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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has proposed $15.3 trillion in tax increases, according to a new report, and would raise rates on virtually everyone, including the politically all-important middle class.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03 ... ases-220267#ixzz45XxlaCJ5
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03 ... ders-tax-increases-220267

Lets forget about the tax impact on individuals and look at the amount of debt this guy would be adding if he could get his plan approved and we could live in his awesome socialist utopia he thinks that is so great.

A recent analysis of Sanders’ tax proposals by the joint Tax Policy Center of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution, concluded that Sanders plan would raise $15.3 trillion over the coming decade. The Vermont senator who is campaigning largely on the issues of income inequality and the corruption and excesses of Wall Street, would spread the pain of higher taxes across the board, but with the wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans being hit with an average increase of more than $3 million in 2017.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/04 ... ould-Add-15-Trillion-Debt

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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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I am sorry I stand corrected, you get maxed out at little over half of what you make in income tax if your making 10 million or more and 48 if your 2-10.

I don't make 2 million a year but I don't believe in raising taxes on those that do.

I also don't believe in footing the bill for people to get a free education and paying for someone else's student loans.

Its amazing that the dems have a candidate that actually make Hillary look like an all star candidate.

I have guys that work under me that are educated and there views are right in line with the girl in the video that I put up. Just put the burden on the 1% and let them pay for it. I would say they represent the Bernie motto pretty well.

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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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Anyone who votes for Trump is dumber than a rock. The guy has all the substance of an infomercial.


And i would say the same for those that vote for sanders.

Anyone who honestly believes tax rate at 70% is the right direction has truley lost touch with real world



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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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This sums up the lack of reality of just about every Sanders supporter out there


https://youtu.be/P3LyZ8hyVZM

Free everything

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Re: NC passes bill blocking LGBT protections
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no issue with this bill, its pretty damn simple whatever you have hanging or not hanging between legs determines what bathroom or shower you go into.

If your a "man" and feel like you want to use the woman's room fine, cut it off and make that commitment and go for it. But if you have a d#$k hanging between your legs you use the men's room simple as that.

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Re: Veto? LOL
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So?


So using an example of someone doing it right doesn't prove that others won't. It is like saying that because a team scored on a draw play once, a draw play results in a touchdown every time. It doesn't. Having people running around with weapons without any training on either gun safety or how to use a gun lawfully doesn't seem like a bad idea to you?


With all due respect you have no idea what the level of training is required or what level this man had or didnt had.

It appears the only major requirement in the state of Washington for concealed carry permit is pass a backgroung check there is no formal training required that you guys seem to be so hung up on. There is no class room or any range time required.

http://www.usacarry.com/washington_co ... y_permit_information.html


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Re: Veto? LOL
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I would say this good guy and his family would say its well worth him having a gun

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/10/ ... caped-murder-suspect.html


And I am also sure he would have no problem undergoing a background check and passing some sort of reasonable gun safety course.


Maybe he would maybe he would not i dont know if you could say one way or the other. I dont support expanded background checks and i would be fine to see the current background system removed. I also dont support required training for a constitutional right.

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Re: Veto? LOL
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I would say this good guy and his family would say its well worth him having a gun

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/10/ ... caped-murder-suspect.html

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Re: Veto? LOL
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yep, that's right no one can ever have an accident.

They call it an accident for a reason and yes some people die from accidents, it happens. However I don't paint with a broad enough brush to say that everyone who has an accident is irresponsible.

This guy has had a ton of training, guess what he had a bad day and had an accident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ufT_6Kgy0

probably a very costly accident in the way of losing his job

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Re: Veto? LOL
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People have been open carrying for years because it is there constitutional right to do so, there is no training to do that


THAT'S COMPLETE NONSENSE --- that there's a right to open carry without training. It took the Supreme Court more than 200 years after the passage of the Constitution to rule that there was an individual right to bear arms (as opposed to a collective right by a militia). That decision was by a 5-4 margin with 5 rabid right-wingers in the majority. Now that Obama or Hilary will replace Scalia, that decision will not remain on the books long.
Even under that decision, the right to bear arms is not unlimited. Reasonable regulation is allowed. A requirement of training is certainly reasonable.
Further, as an aside, the 2nd amendment only gives rights against the Federal government. When this rabid-right Supreme Court ruled by another 5-4 margin that the City of Chicago couldn't completely ban handguns, it didn't rely on the 2nd amendment. Instead, misreading ancient English law, the court said that the ban violated the 14th amendment. Again, when a successor to Scalia is appointed, the results of this case will be reversed and states, including West Virginia, will be free to implement any gun regulation they desire, including a complete ban of hand guns. THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO COMPLETELY UNREGULATED OPEN CARRY. In fact, once a new Supreme Court justice is appointed, there will be no constitutional protection against gun regulation by states, including a complete ban.


