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Re: Sandra Bland

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No, Mac did the right thing. It's not like he's crying because he got the speeding ticket either. Thanking the officer would be the same as having your nuts cut off.


Sorry, but I have to agree that Mac's post is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. The cop cuts him slack, and he chastises the cop for not cutting him enough slack in about as dickish a manner possible. If you are speeding, and admit you are speeding, and get caught speeding, and the cop doesn't give you a speeding ticket, don't invite him to do it. The ticket the cop was going to write had zero points assigned to it. Zero, as in none. Just say "Thank you" and move on. What point are you possibly trying to make? That your sense of entitlement is so large that you are irrational?

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Re: Push for Buctober

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7. I don't do this but by putting the text "so-and-so Wrote" beside the start quote you can give credit to the writer. I don't do this because it takes time. LOL I don't know if there is an easier way to credit the quoter or not.



If you use Sane's method, it automatically attributes the quote to the poster.

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread

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The Big 12 (and other conferences) have said that Boise isn't strong enough in other sports. I think they look at the athletic department, and not just the football program.


I agree but if that's the case than it could be solved by simply adding them for football only now rather the big 12 wants to do that is a whole different matter. It would certainly solve logistical issues as well as byu's Sunday play thing. I personally don't think it would happen but I think BYU and Boise would jump at the opportunity and the big 12 has exhibited they are willing to take in affiliate members (see all the recent wrestling additions). But rather that would happen in football or not is anyone's guess.


Without a strong athletic department, a school isn't adding enough value to justify the higher compensation they would earn by being a member of the conference.

Posted on: 7/29 5:37 pm
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Re: Sandra Bland

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Cops have been shot and killed during "routine" traffic stops. Again, this whole situation would never have happened if someone simply did what they were told. Most scenarios folks have listed in this thread resulted because someone didn't perform simple requests by police. The "victims" can't follow orders. Cops can't be "now Johnny, don't do that" (for the 15th time). To heck with the defiant trash that thinks they are above following laws.


Just because a cop tells you to do something doesn't mean you are required to do it. They aren't cloaked with supreme authority.

Nobody is arguing that the situation might have been different had she complied with his order. The fact is, however, that his behavior is like a "how not to conduct a traffic stop" video. Police officers need to be trained and need to behave as professionals, not like they are on Jerry Springer. If you can't do that, don't become a police officer. Their job is to serve and protect, not incite and arrest.

I bet you support this police officer too:

University of Cincinatti officer shoots man in head for driving with no license plate and not carrying his license, then falsely claims he was being dragged by the car, and two other officers lied to support him -- good thing we have video so they can spend time in jail

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread

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I really don't think that had anything to do with it, the committee did move Baylor ahead of tcu in the final rankings after all so they did take the head to head into consideration. I think it had more to do with Osu laying waste to a highly ranked Wisconsin team and playing one more game than either tcu or Baylor did.


Once again, not to belabor the point. THE FIRST criteria for selection (I do not know if they are weighted but one would suspect that IF they are the list would be by weight) is conference Championships. At the very least without the weight this is a situation of OSU, FSU, AL and OR getting that "point" and our conference not. Had we named a champion and got locked out that would be cause for alarm but the fact is we shot ourselves in the foot before the process even started.

I would say that If I had 5 teams and one of those didn't have a conference championship I don't think I could justify bumping a team that DID have one to include them. I just don't think that any other metric shows dominance over the others.

I never dreamed in a million years that our conference would have been so dumb. Go through the process and name the champion

As for the speculation, there is value to it but it is really all "if your aunt had a pecker she would be your uncle" there is really no way to answer it because it isn't that way.

In my opinion, the biggest problem was Florida State and their position in the previous year and not losing. In my opinion FSU bumped Baylor. It was obvious to everyone that watched that OSU DESERVED it and FSU CLEARLY did not.


This is true. And in most years the Big 12's method should produce a better result than the conferences that play a championship game. There is a likelihood that at least one team contending for the playoffs will be upset in the conference championship game by a team that is not contending.

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread

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The Big 12 (and other conferences) have said that Boise isn't strong enough in other sports. I think they look at the athletic department, and not just the football program.

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Re: Can you believe that Hillary and Bill have been stupid enough to think ...

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I have a theory to explain why I agree with you when you post in the sports threads. I think you must remove the aluminum foil hat when you post in those threads. Am I right?

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Re: Sandra Bland

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"Tell her the reason he wants her to put out the cigarette"?!?!?!


I would like to know if the officer had the authority to do this? She was in her car, and that is her property.

Not being snarky here. I get the whole "second had smoke causes cancer" thing (and I find it odd that this is the first time I have heard conservatives concerned about that) but if she is in her car and not under arrest....


I think it is fair for him to want her to put it out. A cigarette can be used to burn him.

Posted on: 7/27 9:53 pm
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Re: Sandra Bland

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Here is an actual police training manual from New Jersey. Read the sections on calming suspects and victims to try to defuse a situation. They are probably too touchy-feely for SG, but this is what police officers are actually trained to do.

NJ Domestic Violence Interviewing Training Manual


So you think domestic violence and this incident is the same situation?



