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Re: War on the Police
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Hope you understood A-man that my husband used to have a lot of speeding tickets. He reformed after the umbrella policy cost went up. I respect your feelings for the police...especially since you have lived a life knowing what a dangerous job it can be.


It's all good now problem at all.

To answer your question about why people need semi automatic weapons that I forgot to answer:

My first reason is I am a believer that 2nd admen truly means shall not be infringed.

Now the other reason is that I don't believe in being outgunned by criminals. If you could ban all semi auto weapons then only criminals will have them. I would also question if you ban that are you going to then ban speed loaders for revolvers so I couldn't reload so fast.

Another reason I believe in semi auto is its easier for someone like my wife to defend herself. All she has to do is get on the safe grab a pistol and squeeze as fast as she can. She does not have a long trigger pull to worry about with a revolver or single shot gun.

There was a guy standing on his roof in the last riots protecting his business from looters his weapon of choice was an ar and it was very practical for him.

Also if you look up California bank shoot out you can see what's it like to be outgunned by criminals.

Hope that helps some, again I appreciate the conversation

Posted on: 7/18 12:29 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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Has nothing to do with fear.

Has everything to do with understanding the most on edge and dangerous position for cops are traffic stops.

I've yet to have one ask to secure my firearm they appreciate the offer and I've yet received a ticket doing it that way too

I do it in more of attempt to get out of a speeding ticket in all honesty

Posted on: 7/16 3:15 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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Mrs,mountains

When you say assault rifles are you specifically talking about AR15s or all semi automatic handguns and rifles?

Not not picking just trying to understand the only difference between an AR and a Glock 45 pistol is the magazine capacity and the round size. The shooting mechanics and function of the gun are exactly the same and you can buy the same accessories for pistols that you can put on your AR. I am curious to understand if the assault weapons ban is solely based on things that look scary or include anything besides revolvers and black powder rifles.

As far as the no fly no buy list goes I am fine with deny the purchase of a firearm if and only if there is due process. If your an the list the government has 72 hours to charge and convict you of a felony to strip your rights away.

Folks like me would also argue that when the bill of rights was written the only source of media was the pens and paper so the first admin didn't intend to cover other sources of media if that is the argument being applied to the 2nd. There is no doubt I am an absoultelish when it comes to 2nd admin, I don't believe in any format of gun control other than hit what your aiming at and don't aim at nothing you don't tend to destroy. I would also say that without the 2nd good look keeping the rest.

It's refreshing to have a civil conversation with someone on this issue thanks

Posted on: 7/14 6:24 am
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Re: War on the Police
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What sticks out about Mac's post is he entered a restaurant without being a paying customer and believes it's his God given right to use a bathroom he neither owns or has been given permission to use by the owner. It's this same attitude of entitlement that has created a lot of the problems we are seeing across this country. I would bet this restaurant is constantly dealing with drunks coming in to use the bathroom and disrupting business and grew tired of it. I think you got a good lesson in living as a decent human being.


I agree with you, entitlement is clearly a problem in today's world, but narrow-mindedness is a much much bigger one.

For instance, you know absolutely nothing about the situation I described, aside from my summary. Yet, here you are declaring I'm entitled, I was drunk, and that this restaurant is constantly dealing with this issue.

This narrow-mindedness is also the reason I brought up banning guns to A-Man in my previous post. I know he's not going to give them up, the point is, he doesn't care about the issue of police in this country, that they're killing people at a ridiculous rate, because it doesn't effect him. Have the cops come calling for HIS guns though, and **** the police! He's ready for a war, because HIS rights are being violated.

If you want to give a good lesson in being a decent human being, I'd start with not being so ignorant and judgmental to other people's life experiences.









What effects me is seeing cops murdered and total lack of respect for what they do by the masses and mainly by the communities that have such an issue with them.

