have beaten Oklahoma this season they would have been thrown into a pool with OSU, USC, and Alabama in a pick 2 situation that they would have been left out in. If they want to conference championship game then they need to expand and form two divisions. Easier said than done, I know.

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Re: Top 4????
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Chris Anderson tweeted earlier today that the only thing the Big 12 championship game accomplished was to knock TCU out of a new year's 6 Bowl, costing the conference millions. LOL

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Re: Top 4????
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OSU should be in. I’ve watched them an Alabama a ton this year and IMO Ohio State is better. Their defensive line is better than the Browns. Barrett is a weakness but I think he’s similar to Hurts. Ohio St beat the pants off Wisky last night. Wisky got their points on a pick 6 and turnover. That game SHOULD have been 41-10. They beat PSU who is very good, Wisky and MSU badly. They have a bad loss for sure.

Alabama is not as dominant as they’ve been. They don’t pressure the QB as much as they have in the past and don’t create the havoc they used to with their front 7. They played very few ranked opponents and lost to one of them soundly.

Alabama would get crushed by Clemson. Ohio State can beat Clemson if Barrett avoids mistakes.

OSU should be in


I've watched every Ohio State game this season. They are a carbon copy of last year's team, antiquated/predictable offense and a defense that cannot contain semi-mobile QBs. Top level talent for sure, but it's wasted on Offense. Their defensive line can get upfield quickly. Most of the offenses they see in the Big 10 have pocket passers so those lineman can pin their ears back on every play. They were exposed against a very good Oklahoma team and a mediocre team with a good gameplan and a QB that could pull it off. If you look at Ohio State's offense, they have every weapon imaginable but a coach that wants to run his QB up the middle 20 times a game. Meyer used the exact same approach a few years ago. What happens? Predictably, Barrett gets hurt and they have to change to a gameplan that doesn't involve as many QB runs but rather a downfield passing game. The result? National title. They have Cardale Jones' heir apparent in Haskins. Everyone in town here knows it. But coach wants to run Barrett repeatedly and then gets upset when he can't complete a precision pass 40 yards downfield when he's gassed. Meyer went to the well one too many times against Wisconsin last night and got incredibly lucky. If Barret goes down on that 4th and short play it's a different ballgame. The weird part is that the majority of Ohio State fans around me are still steamed about the Iowa loss and don't feel this team deserves a spot in the playoff. That's something for the most homeristic fanbase in the country.

I think Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama would all run circles around Ohio State. Now, Ohio State versus USC in a major Bowl? That sells

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