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Re: Trickett back to God-like Status - Violates Saban's daughter at 6
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Good Grief Strohs,

Lighten up Francis

Posted on: 8/28 10:42 am
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Re: Battleship sunk?
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Bs eers lawyers only bill on the half hour there is no such thing as .2 that's automatically rounded to .5

Lol

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Re: Battleship sunk?
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I think the wraps are 2 blue and should have used more black

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Eers how do you think the police should have handled the rioters after the shooting?

Do you think they went in to heavy handed, shouldn't have dressed out in riot gear?

I am curious not poking u just curious

Posted on: 8/26 5:40 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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And before anyone asks, yes I support the law that is on the books in Missouri

This is Missouri's Defense of Justification statute. It gives police officers broad authority to use deadly force in cases when "He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, when he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest" and when the subject "May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay."

It's the same law that was invoked in 2000 after two unarmed men were shot and killed by police at a Berkeley, Missouri, Jack in the Box.

At the time, Ferguson's police chief, Tom Jackson, was deputy commander in Berkeley.

During that investigation, Jackson defended his officers, who claimed the men in the car had started toward the police vehicle in an effort to escape and the officers feared for their lives.

But ​according to The Daily Beast: "Investigators decided that the car occupied by the two men had not in fact begun to move in their direction when the fatal shots were fired. The officers insisted they were in fear for their lives nonetheless, essentially arguing that the car was itself a deadly weapon pointed their way. That was enough for the shooting to be ruled justified under Missouri state law."

Business Insider points out, "If Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson is charged in Brown's death, attorneys could invoke this law to argue that he justifiably believed Brown could have endangered his life."

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/crime-l ... son-officer-darren/ng7tq/

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Great read hookem thanks for posting

Posted on: 8/22 7:34 am
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Officer Birk later testified at an inquest that Williams turned with a “thousand yard stare.” Birk said Williams had a “stern, confrontational look,” and also that he had a “confrontational posture.” Birk demonstrated how Williams turned with the knife showing how the suspect appeared to be in crouch in a pre-attack posture. Birk testified, “I had no reasonable alternative, but to defend myself in that situation.” It is noteworthy that Birk was not one of the officers on the Seattle Police Department issued a TASER.


Officer Birk shot Williams, who died from his wounds. Williams’ family reported that the 50-year-old man was “partly deaf” and may not have heard the commands of the officer.

An internal Seattle Police Department firearms board determined, “The officer did not have probable cause to believe the suspect if not apprehended posed a threat of serious harm to the officer or a threat of physical harm to others.” Additionally the board decided, “The actions of the officer contributed to the need to fire.” The firearms panel was critical of the fact that in the seven seconds between the time Birk exited the car and the shooting, Officer Birk closed to within ten feet of the suspect and failed to identify himself as a police officer. Birk was in full uniform and had parked his squad with his lights on, before approaching on foot.

The firearms board unanimously concluded Officer Ian Birk’s shooting of Williams was “unjustified.”
Birk resigned in February after Chief John Diaz stated in a press conference, “His decision to use deadly force did not conform to department policy.”

The local district attorney chose to not pursue charges against the officer, because he determined the officer acted, “in good faith and without malice.” A Federal Prosecutor continues to investigate

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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You and I will disagree on what we believe is a threatening action

Approaching a cop with a weapon and disobeying verbal commands to drop the weapon is threating imo.

I listened to the tape and that's why I asked if the guy continued to approach the cop since it was off screen

I am assuming the did not charge the officer with anything criminal?

Posted on: 8/21 2:29 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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If you can answer this question I can answer this one did the guy turn around face the officer and walk towards him with the knife in his hand. If the guy turned and faced the officer and continued to move towards him then I am fine with the tatics.

I don't have a problem with u brining up guns if your walking down the street with a gun not holstered waving it around and an officer tells you to drop the weapon you better not give him a reason to make him feel your threatening him.

I would comply put the weapon down and at that point we can have a conversation and sort it out.

It's no different for me when I get pulled over the first thing I do is roll my windows down place both hands open palm out the window leave them there to the officer walks up. I keep my hands out side the car in plain site apologize for not have license out bc I didn't want to be moving around inside the car. I then let the officer know I have a ccw and I am armed notify where my weapon is and offer to exit the vehicle and allow him to disarm and store my weapon until we are done. I have yet to have a cop want me to remove the weapon but they appreciate the offer and understand that I understand the danger in what they do and they can be at more ease with me and typically I get out of the ticket at that point

Posted on: 8/21 1:59 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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I've been around it and grown up with it for 32 years

Posted on: 8/21 1:41 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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You honestly have no clue how these guys are trained and how they conduct business

Posted on: 8/21 1:36 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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What you think the boys in da hood are lining up to join the police force

I am not so sure what's confusing about drop the knife...If it was ruled unjust shooting I will accept they dies not mean I agree with it.