I can tell you it personally effects me seeing this nonsense in the news I've been a son for 34 years to a father that puts a badge on everyday and a grandfather who was also a cop. I have lived with the reality that everyday could be my dad's last day. So don't tell me these issues don't effect me, they effect me on a completely different side and it's very personal. I've walked in there shoes and I know there sacrifice.

Posted on: 7/13 10:02 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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Mac you also assume cops are going to line up and knock on doors to take guns if that ever happended.

It worked well a couple years ago when gun owners refused to register there guns after sandy hook in Connecticut

Also you had a plethora of sheriff's refuse to enforce gun laws they found unconstitutional

Posted on: 7/13 9:56 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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Nope not turning them in...but I don't plan on drawing attention to myself either.

Mrs.mountains I am curious to what tweaks you would like to see, would you be willing to tweak the 1st admin too??

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Re: War on the Police
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At the end of the day Mac every expletive you gave was an example of breaking the law.

Posted on: 7/13 5:49 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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all good dell no worries

Posted on: 7/12 12:23 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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Juvi

You ever watched the 1997 Hollywood Shoot out

If your a cop in that situation which picture would you like to be dressed in

https://youtu.be/G9SJi7G_QY0

I take issue with people who've never put the uniform on or never worked a shift or never had friends or family do it try to determine the appropriate gear cops need to do there job.

If we started dressing the real issues at hand with our youth and that's the total lack of respect for those in authority we could start to see some of this reduced.

I still like the Dallas police Chief statement from today

Become a part of the solution,” Brown said during a Monday news conference. “We’re hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. And we’ll put you in your neighborhood, and we’ll help you resolve some of the problems you’re protesting about.”

Posted on: 7/11 9:56 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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But A-Man .. juvi has it ALL figured out. No need to wait for the actual facts.


Real intelligent retort, is that all you got? Nowhere did I say I had it all figured out. In fact I don't think anyone has anything figured out, if we did maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

And A-man is probably correct that after it's all said and done the thin blue line will prevail and he will be found justified in his used of force. And that's the problem. Cops investigating cops, gee I wonder why they are always justified. The whole damn system is broken.

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You ever been on an entry team or worked crowd control in a riot situation, or had a love oned on them. I have and i would to have them dressed out in full riot gear. Yout picture is a poor poor strawman imo. Yeah baltimore those cops were tried in a jury of all cops i guess, furgeson was investigated by obama racist doj and was found to be justified.

What happened in minnosta is text book training if it plays out way i think it really did. You pull someone over who fits description of armed robbery suspect and he tells you that he has gun and permitt and you keep telling him not to move his hands and he fails to comply are you giving him benifut of doubtbif you do your going to take a bullet one day

If thats not how it played out then charge the cop

I am a ccw holder, when i get pulled over i drop my hands out the window take my sunglasses off and offer to exit vehicle and allow officer to disarm me until we are done

Anyone that wants to judge these cops walk a night in there shoes and go do a ride along your eyes may get opened

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Posted on: 7/11 12:18 pm
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Re: War on the Police
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If a cop tells you to keep your hands where he can see them and to stop reaching towards your pockets and you fail to comply there training kicks in and your likely to be shot. And that is and will always be a justified use of force, the only thing that could have been done different in minnosta is the officer telling him I told you to keep your hands where I can see thrm, if you don't stop moving your hands I am going to shoot you. But he does not need to give that warning, he told him to keep his hands where he could see them and it looks like the guy didn't comply. It's also been reported that the reason for the stop was the guy fit the description of an armed robbery suspect and the broken tail light was the justification of the stop to see if it was the right suspect. However that along with the fact that the cop was not white but either Asian or Hispanic seems to keep being left out of mainstream media

As far as a war on cops, yeah there is a war on cops look at the black lives matter bs, "what do we want dead cops, when do we want them now"

Give me a break, these guys have split seconds to make a decision that could cost them there life. I have a feeling minnosta just like Ferguson, Baltimore etc is going to come out after the investigation that it was justified. All we have seen is a video of the gf after the individual was shot.

