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Re: OU Gamethread
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Those last 2 buckets were huge - this team has been missing that. Somebody to step up and score at key points.

Posted on: 2/5 11:01 pm
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Re: OU Gamethread
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Neither team has scored for the last 4:15.

That's insane!

Posted on: 2/5 10:19 pm
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Re: OU Gamethread
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Who are these guys in the dark uniforms? I thought it was us but these guys are hitting shots and moving the ball around in the half-court offense better.

Up by 10 at halftime...

Posted on: 2/5 9:58 pm
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Re: Why can't we finish?
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I also think we learned a little about not having enough length to run the 1-3-1. Dax was consistently too slow to rotate over and Knox kept burying wide open 3's from his side of the court. They later hit one or two from the other side but mainly it was attacking Dax's side. He's short and doesn't have enough length to cover that much ground and get an arm up into the eyes of the shooter.

Posted on: 1/28 5:40 pm
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Re: Why can't we finish?
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Are we still sitting on a 5 seed for the NCAA Tourney? Does Kentucky now have a signature win to get into the Tourney? Are we still a work in progress? Is Kentucky?

I think Bob and John got pretty much what they wanted from last night. Bob would've liked the win but he's not devastated that his good friend got a much needed big win to get his team on track. Bob called off the press for the entire second half to give them a legitimate chance to climb back and for us to work on our half court offense - we've got to get better at that to win tourney games.

Posted on: 1/28 5:36 pm
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Re: The Blue Bloods from the Bluegrass state
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I think we are still over-reacting a little. My take is that Huggins isn't in love with being ranked too high too early. Traditionally, he has used the season to teach and to grow and to get them where he wants them come tournament time. He and Calipari are good friends and Kentucky needed this win A LOT worse than us. Huggins didn't intentionally lose the game by any stretch...but he did call off the dogs and basically abandoned our press in the second half. Why?

Cutting a friend a break and giving him the opportunity to climb back into the game - not letting them - just giving them a decent shot.

Well, they did it. Now, Calipari got the win he badly needed and our team has learned even more about protecting a lead against teams that have talent. Not a horrible end result eventhough we fans are thinking the sky is falling.

I really think Bob Huggins puts only so much stock in season record and looks more at what his team is doing day in/day out and coaches/teaches from there. If Teddy Allen did run his mouth to coaches then I think Huggins handled it completely right. Sit him down some, bring him back slowly and deflect all of the "inquiring minds" questions.

Posted on: 1/28 5:26 pm
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Re: The Blue Bloods from the Bluegrass state
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Our half court offense is dreadful...and it only gets worse as we go deep on the bench. Anybody notice Routt take a 10 second break (uncovered) in the corner and never moved to the bucket until Carter screamed at him mid-dribble?

That summarizes our problems in the half court offense. All standing, no motion. It's like they don't know where to go when.

Posted on: 1/27 9:24 pm
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Re: The Blue Bloods from the Bluegrass state
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apizzle wrote:
All I have to say is **** Kentucky, and suck it Demarcus Cousins and John Wall.



Sources: Cousins tears Achilles, out for season

Scary. Please don't ever get pissed at me...

Posted on: 1/26 11:54 pm
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Re: HORNY TOAD GAMEDAY THREAD!!
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This is disgusting. We are in a horrible stretch...we're motionless and lethargic...and they are showboating. I'm not there and I want to punch TCU guys in the face.

Paybacks are a bitch. Hopefully.

Posted on: 1/22 10:32 pm
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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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This^
Jevon may force too many shots but I see him moving without the ball MUCH more than ANYONE else. Too much standing. And that means when Jevon is out front with the ball (often) there are 4 statues in front of him.

Posted on: 1/16 7:09 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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Phil's zen is an artform. I think Huggs is "old school" in this regard (for better or worse) in that he gives them enough rope to hang themselves and let's them learn from their screw-ups sometimes. This is like 4 seasons in a row we've got on a roll and then crashed and burned mid-season. Let's hope he can bring them back to where he wants them as in seasons past.

