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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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Lots of discord and much I agree with after watching our "NO CIGAR GANG" coughed it up a second time in a row. Bob, please get your game plan for scoring figured out as nobody is scoring in the clutch. The JC 3 point attempt late was a low arch shot that is a low percentage shot. All players (good NBA players) know you need an arch to improve your size of the basket and not a low angle shot with a small basket opening!

Not teaching a senior this basic skill is criminal! How can he play so poorly when we needed his best effort in the clutch. I love the fade away but not the stupid 3 pointer.

Posted on: 1/16 12:41 am
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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We are starting to get a think tank here! Scary thought for a sporting fan site.

Posted on: 1/15 7:36 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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In final thought about the Forfeiture Penalty for Courting Storming offenses; the leaders of college programs should implement this measure individually in order to show a higher ethical position to safeguard their monopolistic system that is raining money on these programs. If the Big12 is incapable of implementing this measure then individual colleges should shame them into compliance to primarily protect its players and show civility and respect to this great sporting activity.

Are you reading this E. Gordon Gee?

Posted on: 1/15 7:33 pm
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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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Sleeping after this home win will be blissful. Our guys are psyched up for this game. If we lose, it will be a light sleep night at best.

Our fb season's NC hopes are months away and back to back losses will doom this team's spirit; making a NC a true miracle, but not unreachable.

I have stated on this board that our chances of a NC are in Bob's hands in all likelihood. He is a proven winner and his team's performances have only gotten better over the past few seasons. He has depth and true talent; just needs to get the bandwagon rolling forward with a strong unity. Believing is required and his players believe in him and Bob believes in his players!

His famous quote I like the best is "Why settle for #2 when #1 is available!'

Posted on: 1/15 7:15 pm
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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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And why the leaders of collegiate sports are too feeble-minded not to have teased out an answer with teeth is beyond my understanding. Forfeiture is the only measure to guaranty NO STORMING will take place until 5 to 10 minutes after the game is over and the players and staff are safely guarded or removed from a hostile environment.

Yes, our institutional leaders must be aware of simple measures to dangerous situations and only think that throwing money at a problem is the only solution. How lame can they be if they can not use the mind's ability to the fullest and finally eliminate the unnecessary harmful situations for its players and staff?

Additionally, institutional sporting monopoly's should own up to their own guilt by making this forfeiture measure the law that will get the respect of all the meathead sports fans, delirious with an improbable win against the best teams in the nation.

Posted on: 1/15 7:05 pm
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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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83Grad go to sleep

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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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What makes reason is that the Big12 does not have a true interest in protecting the players. If they did then they would have a measure with TEETH, not some lame financial penalty. Call for the implementation of a forfeiture if the home fans can not control themselves until after the court is cleared! Now that will get some respect and put an end to the entire fiasco that they allow to continue. What are they doing if not sitting on their hands, while the players are being mugged and shoved by lawbreakers?

Why is nobody talking about measures to protect the players with meaningful compliance? Just same old blah blah blah

Posted on: 1/15 6:20 pm
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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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https://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/w ... 1a-b4c9-150201fdbc61.html

Court-storming victims are easy to join together in order to bring a class action lawsuit. If you can not protect the players then you should not have the game. Make each court stormer liable for breaking the law. A head count on TT will allow millions!!!!! Why is the Big12 so lazy to call a spade a spade in this case. They are hiding behind some veil of protection that can be broken with a mere whisper. They need to compensate WVU for the troubles they have brought our program. Since when is the victim of corporate ignorance and complacency to be held accountable for the actions of the others who break the law. You put a dog with a baby and he bites the baby and then finds the baby guilty of crying? Does not make sense to me.

Posted on: 1/15 4:08 pm
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Re: Public Relations - Wesley Harris
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What really gets me is that nobody can realize how Harris is feeling. Losing to TT in the final minutes of a highly fought away game that carried life-changing consequences as being the first team to be ranked #1 in over 70 years; a Jerry West accomplishment not repeated since 1958, losing Mountaineer fan support, losing position in our conference title march, losing number one seeding in the playoffs etc.

His brain was not thinking logically in a hostile environment. Here the TT fans come STORMING the field of play before he can seek solace. All around him are hostile fans and then he gets jolted from behind! Your damn right he is going to be upset and protective. No team support to rally together in such a situation but every man for himself. He reacted as have many other players in such an emotional situation and no blame is found on the causes that subjected him to such a barrage of hostile students. Where is the compassion for our team players? Why are they immediately found to be guilty when the environment was not their doing but a known hazard that has repeatedly been dodged by the authorities. Yes, we should not be quick to judge and take some reflection to view all sides. It is high time to get the lazy management groupthink that abuses the collegiate players to admit they are at fault and not the innocent victims of their folly.

Posted on: 1/15 3:41 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Damages can be emotional damages, loss of trust in the system and reputational damages in Harris's case. His future employment chances will have this stain on his report. A misdemeanor possibly as throwing a punch is an assault.