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Re: Yet another Islamic terrorist attack on American soil post-mortem analysis
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Obama's failed security policies dating all the way back to 2011 when we pulled troops out of Iraq has done nothing but let this group grow and rise. We can't vet folks that show up on a list of expected terrorist in this country but we are letting them flock in to the country by the thousands as refuges and we can somehow make sure we are only taking the "good guys". Of course when you have muslim loving sympathizer for president what do you expect I guess.

Was this guy radicalized over there or here, it does not matter, at the end of the day this guy was a radical Islamic terrorist.

The only thing the Obama administration has been good at is pimping the tragedy of dead Americans to try and push more failed policy's in the name of gun control under the name of "public safety and common sense"

All of the gun control laws on the books did not keep this guy from carrying out this attack, so now we are going to want to try and ban more, give me a break.

My constitutional rights do trump your dead, they always will.

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Re: Yet another Islamic terrorist attack on American soil post-mortem analysis
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this guy was a poster boy for every useless gun control law the liberals have tried to shove down our throats.

I am all for preventing someone from buying a gun if they are on a terror watch list and have been convicted of a felony and lost that constitutional right.

I am not in favor of getting put on a list and losing a right if you do not have enough evidence to charge them and convict them with a felony.

Call this guy what he was an Radical Islamic Terrorist, news flash they HATE US. Look no further than France, that is a country that has banned everything and yet these radicals still go and have mass shootings there and have used true fully automatic weapons to carry out there attacks.

You don't ban your way to safety, its failed logic and it comes from a president who does not have a plan and used to call this a JV terrorist organization. That JV group has been kicking our ass, its hard to beat an enemy when the leader of the free world wont even acknowledge who exactly that enemy is.

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Re: Yet another Islamic terrorist attack on American soil post-mortem analysis
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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has proposed $15.3 trillion in tax increases, according to a new report, and would raise rates on virtually everyone, including the politically all-important middle class.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03 ... ases-220267#ixzz45XxlaCJ5
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03 ... ders-tax-increases-220267

Lets forget about the tax impact on individuals and look at the amount of debt this guy would be adding if he could get his plan approved and we could live in his awesome socialist utopia he thinks that is so great.

A recent analysis of Sanders’ tax proposals by the joint Tax Policy Center of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution, concluded that Sanders plan would raise $15.3 trillion over the coming decade. The Vermont senator who is campaigning largely on the issues of income inequality and the corruption and excesses of Wall Street, would spread the pain of higher taxes across the board, but with the wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans being hit with an average increase of more than $3 million in 2017.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04 ... ould-Add-15-Trillion-Debt

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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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I am sorry I stand corrected, you get maxed out at little over half of what you make in income tax if your making 10 million or more and 48 if your 2-10.

I don't make 2 million a year but I don't believe in raising taxes on those that do.

I also don't believe in footing the bill for people to get a free education and paying for someone else's student loans.

Its amazing that the dems have a candidate that actually make Hillary look like an all star candidate.

I have guys that work under me that are educated and there views are right in line with the girl in the video that I put up. Just put the burden on the 1% and let them pay for it. I would say they represent the Bernie motto pretty well.

Posted on: 4/11 2:07 pm
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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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Anyone who votes for Trump is dumber than a rock. The guy has all the substance of an infomercial.


And i would say the same for those that vote for sanders.

Anyone who honestly believes tax rate at 70% is the right direction has truley lost touch with real world



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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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This sums up the lack of reality of just about every Sanders supporter out there


https://youtu.be/P3LyZ8hyVZM

Free everything

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Re: NC passes bill blocking LGBT protections
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no issue with this bill, its pretty damn simple whatever you have hanging or not hanging between legs determines what bathroom or shower you go into.

If your a "man" and feel like you want to use the woman's room fine, cut it off and make that commitment and go for it. But if you have a d#$k hanging between your legs you use the men's room simple as that.

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