Cops don't just stay in there car bc they might be in danger when they get out. Did the cop know he was a wood crafter or did the officer see a guy walk down the streets playing with a knife and when he went to question him he failed to comply with the officers commands

Posted on: 8/21 1:35 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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I dunt believe there training is broken what's broken is the blatant disregard and lack of respect for the police.

Is after watching the video a couple more times the last 2 were a little late I would agree there

However if your approaching a cop with a deadly weapon be prepared to be met with the same level of deadly force to protect the cops.

It was 12 rounds in 3 seconds with the 2 being late

Posted on: 8/21 1:04 pm
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Oops

Posted on: 8/21 1:02 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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its truly hard to judge distance on the video but seeing how the guy moved to a position directly above the office on the ledge he was probably within 8 feet of the officers when the shots were fired.

He was told to drop his weapon multiply times, was told to take his hand out of his pocket and he failed to comply, he repositioned himself above the officers and at that distance he was within an easy striking distance to injury and or kill the officers.

Cops are not taught to shoot once, and wait they are taught and trained to shoot to eliminate a threat and they are taught rapid fire. In a situation like that I see nothing that would make me think that they used to much force, the guy presented a weapon and did not comply with officer commands to drop the weapon and he started advancing. At that point when the police shoot they shoot to eliminate the threat and that is what the video shows. You can't train cops to only shoot once and wait, your talking about 12 shots in a matter of about 2 seconds or less. As long as the guy is still on his feet they going to continue firing until that threat is no longer in a position to advance.



Their training is broken. The Seattle PD is under a consent decree over excessive use of force and targeting minorities. The worst incident, IMO, of this was the shooting of a 50 year old native American wood carver who was well known in the community. Cops sees him walking across the street early one morning with the same wood carving knife he had used and been seen with for years. He immediately gets out of car which exposes himself to danger, engages with full aggression, and seconds later the guy is shot multiples times and is dead. Stuff like this does NOT need to happen.

It's about a minute in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcxqyp2wOzE


Had the guy complied and put the knife down he would be breathing still.

Are there and camera angles that show if the guy turned and started approaching the officer while holding the knife were the shots rear entry or front entry

Every time a cop gets out of a car the put there life on the line if they see a guy Wilding a knife on a public street they are going to stop and question his intentions

Posted on: 8/21 12:59 pm
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imo the only thing that has changed over the last century is the public is more aware of how situations like this play out due to advances in technology cell phone cameras etc... the training cops receive in live shooter situations is pretty much the same as it always has been. IF you pose a threat to there life deadly force will be used and they aint going to shoot you in the leg or arm they go center mass and fire until your on the ground.

Best advice is don't approach a cop with a weapon drawn and don't ignore there verbal commands to drop the weapon and show them your hands

My guess is you could almost rule this suicide by cop.

Posted on: 8/21 12:33 pm
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its truly hard to judge distance on the video but seeing how the guy moved to a position directly above the office on the ledge he was probably within 8 feet of the officers when the shots were fired.

He was told to drop his weapon multiply times, was told to take his hand out of his pocket and he failed to comply, he repositioned himself above the officers and at that distance he was within an easy striking distance to injury and or kill the officers.

Cops are not taught to shoot once, and wait they are taught and trained to shoot to eliminate a threat and they are taught rapid fire. In a situation like that I see nothing that would make me think that they used to much force, the guy presented a weapon and did not comply with officer commands to drop the weapon and he started advancing. At that point when the police shoot they shoot to eliminate the threat and that is what the video shows. You can't train cops to only shoot once and wait, your talking about 12 shots in a matter of about 2 seconds or less. As long as the guy is still on his feet they going to continue firing until that threat is no longer in a position to advance.


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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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More than enough info to support my info from yesterday


Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

Also glad to see mo governor has made his mind up that wilson should be prosecuted with his statements lady night but shame on me for thinking people dont have preconceived notions that are doing the investigation

Posted on: 8/20 1:01 pm
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Stan I support him because of my family ties to the leo community it's a brotherhood to the officers as well as there family

I know the attitude of the type of people like Mike Brown and I trust my sources as much as u trust your liberal rag sources supporting your agenda

Posted on: 8/20 12:51 pm
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