Good luck with all of that, first of there is no way in hell Obama will get a pick this time around that should be pretty clear the good guys in the house and senate have said no dice.

I am not sold on Hillary being your next president either.

But you can keep trying this little narrative and maybe one day you gun grabbers will come up with something as powerfull as the NRA to compete with folks like me, but until then good luck and "Come and Take"

And please explain to me the required training for open carry, I will sit back and wait?

Posted on: 3/11 7:17 am
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Re: Veto? LOL
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I carry everywhere I go. My job requires me to go to places that are way off the beaten path in this state that has everything from meth heads, pill heads, shiners etc in the backwoods and southern coal fields. Most of these places have no cell service and I have one client that does not allow guns on there property and guess what I don't take it and I am also not scared to go on there sites either without it. I don't solely carry a gun to kill snakes but I have been known to kill rattlesnakes with it before.

I have stated many times that I hope to go through my entire life and never need to use it, however I never want to be in a situation where I go damn I wish I had it.

Based on my size, I know that more times than not I am going to have to fight you long before I pull my gun and shoot you unless your armed and you decide to engage me.

Call someone a **** while sitting behind a computer screen and a keyboard = definition of a real tough guy there.

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Re: Veto? LOL
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A THUG is going to pack no matter what the law says, If everyone was law abiding citizens....we would need less lawyers....just saying.


And you think tha answer is to set loose a bunch of untrained people with guns. What could possibly go wrong?


Can you please tell me how the CCW training all of the sudden makes someone so proficient with a gun. You don't need training to carry a gun, there is no training required in WV, VA, or any other state that you need to strap a gun on your side and walk down the street? So please tell me how much safer we are going to be by someone taking a class that amounts to here is how you put bullets in and here is how you unload your gun that is the majority of the ccw training. I have had friends take this course and they never got there guns out, they paid 60 bucks sat in a class for an hour and got there permit, so please tell me how much safer we are that these people can not conceal carry a gun because they sat through an hour long class.

Better yet why don't you look at the 8 other states that have passed this legislation and tell me how many boys in blue have lost there life to accidental discharge by a law abiding citizen that conceal carry and not from a criminal or from someone currently engaged in a criminal activity. Conceal Carry has never stopped a criminal from sticking a gun in there waster band with out a permit, it has prevented people who like to open carry from doing so in the winter out of fear of breaking the law as soon as they put a coat or sweatshirt on and cover there firearm up.

Do you have a ccw permit, have you been through this rigors training you think that takes place? The hunter safety course I took at 13 was more training than what I had to suffer through when I got my ccw


So the answer isn't make the training better? It is to just do away with the training? Makes sense.

BTW - while I am concerned for the safety of police officers, I am also concerned with the safety of the citizens at large. What is the over/under on the number of dumbasses who shoot someone when it wasn't justified because they weren't trained properly? I guess the right to life isn't particularly important.


Can you provide facts to back up your last assumption, there are 8 states that you could pull that data from that do not require.

Here is your training you ready, You must be in immediate fear of death or bodily harm and your only recourse is deadly force to eliminate the threat that is being posed to you.


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Re: Veto? LOL
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People have been open carrying for years because it is there constitutional right to do so, there is no training to do that, conceal carry laws prohibit someone that traditionally (with no training) open carry to put a coat on to go outside which in turns now conceals there weapon and makes that illegal. If they take the coat off it's is no longer illegal, nor is there some training required to do this.

I am fine with people carrying concealed or open with or without training and with or without a permit, there is nothing about that scenario that scares me, but I have never been one to think that guns are big and bad and scary either

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Re: Veto? LOL
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A THUG is going to pack no matter what the law says, If everyone was law abiding citizens....we would need less lawyers....just saying.