Posted on: 1/16 7:04 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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I agree with both of those points wvudee. Huggs does too but he put it down to toughness. He said we'd rather shoot over people than to take it inside at them. I think our guys are plenty tough but he's making a point about what he wants more of. I/he also agrees about the fouling although we do more complaining about the refs and he comes at them about "stupid" fouls. Carter's hand on the Kansas shooters back jumps to mind. The hand did nothing, it shouldn't have been called but it was...remove the hand on future shots.

Posted on: 1/16 6:58 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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I just don't understand why Bender plays over Logan. The kid from Cameron is a much better athlete. Every know and then the staff sees it, but next game he's right back in there.



I wonder the same thing sometimes as well but if it comes down to a "smell test" of how awkward and unathletic a guy appears then Nathan Adrian and Deniz would've never have seen the court...give it time.

Posted on: 1/16 1:55 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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Bob Huggins career would be HOF worthy based just on what he did at Cinncinati...don't forget that. Then consider what he's done here and then say "average at best". That's laughable.

Sorry to disagree with some of you but some of your opinions don't mean a thing. Did anyone see what Bill Self was wearing for the game? Self definitely was not laughing about Huggins offense, they are friends and there is a lot of respect between the two. Ditto Calipari. Ditto many of the top coaches in NCAA. Their informed opinions mean a lot more than our blind bitching about a bad loss.

I think it is accurate that Huggin's teams play tight at times trying not to screw up but many of you fail to notice the huge improvement and the player development that happens under Huggins and just credit it towards "how good a player is". He wants his players to play the game - not even "the right way"...he wants "his right way" and they do play tight sometimes - but they become MUCH better.

Teddy Allen could be very special but picture a 19 year old kid coming off the bench and scoring 20 for a team that has a 14 game win streak, ranked #2 in the nation. Yep, that's a lot going on in a 19 year old's head and some attitude adjustment could be in order. I know I didn't like what I saw on the bench during the Kansas game. Teddy appeared to be pouting and disinterested - which is understandable given circumstances. Jevon's post-game showed how demoralized he currently is - but they will get better by Tourney time.

Talk about Blue Chippers while you forget (or just are ignorant of) Kenyon Martin, Nick Van Exel, Michael Beasley, Devin Ebanks, etc. Look at the people who have risen as assistants under Huggins and are now top coaches in the game today and think that Huggins isn't respected. Please get serious and talk about real problems instead of imagined ones because you don't like his methods. He is a proven winner - you guys aren't. I think we'll be fine come Big 12 tourney time even if we are a #4 seed. I think we'll be fine come NCAA Tourney time even if it is as a 5 seed.

Posted on: 1/16 1:45 pm
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Re: KANSAS GAMEDAY NON COURTSTORMING THREAD!
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Wow. we're back to "the sky is falling" on here. Conference games are important and no, Huggins does not try to lose. But he's been doing this a LONG time. He's been very successful at this for a LONG time. How many of you are on here bitching when we take a team with marginal skill and make the Sweet 16 or Elite 8? Somebody please make another ignorant comment about how average Huggins is...learn to read and read up on him, please. He is one of the best in the game today.

Which brings me back to...he keeps things in perspective. This team has to grow together and get on board with what we need to do - yes, decided upon by him...that's the way he rolls. How many times have we seen his teams fall down in the middle of the season when they get bigger than their britches and stop accepting coaching? He let's them learn about "doing things their way" - and then he brings them back...only better than before. It's a long season and this young team has lots of growing to do. It would be different if we had 5 one and done players - he could just let them go. That's not us.

