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Re: Cease Fire on the Soap Box on Game Days
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peace out...good night and good luck Sparky.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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Originally I was talking in specifics. The General Electric thing was just one of the more recent ones that I remembered reading about. To be fair I guess I should have went back through history picking out certain incidents that happens under various administrations. Then again who plays fair in the Soap Box? You did well on pointing out the contracts the Bush administration gave out under a time of war.

Cheney' s gonna get his. You know dat. Fo sho




As a (sensible) liberal, I get wound up as bad as the worst right wing nutjob...totally fair game to use the 'calm down Francis' memes when appropriate, lol!

...but you're wrong about Cheney. Dude has an artificial heart and is only getting stronger!!! He feeds on liberal angst!! Lol

Posted on: 9/14 11:46 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Of course here is where you ignore what I'm actually saying, and insinuate that I'm a racist. It's okay, I have thick skin. 😘


Actually it seems like pretty thin skin when you defend yourself from a racism accusation that I never made.

The statues that you defend are holy ground for racist elements and offensive to living human beings because of what those honored by these monuments did to earn them. That's my point in a nutshell.

Said nothing about you personally being a racist. Guilty conscience?

Posted on: 9/14 11:34 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I honestly see this move by the left as more about having the ability to take a statue down, than what the statue stood for. It's more about the ability to limit what people can say than what is actually being said.


What the statue stands for is 100% of the debate.

For the same reason that it is illegal to scream "fire" in a crowded theater it should also be illegal to go into public chanting "you will not replace us...Jews will not replace us...".

Posted on: 9/14 11:27 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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It's obvious you are missing the point I was making about taking down monuments to begin with. You keep just trying to make it about confederate monuments, because you don't have a leg to stand on otherwise.


Or because the debate at hand is about confederate monuments? Why do you absolutely refuse to debate specifics?

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Seems to me that you are just skirting the Bulshevik remark. That's just my simple opinion. I guess your "trolling" (lol) would have worked if I didn't actually know what I was talking about. I wasn't just repeating a talking point I heard. Though whatever, I made my point, no need to drag this out.


Ok...I don't agree that your historic example fits today's reality. Not going to waste time on Google to disprove your opinion.

Glad you proved your point. I just think we disagree but you seem to think that you are schooling me somehow.

Don't let that distract you from keeping count...per your self-imposed scoring system, you are on quite a roll!

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Some liberals are working to rip the foundation of our country and our society down. They want to burn it all on the altar of political correctness. It's a bad religion if I've ever saw one, and I won't be silent about it. Today it is a confederate statue. Tomorrow it will be something else. There is always something else. You can claim the moral authority if you want. That's what people who practice political correctness do.


First thought was to respond with: "...and the rest of us liberals are stealing all of the garden gnomes! You'll never stop us!!!"

But I will apply your debate tactic of taking your statement and asking you to defend it in a different scenario:

So you support the NFL players kneeling during the anthem...or that's blasphemy because of your political correctness?

Posted on: 9/14 11:06 pm
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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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More stupidity from the left..

The preposterous:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat ... cist-latest-comic-1038448

Makes we wonder if Superman ever had the balls to save innocents from a Radical Islamic Terrorist Asshole. I bet you'll never see THAT in a Marvel comic!



And of course the old double standard by MS ESPN:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ea ... t/?utm_term=.410d2ab85976

Schilling fired for posting a meme about transgender bathroom issues

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ ... when-hosts-speak-out.html

Jamale Hill tweets Trump, his cabinet and his supporters are white supermachist, and nothing happens.

Interesting business strategy by MSESPN. Piss off half your potential audience with some wacko liberal hosting sports center.

I've been done with MSESPN for a long time anyway. No clicks from me. No watching their networks unless its the only way to watch WVU content. They constantly want to interject their political perspective into sports programming. The last thing I want to think about while enjoying a sporting event is politics.

Screw em. They are dead to me.


Best part about it is that she is terrible. Every show she is on has HORRIBLE ratings and a couple of her shows have been cancelled. THATS who BSPN wants to protect. Not the world series MVP. But the woman who clearly has no idea what she is talking about. The funniest part though, which actually makes me physically laugh out loud - her mother voted for TRUMP.


One more post on the subject will convince me that you care as little as you say, lol!

It's ok to bitch about it, just don't pretend it doesn't bother you.

Posted on: 9/14 8:26 pm
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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.


Really? So crony capitalism/politics was a major problem "in the Obama administration"? Never a problem before that eh? Funny you don't mention the no bid contracts that resulted in BILLIONS going to conservative companies/donors during our wars of choice? Pointing out that it was a problem in the Obama administration without referencing other political thank-you's weakens your argument.

Here is another argument killer: "both sides are in the pocket of the rich". I won't deny that there are many democrat politicians in the corporate teet. Howeve, there is only one side that openly works to continually pass laws to benefit the rich without regard for the poor. Pretend otherwise if you like.


