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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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More than enough info to support my info from yesterday


Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

Also glad to see mo governor has made his mind up that wilson should be prosecuted with his statements lady night but shame on me for thinking people dont have preconceived notions that are doing the investigation

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Stan I support him because of my family ties to the leo community it's a brotherhood to the officers as well as there family

I know the attitude of the type of people like Mike Brown and I trust my sources as much as u trust your liberal rag sources supporting your agenda

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Nope like most links u post stan I didn't read that one either.

But i am sure Mr Davis was a perfect choir boy and acted extremely civil while being arrested and gave the cops no reason to have to restrain him and just let the legal system work itself out

I supported the cops in Rodney king and I support officer Wilson as well as the Ferguson PD

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Not concerned more less pointing out the double standard and the cherry picking that continues to go on with this doj and the president

If everything happened the exact same way this has happened and mike Brown was a 6'4 white guy with 2 holes in his head there would be no riots and no doj investigation

The simple fact that he is black suddenly changes everything. The black community does a great job at blaming either the white man or the police for there problems instead of taking some personal responsibility

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Stand corrected md it was St Louis dispatch reporting talking to dozen witnesses that back up the officers account

It was source in prosecutors office with officers injury

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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It's being reported by St Louis dispatch

If you had your eye busted your depth perception is blown 20 to 30 feet could look like 5 to 10 and if the guy is moving toward u after that your going to shoot until he is stopped

This is a game changer and will make his case much stronger in justifying df

And I do agree with u eers about this info

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It's not true until holder says it happened mntnir

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Honestly md I didn't read down far enough in the article to get to that quote

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“They’re basically flooding the zone [with investigators],” Thomas Dupree, former deputy assistant attorney general under the George W. Bush administration, told Fox News. “It’s an extraordinary level of commitment for an incident of this nature.”

Dupree said the response shows this case is something Holder “is personally invested in.”

Holder will visit Ferguson on Wednesday to meet with the FBI agents and other Justice Department personnel on the scene, as well as local community leaders. Holder’s Justice Department already has opened a federal civil rights probe – according to Politico, federal investigators are conducting hundreds of interviews and turning up information the local police haven’t – and conducted an additional autopsy of 18-year-old Michael Brown’s body.

A top DOJ official is heading to Ferguson Tuesday in advance of Holder’s arrival to work with local police.

Whether Holder and his department will ease or inflame tensions remains to be seen – it’s the same question that hangs over Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon’s decision to call in the National Guard.

Dupree voiced concerns that Holder is sending a signal to his department that there is a “correct outcome.”

“I don’t want to say they’ve prejudged it, but the statements he’s saying I think could lead people to conclude that there’s a right way and a wrong way to do things in the mind of the attorney general,” he said.

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I truly hope forensics and investigative teams will produce a definitive conclusion. Regardless of the version that bears out, the stupidity and lack of human decency of the Ferguson Police in the immediate aftermath was the accelerant. This young man lay dead in the street with a trail of blood for hours. Video of cops mulling around the exposed body like he was road kill! This was a human being. You figure they could have covered him up, or if forensics dictated against covering him, at least they could establish a barrier to obscure the community from plain view.

Given those optics, I see how that could engender a surrounding community's rage whether it be Black, Greek, Polish, Hispanic ETC.


The dude was DOA, you don't know much about working a crime scene or evidence gathering or been around those that have worked crime scenes.

If he wasn't dead when his face kissed the pavement he would have been given medical treatment. Its an officer involved shooting that gets an entirely different level of evidence gathering and crime scene processing than most others.

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If you put yourself in the cops shoes (all based on what we know this far) you've been attacked in your car fought and possibly almost lost your weapon to the attacker and the attacker leaves then turns around to decided to come back at you. In that situation I am going through my mind he's coming back to try and take my gun this is life or death i am under attack and I am going to use whatever force necessary to eliminate the threat. I shot one time guy keeps coming so I keep firing until the threat is stopped

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Eers what's the legal interpretation of this would this apply to cops and allow them to arm themselves without the presence of a weapon

Took this from summary of va gun laws

VI. RIGHT TO ARM
A. A person who reasonably fears that he will suffer serious bodily harm from an imminent attack has the right to arm himself for his self defense.
B. No malice will be inferred from the mere fact that the defendant armed himself under these circumstances.

