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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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At my age, you've heard all the stories about how players had to grow up through ghetto, etc, etc, and made it big.

This story written by JC is inspiring though, not the same old crap, you can't help but route for the guy. It also make you look at your own life and want to fight harder.

Posted on: 7/19 4:14 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I used to be all for the challenging OOC schedule. It’s fun, and it probably makes us better. When Washington got selected for the playoff in 2016 that all got blown up. They beat one ranked foe, got massacred by another but went 12-1 and backdoored into the playoff. Penn st, Michigan and many others were vastly superior. But PSU went 10-2. They beat like 5 ranked opponents but lost in Ann Arbor without their entire defense and lost to a decent Pitt team on the last play. Penn st was 2 TDS better than Washington, as were many teams that year, but because PSU played somebody with a heartbeat, even as meager as Pitt, they missed out. Had they played Washington’s schedule they’d have been 13-0. The lesson is have some preseason hype and play nobody and you will get in over a really good team with one or two losses. I love playing marquee OOC games, but if we played Marshall, Kent St and YSU and went 8-1 in League play, regardless of how weak the league was that year, we and anyone else would almost always make the playoff


I agree with you 100%, plus when you play three patsies, you can play your second level guys in second half to get them experience and not risk injuries to your first line players.

Posted on: 7/17 7:35 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I don't see how we win a National Championship unless the B12 goes to 14 teams and 2 leagues or unless the Playoffs expand to 8 teams. I just don't think we can do it in a 10 team B12 with a league championship game--maybe in a few years if we get high quality depth. Until then, I am going to enjoy my Mounties and hope for miracles

Your last quote sums it up, "if we get high quality depth" We don't have it now and I'm not sure if we ever will. Lets be honest its hard for a Tier 2 team to have depth. I remember watching Ohio St's QB's go down one after another, yet they still made playoffs with depth. My point is we need to follow a Tier II team model like Baylor, MIchigan State or Washington did with OOC scheduling.

I think you just cross your fingers and hope we luck out as far as injuries goes, the first 22 can compete with any team is my belief. I really can't think of any team we play where are first 22 isn't better except maybe Oklahoma.

Posted on: 7/17 9:25 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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wvufan1818 wrote:
I'm with South. You guys are nuts. You do remember that we are WEST VIRGINIA, right? If we played 3 FCS teams and went 12-0 and the 9 conference games were ALL against ranked opponents, EVERYBODY would say that we had a terrible non conference schedule and unless every other top team had 2 losses, we wouldn't make a playoff. I'm loving our beefed up schedule. I think our players are too. Who gets amped to play youngstown state and James Madison? Come on guys, this is good for us, our players, our fan base, and the coaching staff. I'd rather play these tougher opponents and have our coaches learn from a loss (hope to win obviously), than to play James Madison 3 times and learn and gain nothing.


So,, let me ask you in 2014 when Baylor played no one OOC, but yet if they had beaten us, I'm pretty sure for a fact they would of made playoffs. They nearly made it playing no one in OOC, with 1 loss.

Posted on: 7/17 8:09 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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DanG wrote:
just a few years ago the SOS was weak - and it hurt us,
now the SOS is strong - - and it hurts us ?

nope!
runnin with the big dogs now
Lets GOoooooo Mountaineers !


Hurt us? How? Our best finish was 3rd place in Big 12, We got smacked, embarassed by Oklahoma in our best year in Big 12, That's what hurt us!!!

Yeah, we are running with the Big Dogs, but we don't have depth, especially this season. Look at the roster, I'm just being honest. We have what 73 schollies? We don't need to be playing 11 Power 5 teams.

Posted on: 7/16 8:45 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Bowl eligible ??? We need to be thinking CFP and want to be there every year. Alabama,Oklahoma,OSU, hell even most Longhorn fans arent talking about being BOWL eligible ,they`re all talking CFP,anything less is a participation trophy.


Haha, I like to be looking out of your rose colored glasses, since when have we even ever competed for a Big 12 title, let alone CFP, Baby steps my man, Baby steps my man. We are barely .500 in conference play.

I was never one to ever complain about being in Big East, so take me off that list. To me it was the easiest path to win a National title, look at our 2007 schedule, it was pretty weak yet we had legit shot at making National title game.

