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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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D- league salary is between 19500 to 26k,(Though if drafted, they prob. get more with a 3 year contract or so) not much, and Sags would most likely spend time there. If he doesn't put up huge numbers there, and the competition there would be much higher than College then he prob. wouldn't get the call. The coach for D league would also have zero incentive to feature Sags or make him the #1 option on offense. (Carter went from off the radar to prob a second roundpick, being feature by Huggins this season, and Sags would get that treatment next season if he stays)
I think its obvious to most people its a no brainer to stay in college one more year but the dream and shortcuts can easily sidetrack any younger person.

The question is how many players drafted 2nd round last season are getting any minutes or on NBA rosters. I'd gather maybe just a few. Whereas if drafted in 1st round a team will give you many chances even if your struggling. The payday from being a 1st rounder too is enough to live off too, if you dont make it.

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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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Yep, I think its 50/50 he leaves, could be lottery pick next season, or certainly could go 2nd round this season.
Obviously, you go 1st round then the NBA team, will give you at least two seasons to show you can play. Second round pick and you are expendable, they can bury you in D league and really never give you a chance for big minutes.

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Re: Lamonte McDougle
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Preseason last year, I wasn't that worried about D-line, like many we thought Adam Shuler was on the verge of becoming a star. That wasn't the case, and the D-line was below average. This year the Stills progress could mean the diffence of a good or average d-line. The potential and depth is better than last year.
The CB spot, I'm less worried with Pitts in there, I think he can learn and adapt well. Though I don't see this as a strength in our defense.
The linebacker spot is one injury away from having to start freshman, which is very bad since most of our recruits are not plug and play 4 or 5 star guys.

Right now on paper the starting 11 on defense looks legit.
With 11 power 5 games, I just don't see the defense holding up, injuries will happen as they do every season. The lack of depth due to transfers and injuries already this spring could spell trouble by midseason. Especially, If the offense is run the same way last year, then expect the defense to be out on the field at least 60% of the time.

DE Rose -Average
NT Stills - Above average
DE Donahue -Above average
SAM Benton -Average
Mike Tonkery - Average
Will Long- Excellent
LC Bailey - Average
SPUR Askew-Henry- Above average
FS Robinson - Excellent
BS Avery - Above average
RC Pitts - Above average
Depth is poor at Linebacker and Corner
Depth is average at frontline(Especially if we pickup transfer fm Clemson) and safety.


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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Personally I think Pitts will be a stud, as good as Worley. I think the first 11 will be good and if Dante Stills is a beast right away then we will be good on defense. The worry is that after a few injuries we really again have no depth and with 11 Power 5 games instead of 10 we will prob. by in a bad spot toward the later part of the season. ESPN FPI had us at 6 wins last year, and we won 7, but if Grier didn't get hurt prob, would of had 8. I think 8-4 is realistic for us, 2-1 out of conference and 6-3 league play. Though still early to say without seeing how preseason goes.

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Re: Grading this year
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Yeah, I saw that a few days ago, It explains a ton about West, hopefully he returns next season 100%.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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good news, lets pick up one more CB, the Clemson DE, and a linebacker with Ferns going down. Hell, with the spots we have open, lets get as many as we are allowed.

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Re: Grading this year
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.co ... o-build-an-ncaa-champion-

I think this kind of shows how well Huggins does, without the 5 star guys the other schools are getting. Average national champion had 2.4 5 star players, the mode and median would be 2. To give Huggins anything lower than an A for this season is punishing him for previous success.

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Re: Is It Football Yet? Spring FB Thread.
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Wow, three straight years if injuries.

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Re: Open scholarships
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Wrong, Sags testing pro waters. I put chance at 50/50, if he wows them at camp then he might be gone and to me there is a high chance that could happen. The question will be if Sags will leave now and settle for a second round selection this year, or take a chance on having a great year and becoming a lottery pick next year. Obviously, I think he should stay like Devin Williams should of the year before. If he stays he will be treated like how Jevon Carter was this year and be Huggins #1 offensive option.