And you think tha answer is to set loose a bunch of untrained people with guns. What could possibly go wrong?


Can you please tell me how the CCW training all of the sudden makes someone so proficient with a gun. You don't need training to carry a gun, there is no training required in WV, VA, or any other state that you need to strap a gun on your side and walk down the street? So please tell me how much safer we are going to be by someone taking a class that amounts to here is how you put bullets in and here is how you unload your gun that is the majority of the ccw training. I have had friends take this course and they never got there guns out, they paid 60 bucks sat in a class for an hour and got there permit, so please tell me how much safer we are that these people can not conceal carry a gun because they sat through an hour long class.

Better yet why don't you look at the 8 other states that have passed this legislation and tell me how many boys in blue have lost there life to accidental discharge by a law abiding citizen that conceal carry and not from a criminal or from someone currently engaged in a criminal activity. Conceal Carry has never stopped a criminal from sticking a gun in there waster band with out a permit, it has prevented people who like to open carry from doing so in the winter out of fear of breaking the law as soon as they put a coat or sweatshirt on and cover there firearm up.

Do you have a ccw permit, have you been through this rigors training you think that takes place? The hunter safety course I took at 13 was more training than what I had to suffer through when I got my ccw

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Re: Veto? LOL
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Why? You live in Alabama.

Was the mandatory training that was removed a burden to you somehow?


you do realize that this mandatory training is all across the board. Most people's training in CCW classes amounts to putting bullets in a gun and unloading it. There is no required range time or even required proficiency with a firearm. Some classes don't even require you to bring in and handle a firearm. The training as written is a joke.

It has been comical to watch the sheriffs out cry on public safety stance, when they should have just come out and said we are pissed because we are losing x amount of dollars if this passes a year. Every officer is trained to approach every individual as if they are armed, this dose not put cops in any more of a danger than they already are.


You don't think more people carrying handguns without training doesn't put cops in danger? I bet you don't think it puts other people in danger either, do you?


No I don't, because there is nothing preventing anyone in this state or any other state from open carry. You do not need training to open carry its your constitutional right. This now allows someone who open carys to now put a coat on in the winter time and not break the "law"

My father has been a cop for 38 years, and when I told him about this bill he was delighted and responded with, "I wish Virginia would got on board and pass this legislation"

The guns are already on the street, cops are trained to approach every individual they come in contact with as being armed and dangerous. I have been through the CCW process and the so called required training, and I can assure you that the training does not make it any more or any less dangerous. There were people in my class that couldn't hit the broad side of the barn but you know what they checked the box as being "trained" and they got the same ccw permit that I have.

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Re: Veto? LOL
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Why? You live in Alabama.

Was the mandatory training that was removed a burden to you somehow?


you do realize that this mandatory training is all across the board. Most people's training in CCW classes amounts to putting bullets in a gun and unloading it. There is no required range time or even required proficiency with a firearm. Some classes don't even require you to bring in and handle a firearm. The training as written is a joke.

It has been comical to watch the sheriffs out cry on public safety stance, when they should have just come out and said we are pissed because we are losing x amount of dollars if this passes a year. Every officer is trained to approach every individual as if they are armed, this dose not put cops in any more of a danger than they already are.

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Re: University of Texas' Dean steps down because of campus carry law
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The WV Senate just overrode the governor's veto to pass Constitutional Carry.


It's a great time to live in WV and have the Republicans in control of both the house and the senate.

I will keep my Conceal Carry only because of the amount of travel I do, it's nice to have the reciprocity of the majority of the states I travel in. However I am glad to see this bill pass, would love to see a federal Constitutional Carry bill pass but I know that is pretty much a pipe dream.

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Re: Supreme Court
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That time table for vetting just may take 9 months or so, there is no time table for conformation

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Re: Supreme Court
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I'm sure Hillary will make a great appointment!

That's fine. Let the people speak.


They did. Obama won.


The people also spoke during the midterm elections, and that message was loud and clear then that shifted the power in both houses to the republicans. Checks and balances works until it does not work for your side

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Re: The un-buy-able candidate you're not seeing on TV...
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does Bloomberg running as an independent split the Dem vote and hand the election to the Republicans if Sanders beats Hillary?

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