Posted on: 7/16 8:43 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Right, If Washington was able to make playoffs, playing only 1 power 5, that was Rutgers, why are we are going out of our way to play two, if we played only 8 conferences games, then yeah lets do two. The bottom line when we play two power 5 OOC, by the time we get to the meat of Big 12 schedule we have a ton of injuries and worn out players. We actually should do what Baylor did, till we actually start having a team that can finish higher than third in Big 12. We dont have the depth to play 11 Power 5 teams a year.

Posted on: 7/15 4:35 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I remember 93' and feeling great about the season, friends congratulating on how good WVU was. Then the bowl game happened and it really took a away from that special season, so to me the 2005 season where we beat Georgia in Sugar was better, bc the future seemed so bright after that game. Knowing that you would have Pat White and Steve Slaton for the next few years. I think we finished with our highest ranking too, 5th in AP poll. It really felt like we were on way to at least win one National Title and bc a powerhouse.

Posted on: 7/8 9:37 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Pretty much sums it up the last 28 seasons for me.
Upon season ending, I think the 2005 and 2011 season were the best, in the sense you felt great about the Bowl win, and that next season you had legit shot to win National title.
Of course it ended up being more of the, What If, Almost, and next year.

Posted on: 7/4 10:02 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Well because the environment is different now since the Playoffs started. I completely agree with Apizzle, its hard to get so emotionally invested in a WVU football team, I think 2012 was probably the hardest I went through.

Its nearly impossible for a Tier 2 team to win the National title now. Schools like Alabama, Ohio State, FSU, just have so much more talent. Now you most likely have to play two of the schools to win a title versus like WVU in 2007 we'd only have to play one.

But yes, this is probably the most talented team we've had since 2011,

Posted on: 7/3 7:53 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I think the first 11 in offense is elite, I think the first in 11 in defense is very good, barring injuries the team could play with any team. But as we all know injuries happen, and we have no depth on defense. So are season prob. derails halfway through.

Posted on: 6/27 7:04 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Agreed, I'll pass on BYU. And I'd take two of the these 4 schools: UCF, USF, Cincy, or UConn, whichever espn, fox, cbs, amazon, netflix say would increase Big 12 payouts.
To me Northeast is worth a ton more than West coast, unless of course its UCLA or USC, but again thats not happening. PLus it would be a nightmare to have a conference in three time zones.

Posted on: 6/25 8:07 pm
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Re: Jevon Carter #2 pick of 2nd round
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Good fit for JC, should get decent playing time next season.

Posted on: 6/22 7:24 am
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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Yep, the 25 max really would make it tougher.

Posted on: 6/20 3:45 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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Right, this would be awful for WVU if Big 12 added any Pac 12 schools, the travel is bad enough, the lack of rivalries, I'll pass on any West Coast school. A big part of Pac 12 weakness is timezone. Only teams that would move the dial would be USC and UCLA and thats not happening.

Posted on: 6/18 8:59 am
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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Holgerson has to learn how to recruit like Bob Huggins, get more than needed, bc in the end it all works out. It seems like every year we are short. 73 players vs. 85 we can have.
Instead of going for 85 go for 95 then due to attrition we will have 85 by opener. Huggins does this well in recruiting for hoops.

Posted on: 6/16 5:27 pm
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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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WVUrocks wrote:
I would love to see Bob Huggins get out there and mix it up. He was a pretty good guard in his day. but in his current condition I doubt if he could make it up and down the court.


I would not want to see this, he would have a heart attack for sure. I would like to see him hoisting the NCAA Basketball championship trophy though.

Posted on: 6/10 1:18 pm
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Re: AMOUNT OF GAMES 2018 WVU FOOTBALL TEAM WINS?
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eers4evr wrote:
How many games are there?... I remember 2012 with Geno, I had us going undefeated.... I have that same positive anticipation, just hope the outcome is different in 2018!


Yep, exactly how I feel, thats why I'm tempering expections to 8 wins. 2012 was just such a let down and awful second half to go through.

Posted on: 6/3 9:24 am
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Re: AMOUNT OF GAMES 2018 WVU FOOTBALL TEAM WINS?
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8 wins seems reasonable.

Posted on: 6/2 9:46 am
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Re: Sags is Back We Love Him or Sags Left We Hate Him
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In hoops, we have real potential to win National title.
In football, we have real potential to win Big 12.

Will there be a let down when we dont, probably.

Posted on: 6/1 7:38 am
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