Nothing that you posted here actually debunks any of the points that I was trying to make if you really think about it. I whole heartedly agree that government has picked favorites under Republican rule. The Neocons were about as bad about it as Obama was. It's amazing just how many similarities there are between the neocons and higher up liberal leaders actually.


Thank you for clarifying. Someone might get confused since your original argument framed the debate as though it was only a problem on one side. I'm sure it was unintentional.

Again, you really want to pretend that both sides are equal in giving corporate money what it wants? I disagree. Please talk specifics and you may convince me to agree!

Posted on: 9/14 8:23 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I'll just leave this here.

Rice then, and now. Any libs want to apologize or admit they were wrong? No?

If she admits to the unmasking of Trump, why did she say she knows nothing about it?

Trump was right AGAIN


Yeah, whatever. Ten seconds of research shows that her explanation of what happened actually placated republican concerns. Even loudmouth Nunes had no comment afterwards.

Regular routine activities...or as Trumpists call it: another HUGE win for the president!

Link...actually read it if you like.


Posted on: 9/14 8:14 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Remember, you support confederate monuments staying in public but don't want t be associated with the White power crowd.


My original point was in the aspect of all monuments that Liberals are working/have worked to remove. Contrary to popular Liberal beliefs, having appreciation for ones heritage does not make that person a Nazi. It is possible to appreciate heritage and not like or support white supremacists ideals.



Having appreciation for something doesn't make the thing that you are appreciating right or appropriate. Someone may appreciate the warmth and illumination of a burning cross...they are still on the wrong side of appreciation.

Think about it. These monuments are memorializing men that actively fought to take part of our country away and make it into another country. Those statues are tributes to the leadership of an occupying force. Celebrate that if you want.

...and just like would happen today: the greatest country on earth marched in and whooped that occupying force's ass. Period.

Participation trophies. Thought conservative real Americans hated that snowflake stuff?


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Still waiting on you to respond to my Bulshevik remark. I did my part and explained what I was talking about.



Please. I've hung around plenty of political chat rooms. I know all of the conservative greatest hits including your accusation. So I was trolling a bit there.

When I say that I support opposition to open white supremacist rallies and you go to the Bolshevik analogy it makes me want to say that since you support keeping confederate statues then you must think that hanging black people is ok. Doesn't make much sense does it?

Posted on: 9/14 8:05 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I wouldn't call it trolling. It was more like baiting. The Alex Jones video was the setting of the hook. As in hook, line, and sinker that is.


...and me calling you on it was falling into your trap? Well played, Jedi.

Posted on: 9/12 10:47 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Let me get this straight. First the article I posted wasn't credible, because of another article on the news site I posted from, had another article showing documentation about cloud seeding ahead of Harvey. The poster (scoffer) on this site made a false claim about what the other article was actually about.

Then the article I posted wasn't credible, because of the advertisements. I then showed that mainstream media outlets are ratings driven, and got a reply moaning about Benghazi.


Wasn't me. Haven't had time to keep up lately and did not read the link(s) in question. Please don't assume I automatically agree with other folk's arguments.

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Then I pointed out the shady dealings of a liberal media outlet that has blatantly been shady in their reporting. Though those dishonorable actions are actually honorable, because once the news outlet got caught, they had to take action to save face. Of course this was construed as journalistic integrity.



As all the episodes able news outlets have done. Please show me the 100% perfect news source.

Again, there were repercussions for their unprofessional behavior.

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Then I took the standards you all proclaimed that made journalism actual credible journalism, and showed that Infowars actually went to that extent to be credible in their reporting. Though that wasn't acceptable either for some horse **** reason.


Really? I have to find a UFO story or some other nonsense that he hasnt retracted to show you how your example selectively applies professional standards?

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It's like trying to nail down jello with you people. You understand how unreasonable you seem to be right? Though I'm sure you will procure some antic to invert this reality as well. It's like playing with a spoiled child that insists on making up all the rules.


You people?

Remember, you support confederate monuments staying in public but don't want t be associated with the White power crowd.

Argue specifics please.

Posted on: 9/12 10:46 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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By your comment I assume you do agree that just because a journalist has a college education, and has taken an oath, they still are capable of being "ethically-challenged". At least that was the statement Strohs and Da Beer were making.


Not the point I was making at all. Stop making crap up.

I said professional journalists are held to standards, have to retract things proven to be false and can lose their jobs if found to act unethically.

Unlike Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and our current president. They say whatever lie they want and never retract anything when proven false. Your basement bloggers that you want to respect as much as professional journalism fall into that category.


So by your standards Infowars can be considered a legitimate News outlet, because they hold themselves to ethical standards, retract reports that are proven not true, and discipline reporters that cross those boundaries.

An example
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Thanks for helping me prove my point.



Are you high or just trolling?

Saying that legitimate news sources are held to professional standards is not at all the same as saying that any news source that has ever held itself to a professional standard is legitimate.

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Unlike Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and our current president. They say whatever lie they want and never retract anything when proven false. Your basement bloggers that you want to respect as much as professional journalism fall into that category.