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From everything I've seen it's justifiable use of df

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Cops aren't trained to shoot in the arm if your not shooting center mass of the most vital organ to eliminate a threat u can't justify df

If the guy was charging and your aiming center mass I can see hitting in the arm..

Cops are trained shot center mass and work up so it makes sense that he hit his arm if he is running while aiming at chest. If you have fired 4 shots aiming center mass and the guy keeps charging then head shots are next in line

If u reach for a cops gun then charge back at the cop are you going to take a chance on using pepper spray or baton to subdue the guy after he went for your gun once..it's an immediate threat and deadly force is justified

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Trayvon wasn't beating or shot by police either but holder and Obama poked there nose in there too


Do you honestly believe that Zimmerman should have never even been charged? That the case should not have even been heard by a jury? That's the path the case was on before the DOJ stepped in. That's why they did so. The locals were not acting. Contrast that to Denny. The police absolutely investigated, filed charge, and did their best to prosecute the case. It's the lack of action by the state in the Trayvon shooting that brought the DOJ in.


Yes I believe he should not have been charged the evidence supported the reasoning behind Sandford PD not charging him they knew they had no case against him

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And I may be wrong but I don't believe Reginal Denny had his civil rights investigated by the doj at the time of Rodney king



Reginald Denny wasn't beaten by police officers or other state officials. It wasn't state actors depriving a citizen of his rights.


Trayvon wasn't beating or shot by police either but holder and Obama poked there nose in there too

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I am asking the doj to quit cherry picking investigations and only investigating crimes where black guy is killed or beat by white guy

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I have a hard time seeing what civil rights were violated. You attack a cop u go for his gun and you get 2 to the head.


You know damn well had Micheal brown been any color other than black this would not have went across holders desk

And I may be wrong but I don't believe Reginal Denny had his civil rights investigated by the doj at the time of Rodney king


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where do you want me to start MD,

Lets start with the fact that the only and I mean only reason holder is involved in this is because its an opportunity for him to continue to race bait, look at the history of the crimes he has investigated like this.

Had this been a black cop shooting a black criminal, or a white cop shooting a white criminal he would not have said a peep and there would be no civil rights investigation.

Yet again here is another chance for this administration to try and come in and exploit the actions of a good cop because he shot a black street punk.

Why did it take the Ferguson PD a week to release the video footage of Brown man handling the store clerk right before the shooting, because Holder and the Obama administration pressured them not to do so. It would make there black angel not look like the innocent choir boy that was gunned down by the white racist cop out looking for a black "Kid" to gun down, it didn't fit there agenda. It was only released after the DOJ called for the FPD to be removed from the investigation. Yes I know they are two different crimes and there is speculation that the cop did or did not know about that. But it shows the mindset of brown his character and his actions and it is a pretty good chance that he full believes the cop thinks it could be him that just robbed the store, he has no idea if the cop doesn't know they are looking for him. So in my opinion they are related events, especially when you start trying to figure out the mindset of brown, that has to factor in to what he was like.

Are we going to have a civil rights investigation into the park ranger in philly that was beat by a minority, how about all the black on black crime, or black on white crime? not a peep out of these guys because they can't stir the pot and get the locals worked into a frenzy there.

They stuck there nose in the travon case and stirred the pot and the legal system worked out the way it should, now they have done nothing but stick there nose in this to stir the pot.

It would be interesting to see the percentage of DOJ investigated police shootings over the years, this current admin has to be in the lead in that. Step back and let the state and local law personal do there job.

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Re: Media goes into full race batting mode.
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Mounty,

I have been doing great hope you have been good as well. Yes I am way ready for football, it can not get here soon enough.

Eers, sadly the soap box has been more fun than the football threads but I may pop over there soon and try to bring some logic to the chicken little's. I had taken a break from posting on the couch, it was my short summer sabbatical

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