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Re: Marcellus Shale
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Its not an unsafe practice but I know that my opinions are valued by the critics as much as I value the critics opinions of the industry and fracking.

Its an industry that keeps my lights on, pays for my lifestyle, and one that I fully support.

You can not contaminate a drinking water well that is 1000 feet in depth when your drill another 3 to 4,000 vertical feet below that well and frack. Can you have a leak in a casing as you go vertical sure, can you have a spill on the surface sure. The level of environmental regulations and guidelines are extremely tight. With all of that stuff you will still occasionally have spills etc its part of doing business however that's typically the exception not the norm. I don't believe that is not going to stop the practice nor should it stop gas exploration.

There's enough natural gas resources in the Appalachian Basin that would supply the US for the next 100 years and that's just in KY, PA, OH, and WV.

It's similar to all the folks that go mining is bad, strip mines are ugly etc, most of those people have never stepped foot on an active mine let along a reclaimed mine that has tons of wildlife and vegetation and looks beautiful fully restored.

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Re: Marcellus Shale
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I understand what your saying MD.

You could say if the Exxon Valdez didn't sail in 1989 it wouldn't have spilled or no fire on BP deep well in the Gulf no spill.

There are risk associated to drilling as there is to anything else. I would say it's extremely rare though to contaminate drinking water from deep horizontal well. I still believe the next big boom for wv ky ohio pa is going to be natural gas and that will sustain these states that have seen coal die hopefully foe the foreseeable future

Fracking is not a new technology fracking can be traced back to the civil war Era.

There still seems to be a lot of misunderstanding with a lot of people about fracking and the process and the depths compared to drinking water wells etc


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Re: Marcellus Shale
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....Post articles about aquifers actually being contaminated directly from the directional drilling/hydraulic fracturing process. I'd like to see those because I can't find any.



http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/05 ... nia-water-well-study-says



Toxic fluids used in drilling and hydraulic fracturing likely escaped an unlined borehole and migrated thousands of feet into a residential drinking-water supply in Pennsylvania, according to a study published Monday.

At least three water wells in Bradford County, located in the heart of the Marcellus Shale drilling boom, were found to be contaminated with dangerous levels of methane and other substances in 2010. The incident was one of several involving Chesapeake Energy that prompted state environmental regulators to levy a record $1 million fine against the driller in May 2011.

Penn State University researchers detected in one of the water wells a minute amount of a chemical compound often found in drilling and fracking fluids, according to the study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The compound, 2-BE, has a wide variety of industrial and household uses, and is commonly found in paint, cosmetics and cleaners, but the authors identified gas drilling as the most probable source.






Not disputing that a drinking water source was tainted however the water source was not tainted by fracking itself. It was tainted from chemical spill located at or near the surface.

Its extremely hard and I would say impossible to taint a drinking water source from the fracking itself. Fracking is done at depths that are typical 4 to 5000 feet below the surface. A deep drinking well is 500 to a 1000 feet, the water contamination came from a spill near the surface not from the actual fracking a mile underground.

Researchers did not implicate the fracking technique itself. Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, involves the high-pressure injection of millions of gallons of water, along with sand and chemical additives, deep underground to break apart shale rock and free the gas trapped inside it. The industry and many federal and state officials say fracking is safe when done properly, but environmental groups contend the risk of contamination is too great. The Marcellus Shale Coalition said the researchers did not prove that gas drilling put 2-BE in the water well. The trade group also said the industry is getting better at protecting water supplies.

"It's absolutely critical to acknowledge that important technological advancements have been and continue to be made, along with the fact that Pennsylvania's regulations were dramatically strengthened over the past several years ... aimed at protecting groundwater, which is a top industry priority," Travis Windle, a spokesman, said in a statement.

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Re: Ollie
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Mullens was the front runner last year when Luck was up for Texas job.

I love Luck and hate to see him leave however it was never his intention to be here long term and he has done a lot of great things and has a great legacy and has left us in a way better place.