Like I said bohemian at the least for you to understand. Your slant against my post is fine and even witty sometimes but your lack of understanding a weave of logic in several posts is downright comical. Doing a long diatribe would be completely boring and stringing the readers along with a small step approach is more interesting as the support is agreed to one step at a time.

Obvious financial damages are not the only requirement and the players' future job prospects in playing pro-ball and other job opportunities count.

Let's not do the Mut and Jeff thing and agree to disagree as I am only posting another view that is beneficial to our cause and actually does elucidates the culpable institutions that need to change and not the players. Once the measures are put into effect then they can start punishing players but putting them in situational confrontations that they are fully aware of beforehand and then finding the reaction as un-sportsmanship is like the syphilis experiments the government did on our citizens. ( Martin Luther King ingredient)

Posted on: 1/15 3:12 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Class Action lawsuit time against the Big12 and maybe Texas Tech. Some lawyer will pick this no-brainer up and carry it to justice.

For a college board, there is a lack of clarity in interpreting the facts. Groupthink runs amuck here with little understanding of how to view the situation from a clear-headed angle. Maybe brain fog from a bad diet or just lack of thought, not sure but I would relish a post that is not the usual lame blah blah blah and actually take a perspective of original thought.

Posted on: 1/15 1:55 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Let's get a press release for the newspapers so the public can be informed of our side of the facts as the powers do not want to be held accountable for its failures.

Posted on: 1/15 1:29 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Repeated violations of court-storming rules warrant a sanction against Texas Tech. They also were aware of the potential and now will benefit by having a WV player punished due to their total disregard of the visiting players' safety. I am tired of excusability in known repeated offenses and Texas Tech needs to take a big hit for its disregard for the rules. Total contempt of the system should be dealt with sternly.

Harris's reaction is instinctual and automatic. The fight or flight response is built into our brains from our caveman ancestors and is not intelligent but reactive. Had he been warned ahead of time to expect such a situation then yes he is culpable, but no warning was given to the visitors and the Big12 knew such reactions were not uncommon and failed to study the facts with any thought of preventing such behavior.

Yes, if Harris was not reactive and had other stimuli to make a judgment but his senses were overloaded in an emotional time along with the stresses of the loss and an assault from his backside his reaction is quite normal and would not have been warranted of any measure that would change his thinking as he did not have time to think but only react to a hostile attack. Big12 officials knew of these situations from past experiences and allow its players to be subject to such situations and bear the consequences. Not fair in the least. Fine the Big12 and Texas Tech for their mindless behavior in order that they may change future behavior and take corrective measures in the future.

Posted on: 1/15 1:20 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Big12's contributory negligence in not institutionalizing measures to prevent such known incidents from occurring, not taking preventative measures in security in potential situations and not thinking of its player's safety and reactions to such violations is a reflection of poor management. No consequences should befall Harris as the blame is entirely on the Big12 for ignoring its responsibility and taking little interest in this matter until the powderkeg explodes.

Posted on: 1/15 1:01 pm
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Re: Public Relations
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Big 12 could face a lawsuit for not protecting its players! Where is the follow up to a recognized threat to players safety? The Big 12 will get sued for dragging its feet and Harris and any other player that experienced the threat may file against them. How can we allow the Big12 to go unpunished for ignoring the consequences of lack of protection?

Why the Big12 failed to protect its players by starting a fine system is beyond my comprehension. While other conferences have taken prudent steps in an effort to discourage violations, the Big12 allows schools to break its rules with no consequences. Now the lawyers will jump in and teach the Big12 a lesson in ignorance. No argument was presented in not formulating a fine schedule as a deterrent to violating the court rush rule. Unfortunately, the leaders of the Big12 are going to become aware of its failure by the lawsuits that will follow this incident.

The players were probably not given a class on court rush violations and were not familiarized in how to behave. The fine money could have been used partially to fund such classes in order to prevent future incidents. Contributory negligence is shown clearly and is most likely to be established in court. Additionally, security needs to be beefed up in high profile games. You can not have your cake and eat it too without getting fat and lazy. The Big12's leaders need to go on a diet.

Posted on: 1/15 12:50 pm
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Re: WVU vs TEXAS TECH Game Thread
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Another day for us

Posted on: 1/13 4:21 pm
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Re: WVU vs TEXAS TECH Game Thread
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Esa is rusty

Posted on: 1/13 4:18 pm
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Re: WVU vs TEXAS TECH Game Thread
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We need a TO after a quick score

Posted on: 1/13 4:17 pm
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Re: WVU vs TEXAS TECH Game Thread
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Charity stripe is soo good for TT

Posted on: 1/13 4:10 pm
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Re: WVU vs TEXAS TECH Game Thread
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Experience is not a factor today. They are playing very tough

Posted on: 1/13 4:09 pm
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