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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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soundman wrote:
We'll probably make it to the Sweet 16 and get beat by _______


The best team in the country. NBA Kentucky, number 1 Gonzaga, and now clear best team Nova.


Not so fast my friend, they still have to beat Michigan.

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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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Right, I think Doomes will be of use in his first season, I'm thinking more Tarik Phillips type player.
Not sold on McCabe at all, especially the way Huggins wants his guards to play. In his highlights I was hoping to see a guard with NBA 3 range, bc with his size he will need to launch threes like Trae Young did, way o/s. Maybe I'm wrong but I just does see him being able to get his shot off in the Big 12. JUst too small and slow. I hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Lamonte McDougle
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To me its a bad move by him, he stuck it out 2 or 3 more years, and he prob had a high chance of making NFL. Obviously, NFL scouts know your playing in 3-3-5 system and your stats won't be high. Not saying he won't do just as well where he goes but why tinker with success.


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Re: Open scholarships
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Sags could leave, listed as #15 in 2019 draft, but I'm sure a team would take a chance on him for this year's draft in second round. Obvioulsly, though if he averaged 15, 10, with a ton of blocks, he could be a high pick next year vs, middle second rounder. I think the key to Sags being a top pick will be him becoming a rebounding machine. He's picked the right player to model his game after in Ben Wallace. Both are about the same size, and Wallace was a great NBA player due to his defense and rebounding prowess.

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Re: Grading this year
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Pretty much exactly what I expected preseason in wins and tourney results. Anytime WVU makes sweet 16 the grade is an A.

The Beilien and Huggins era has spoiled WVU hoops fans bc once Huggins is gone, I expect a huge dropoff like football.

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Re: Jordan McCabe commitment? (2018 PG)
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Guards for sure will be worse, Carter and Miles have led us to 3 three sweet sixteens and three Big 12 title tourney games. The next game or two will decide how they will rank in WVU all time greats.

It is way too hard to guage how McCabe will do in college, most of his highlights from Wisc are against similiar guards his size. The average guard in Big 12 is prob. at about 6-2, or if smaller they are fast as lighting like Graham, Mason, or Staten. He should start practicing threes from far away like Trae Young does now.

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Re: Sweet 16
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Right, I think this is a much better matchup vs. Purdue with Haas, that being said if Nova shoots over 40% on threes, we will have no chance. They hit 17/41 vs. Bama. all the games they won they shot over 40% on threes except for one(shot 35%) , all 4 losses they shot below 40%(three of them below 25%)

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Re: Sweet 16
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I know the focus is on nova. But would anyone else rather play purdue instead of texas tech? Or is it just me?


I'd only want Purdue since Haas is out, if Haas was playing then I'd take Nova. WVU does not matchup well vs. Purdue. They have two 7 footers that our decent, and taller guards that could handle press easier.

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Re: Sweet 16
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Who knows, who cares, how many games they'd win in Big 12 or how many WVU would win in Big East, has nothing to do with who wins this game. Just like playing Gonzaga last year.

Nova is legit, how can they not be, they won NC the previous year, and have 4 players from that team on this team. If they shoot the three well then they prob. win, if they don't then WVU has great chance, either way its a decent matchup for us.

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Re: Hunter's Mom
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Actually I think West will be fine. He stopped growing when Ahmadcame back and his time was cut.

I am still a West fan. Up side is high going forward.


I would say i'm the exact opposite.


Things I don't like:
1. It seems like it is always his guy hitting that open three in the corner.
2. Just seems very sloppy dribbling, like Eron Harris was.
3. Can't drive.
4. Defense is definitely below average.
5. Not very good at taking it to the hole.

Things I like:
1. Prob. best catch and shoot guy on team.
2. Can rebound decently, though sometimes forgets to box out his guy.

Would definitely want him on team next year, but this is a situation where I think Huggs beefing him up has made him less effective. I think we concentrate on what he is great at, which is running plays where he can get open for catch and shoot threes.



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Re: 2018 NCAA BB Tournament Thread
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Is Buffalo this good or is Arizona (and the rest o the Pac 12) that bad? I'm not shocked by Buffalo winning, but winning like this?


Kentucky beats Buffalo next round though.

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