Mullens would be a homerun hire, Morgantown Native, undergrad and masters from WVU and he has been the head man at Oregon and they seem to be doing well lol.

Also I would not mind seeing us take Whit Babcock from the chokies after one year (I am sure all of the rich lovers would have to change there pants because of his connections to that ass clown)

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Re: Ferguson
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Cops aren't trained to take a step away. They give you a verbal command and it's typically in your best interest to comply.

IMO Ferguson and NYC the grand jury did there jobs and got it right.


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Re: Ferguson
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..Here is an idea.....when you get shot the first time, take the hint and realize it isn't in your best interest to continue...



True, but how do you know he continued? I don't think that has been established as fact. In fact, some testimony said he was surrendering.


First off there are no such things as a kill shot, law enforcement as well as anyone who goes through a concealed carry class is taught that you never shoot to kill. If you determine that deadly force is the only option and your in that much of a threat to your life you train to shoot center mass of the most vital organ present to eliminate and stop the threat that is being posed to you. If you shooting to injury then your not shooting to eliminate a threat and your can not justify the use of deadly force.

From Officer Wilson's Testimony to the Grand Jury
Wilson said Brown kept running through shots

Wilson testified he shot at Brown on the street when Brown turned on him.

"As he is coming towards me, I tell, keep telling him to get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot a series of shots. I don't know how many I shot, I just know I shot it," he said.

"I know I missed a couple, I don't know how many, but I know I hit him at least once because I saw his body kind of jerk," he said.

Wilson testified that Brown did not slow down.

"At this point I start backpedaling and again, I tell him get on the ground, get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot another round of shots," he said.

"Again, I don't recall how many him every time. I know at least once because he flinched again. At this point it looked like he was almost bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him.

"And the face that he had was looking straight through me, like I wasn't even there, I wasn't even anything in his way."

He told the jurors he thought Brown was going to tackle him.

"Just coming straight at me like he was going to run right through me. And when he gets about that 8 to 10 feet away, I look down, I remember looking at my sites and firing, all I see is his head and that's what I shot.

"I don't know how many, I know at least once because I saw the last one go into him. And then when it went into him, the demeanor on his face went blank, the aggression was gone, it was gone, I mean, I knew he stopped, the threat was stopped.

"When he fell, he fell on his face."

Wilson said Brown reached under his shirt

Brown put his hand under his shirt into his waistband when he ran at Wilson, Wilson told the grand jury.

"He turns, and when he looked at me, he made like a grunting, like aggravated sound and he starts, he turns and he's coming back towards me," Wilson said.

"His first step is coming towards me, he kind of does like a stutter step to start running. When he does that, his left hand goes in a fist and goes to his side, his right one goes under his shirt in his waistband and he starts running at me."

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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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More room for wind sprints would be my guess stan

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Re: Ray Rice gets canned
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And once again Mike Vick pulled more time in Jail than ray did for knocking out a woman

Continues to show that we have our priorities backwards

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Re: Ray Rice gets canned
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This is the type of punishment ray ray should have gotten the first time.

There was no self defense and I am sorry but as a man that argument is hard to use anyway. You can defend your self and not hit your woman in the process. There is no excuse for that hopefully he never puts another pair of cleats on in the NFL

This should cost Goodell his job he completely botched this. No way yesterday was the first time he saw that video he arrogantly had to think the public wouldn't see it and it will blow over.


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Re: Trickett back to God-like Status - Violates Saban's daughter at 6
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Good Grief Strohs,

Lighten up Francis

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Re: Battleship sunk?
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Bs eers lawyers only bill on the half hour there is no such thing as .2 that's automatically rounded to .5

Lol

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Re: Battleship sunk?
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I think the wraps are 2 blue and should have used more black

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Eers how do you think the police should have handled the rioters after the shooting?

Do you think they went in to heavy handed, shouldn't have dressed out in riot gear?