For those of you with a man-crush for Teddy Allen...which one of you knows the first thing about this guy? Is he on time for practice? Does he work on his defensive or rebounding skills? Is he a cancer in the locker room? Not a single one of you knows squat. If he is that much of a persona that he'll just transfer for sitting 2 games - maybe he should go. Perhaps our HOF Coach has a few insights that all you who are pissing and moaning don't know about. Perhaps you guys believe what you hear on TV...just like Esa's suspension being due to "not qualifying for academic reasons" and the on court reporter asking him how his grades are...he came back hot on a piss test. It was reported on here first - months ago.

Some of you should go blow Teddy Allen and stop him from leaving and while you are at it, give John Beilein a reach around so maybe he'll come back. Don't get me wrong, Teddy Allen could be really good and John Beilein is an exceptional coach in his own right but some of you should read what you type. A couple of you should go back and review your posts...if you've got 34 posts and they are all negative and bitching about our teams - go someplace else for WVU haters.

This loss sucks but our team and coach are the same as they were a week ago when you loved them. If it was as easy as some of you appear to think, everyone would do it.

Posted on: 1/16 4:01 am
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Re: Michigan State's RPI ratings is 22 WV is 12 Why are they #! & we lower
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One thing that was said amidst all the insanity that I want to ask about.

Has Esa been practicing with the team? I thought "no".

This was probably based on Huggins comments about his concerns with Esa coming back... where he said Esa's conditioning won't be near what it needs to be.I would be a lot less concerned about "blending in" if he has been practicing. I just didn't think that was the case.

Posted on: 1/8 3:21 pm
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Re: OFFICIAL WVU VS OU BBALL GAMEDAY THREAD!!!!!
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I agree with a lot of what was said about Young and his whining/complaining to get calls...but he did begin to get the calls and got his points. The kid is VERY quick and is a lights-out shooter. We are gonna be great but I don't look forward to playing OU with that kids in 3 years. Let's hope he buys into the ESPN hype train and is gone after next year.

Posted on: 1/6 9:48 pm
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Re: Dana Holgerson, was he overrated even as Offensive Coordinator?
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Been on this for a decade now. There's been quality Lineman but as a unit it just doesn't gel. Always one guy missing a block and it normally comes on the combo block. A Stanford guy couldn't fix it. Dana needs to hire Garin Justice like today. If he can't fix it then it's FUBR.


I've taken players to his clinics and taught at them while he was HC at Concord. He is an excellent coach, really knows his stuff and really knows how to teach it. They could do a lot worse. Problem is, Joe Wickline came from Texas and is an old friend of Dana's. I'm not sure Coach Justice has the recruiting pipeline that Wickline has. Neither has made that much progress in western PA but at least Wickline does have a toehold in TX. Wickline's hire pushed Ron Crook out and Crook would be considered an upgrade over Justice although, in truth, Justice might be the better coach.

Plus, few fans outside southern WV or old WVU fans will even recognize the name.

You are touching upon one of my line coaching points...5 average blocks beats 4 pancakes and 1 miss EVERY time. Be on the same page, communicate and work together in unison.

Posted on: 1/4 8:35 pm
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Re: Rich Rod Gets Walking Papers
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I'm not a fan of RichRod but the Sexual Harrassment suit sounds fishy. At first it read like the University had stonewalled her accusations but reading further, it said that Arizona was unable to investigate fully since she refused to participate in the investigation and got a lawyer instead.

Sucks for him that the investigation did turn up yet another girlfriend though.

Posted on: 1/3 12:32 am
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Re: Official unofficial Utah Utes game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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DanG wrote:
never liked watching players
on cruise control


I wonder if 2 weeks of practice and seeing how wildly slow, weak and inaccurate Chugs was crushed their enthusiasm. At some point, they had to look around and say, "this is gonna be bad"...and then Crawford decides not to play (couldn't play/wasn't gonna play... it makes no difference) and Cajuste pulls a hammy. I think it was a demoralized team with no "leader" to inspire them. Dana can only do so much to motivate them...and the players aren't blind and stupid. We played a game with no shot in our musket.

Posted on: 12/27 3:08 pm
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