This isn't even an intelegent argument. Infowars and other News outlets are not talk shows. The Alex Jones show, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and the like are talk shows. They express opinions on the news of the time. If you want to actually compare apples to apples, then you should compare them against the left leaning talk shows. The left has Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Jimmy Kimmel, and Stephen Colbert. I haven't heard any retractions from that left leaning group. Nor do I witness much in the way of ethical standards.


Just like Facebook memes, these opinion shows are absorbed as primary sources of information. The folks producing this misinformation (on both sides as our president says) know this fact and are unchecked on what they can say. Throw Olberman and Maddox in there. No arguements from me.

Posted on: 9/12 4:30 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Yeah just forget the fact that it was proven that CNN was telling their journalists to push the Russian narrative.

He actually mentions ratings in his statements.
http://projectveritas.com/2017/06/27/ ... ive-is-all-about-ratings/


High standards in deed
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/432423001/



Of course as it's become blatantly obvious that y'all will only accept the media that supports your view points. I'm sure you will find some flippant reason to denounce these links as well.

Sad


So a person with the job of driving up ratings is caught on video being frank about his job is shocking to you? From what I can tell, the only journalists that carried it out were dealt with as is customary in that profession.

...and a mega corporation choosing to ignore bad press rather than band over for you...that shocks you too?

Let me guess: every morning for the years long Benghazi story FoxNews held a prayer meeting and reaffirmed that they were being honest? You don't think that they openly talked about how that story kept the rubes fired up and the ad money coming in regardless of the facts?

I do appreciate your CNN focus though. Presidential.


Posted on: 9/11 11:48 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Yes we've seen the the "high standards" your beloved journalists have been living up to these days.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dailyca ... ff-trump-russia-coverage/

The article only had one link to an add about rheumatoid arthritis, so I sold be okay right?


That's the point, there were ramifications for their actions. They were pulled from the story and likely lost their jobs. If they did lose their jobs then they will find it hard to get another legitimate journalist gig.

Alex Jones, Rush, Hannity, Trump, Johnny the basement blogger...no ramifications. It matters.

You used the medical oath as an analogy. Taking it a step further I guess you're saying that anyone is as qualified as a doctor to diagnose your ills because education and professions mean nothing. Or is it only professional journalists that you have so little respect for?

Posted on: 9/11 6:13 am
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By your comment I assume you do agree that just because a journalist has a college education, and has taken an oath, they still are capable of being "ethically-challenged". At least that was the statement Strohs and Da Beer were making.


Not the point I was making at all. Stop making crap up.

I said professional journalists are held to standards, have to retract things proven to be false and can lose their jobs if found to act unethically.

Unlike Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and our current president. They say whatever lie they want and never retract anything when proven false. Your basement bloggers that you want to respect as much as professional journalism fall into that category.

Posted on: 9/11 5:23 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Wonder why nobody wanted to take the statues down for the 16 years in recent memory we've had a democrat president or the 8 years we've had a black president. You know since you say the statues only represent slavery and to make minorities second class citizens. LOL. Wow you're so stupid. Also why was there a statue of a southern general in northern democrat city of Baltimore? Why didn't any of the democrats champion for that statue to be removed literally any other year? Ive talked to my friends that are minorities in CVille, and baltimore, and like Charles Barkley, havent thought a day about those statues in their lives. Although they are "uncle toms" to their fellow minorities and liberals because they voted Trump and are republican. Why is demolishing statues now a thing? Because it's now popular due to the alt-left thinking the statues are evil boogey men and they dont know history. Well, history gives you power, and that's why the left keep losing.


Here's why: because the presidents at the time didn't embolden white trash to march in our cities chanting "blood and soil", "white power" and "Jews will not replace us".

So here's the thing. If this garbage wants to crawl out of the shadows and rally around these statues then screw those rednecks...tear them down and watch the tears flow. Boo-frickin-hoo. Go rally at the museum where the statues belong...might learn a thing or two.

Posted on: 9/11 5:17 am
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Well if all they did was punch Nazis in the face, your point would be valid. Selective memory is bliss isn't it?


No idea what you're saying here. I said to charge folks on both sides with all applicable crimes. But again, nobody on my side has driven a car into a crowd.

Posted on: 9/10 5:11 pm
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Stay safe Florida Mounainerrs! Really pulling for things to work out as good as possible.

Posted on: 9/8 4:20 pm
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Re: Cease Fire on the Soap Box on Game Days
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jumping the gun just a little bit. that's fine.


Yes, because you are the Internet police. Great to have you back on the soapbox telling us what to do. We've been confused in how to use the internet without you.

Be sure to let Sparky know that the rest of us are not part of what is about to happen before doing the deed tonight.

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Posted on: 9/8 4:11 pm
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Re: The Wisdom Gap
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No ... social media is just another medium on which to seek an education. It is up to you to use your intelligence and experience to filter through social media to decide whether it is fact, opinion, propaganda or a combination of all three. The more experience you gain, and how your intelligence processes social media will determine how it applies to and grows your ultimate wisdom.

Your post proves my point.


As your post proves mine.

Posted on: 9/8 4:02 pm
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