No. Domestic violence is significantly more dangerous and significantly more emotionally charged, which really shows how poorly the cop managed a routine traffic stop. My point is that properly trained officers don't just bark orders at people and escalate situations toward violence.

Posted on: 7/27 9:50 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread

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I would prefer they not continuously throw the ball fifteen yards past the receiver.

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Re: Sandra Bland

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Here is an actual police training manual from New Jersey. Read the sections on calming suspects and victims to try to defuse a situation. They are probably too touchy-feely for SG, but this is what police officers are actually trained to do.

NJ Domestic Violence Interviewing Training Manual

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Re: Sandra Bland

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... Shouldn't officers be trained to quell people's anxiety when they are being subjected to stops, detentions and arrests in order to avoid the situation escalating to violence? In other words, why not just tell her the reason he wants her to put out the cigarette, and advise her that it is lawful for him to ask her to do it, and that he would do it with anyone he stopped?



Sorry, but this is just plain stupid. Officers trained to "quell people's anxiety"???

You can't be freaking serious!?!?!?

"Tell her the reason he wants her to put out the cigarette"?!?!?!

What planet do you live on.

"Advise her that it is lawful ... and that he would do it with anyone he stopped"?!?!?!?

YEA, all of that will work, and then this completely uncooperative person would have seen the error of her ways and magically would have followed is every lawful instruction.

UGH!!!


NYPD Resistance Training

Here you go, know it all.

Posted on: 7/27 4:43 pm
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread

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I thought that Howard was just trying to get the team fired up. I found it odd that he was mocking a player who was no longer an Aggie, but I didn't mind him trying to get some momentum going. If he makes plays, then more power to him.

Posted on: 7/27 2:10 pm
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Re: Pot cookie causes teen suicide

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If you seriously believe that Marijuana doesn't kill. Or that illegal and legal drugs aren't a big problem you are dreaming.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/12/mar ... -often-espec#.4kdv9l:sPVY

We have 33,000 killed by handguns. Alcohol related driving itself is responsible for almost 3 times that number at 80,000+

Marijuana is the second most implicated drug in traffic deaths. These dwarf gun deaths. These are just examples of people being killed who were on the road.



I don't think you read the article you posted very thoroughly. It is actually inconclusive as to the number of deaths caused by marijuana. With regard to the statement that "Marijuana is the second most implicated drug in traffic deaths," here is the complete quote from the article:

"Marijuana is the second most implicated drug in drunk or drugged driving accidents," Sabet says. That is misleading, because "implicated" means a driver killed in a crash tested positive for traces of marijuana, which does not necessarily mean he was under the influence at the time of the crash, let alone that marijuana contributed to the accident. Marijuana can be detected in blood and urine long after its effects have worn off.

BTW - what is your definition or standard for causation?

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread

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Re: WVU Race Car in Victory Lane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks.

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Re: Seattle's $15/hr Minimum Wage

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Just trying to make a point. If you think $15 an hour won't be passed on to the customer, you better put down the weed for a while.


Well yeah but by exaggerating the impact on prices your point becomes completely invalid. Have prices gone up in Seattle because of the min wage increase? Probably. Do burgers cost $20? LOL hell no. The place I have lunch at every day raised the price of the meal i order most days by 25 cents. Part of that may be because of the min wage increases but I would bet that most is from the skyrocketing rent increases resulting from the economic boom here. I'm fine with paying an extra quarter for a meal to balance the benefits that are achieved.

EDIT: By the way, servers aren't yet receiving $15/hour in Seattle yet. The increase ramps up slowly over as much as seven years depending on the size of the business. Small businesses ramp up more slowing than large employers. I think the wage now for small business is something like $11/hour (but I would need to verify). This is a pretty good indication that the 25 cent increase in my little Vietnamese restaurant has way more to do with increased rent prices and less with wage increase.


Historically, the effect of minimum wage increases on prices has been almost zero. One study found it to be about 0.04%. This isn't new ground. There is historical data that has been studied, and much of the fear-based predictions by proponents of the minimum wage increase are unfounded, based on the historical data. In the past, minimum wage increases have actually resulted in lower worker turnover, higher productivity, and more spending in the market, and these forces have largely offset the increased wage cost to the employer.

Posted on: 7/25 10:18 am
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Re: Sandra Bland

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Everything the officer did, up to and including opening her door, was legal. She was getting a warning for a traffic violation. Had she obeyed his lawful order to put the cigarette out, she would have received the warning and free to go.


Is the issue a legal issue, or an issue regarding the professionalism of the officer's conduct? Shouldn't officers be trained to quell people's anxiety when they are being subjected to stops, detentions and arrests in order to avoid the situation escalating to violence? In other words, why not just tell her the reason he wants her to put out the cigarette, and advise her that it is lawful for him to ask her to do it, and that he would do it with anyone he stopped?

Posted on: 7/25 10:12 am
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Re: WVU Race Car in Victory Lane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't follow racing. Why is the flying WV on his car? Is he a fan? Or is WVU a sponsor?

Posted on: 7/25 10:06 am
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