I am curious not poking u just curious

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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And before anyone asks, yes I support the law that is on the books in Missouri

This is Missouri's Defense of Justification statute. It gives police officers broad authority to use deadly force in cases when "He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, when he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest" and when the subject "May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay."

It's the same law that was invoked in 2000 after two unarmed men were shot and killed by police at a Berkeley, Missouri, Jack in the Box.

At the time, Ferguson's police chief, Tom Jackson, was deputy commander in Berkeley.

During that investigation, Jackson defended his officers, who claimed the men in the car had started toward the police vehicle in an effort to escape and the officers feared for their lives.

But ​according to The Daily Beast: "Investigators decided that the car occupied by the two men had not in fact begun to move in their direction when the fatal shots were fired. The officers insisted they were in fear for their lives nonetheless, essentially arguing that the car was itself a deadly weapon pointed their way. That was enough for the shooting to be ruled justified under Missouri state law."

Business Insider points out, "If Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson is charged in Brown's death, attorneys could invoke this law to argue that he justifiably believed Brown could have endangered his life."

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/crime-l ... son-officer-darren/ng7tq/

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Great read hookem thanks for posting

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Officer Birk later testified at an inquest that Williams turned with a “thousand yard stare.” Birk said Williams had a “stern, confrontational look,” and also that he had a “confrontational posture.” Birk demonstrated how Williams turned with the knife showing how the suspect appeared to be in crouch in a pre-attack posture. Birk testified, “I had no reasonable alternative, but to defend myself in that situation.” It is noteworthy that Birk was not one of the officers on the Seattle Police Department issued a TASER.


Officer Birk shot Williams, who died from his wounds. Williams’ family reported that the 50-year-old man was “partly deaf” and may not have heard the commands of the officer.

An internal Seattle Police Department firearms board determined, “The officer did not have probable cause to believe the suspect if not apprehended posed a threat of serious harm to the officer or a threat of physical harm to others.” Additionally the board decided, “The actions of the officer contributed to the need to fire.” The firearms panel was critical of the fact that in the seven seconds between the time Birk exited the car and the shooting, Officer Birk closed to within ten feet of the suspect and failed to identify himself as a police officer. Birk was in full uniform and had parked his squad with his lights on, before approaching on foot.

The firearms board unanimously concluded Officer Ian Birk’s shooting of Williams was “unjustified.”
Birk resigned in February after Chief John Diaz stated in a press conference, “His decision to use deadly force did not conform to department policy.”

The local district attorney chose to not pursue charges against the officer, because he determined the officer acted, “in good faith and without malice.” A Federal Prosecutor continues to investigate

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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You and I will disagree on what we believe is a threatening action

Approaching a cop with a weapon and disobeying verbal commands to drop the weapon is threating imo.

I listened to the tape and that's why I asked if the guy continued to approach the cop since it was off screen

I am assuming the did not charge the officer with anything criminal?

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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If you can answer this question I can answer this one did the guy turn around face the officer and walk towards him with the knife in his hand. If the guy turned and faced the officer and continued to move towards him then I am fine with the tatics.

I don't have a problem with u brining up guns if your walking down the street with a gun not holstered waving it around and an officer tells you to drop the weapon you better not give him a reason to make him feel your threatening him.

I would comply put the weapon down and at that point we can have a conversation and sort it out.

It's no different for me when I get pulled over the first thing I do is roll my windows down place both hands open palm out the window leave them there to the officer walks up. I keep my hands out side the car in plain site apologize for not have license out bc I didn't want to be moving around inside the car. I then let the officer know I have a ccw and I am armed notify where my weapon is and offer to exit the vehicle and allow him to disarm and store my weapon until we are done. I have yet to have a cop want me to remove the weapon but they appreciate the offer and understand that I understand the danger in what they do and they can be at more ease with me and typically I get out of the ticket at that point

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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I've been around it and grown up with it for 32 years

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