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Re: Swamp Drainage
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Will the real zwaa please stand up, you know, the libertarian, not the socialist democrat.

Posted on: 7/17 2:49 pm
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Re: Swamp Drainage
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Here is how I see it. Trump is a rino, because if he tried to run as an independent or anything else he would have handed the presidential election to her.

Posted on: 7/16 7:31 pm
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Re: Swamp Drainage
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So the NYT is calling the indictments a bold move. Seems to me I remember when Manafort and some of the last Russians that were indicted began to fight back in court, all Mueller could do is stammer around and never provide evidence to back up said indictments. Why is it that these days the FBI has a huge problem when it comes to giving honest straight answers?

Conclusion: Before clapping your hands together and jumping about with glee, I’d wait and see how things play out.

Ps: Aren’t we still waiting on Mueller to provide the evidence that has been requested from him in court?


These articles are not about the investigation. It is about Trump’s apparently infatuation with Putin (among other dictators) and his apparent disregard to Russian methods to destabilize democracies and put wedges between us and our allies. Trump seems to be getting tooled by Putin. There are many examples on my earlier posts. Manafort is still in jail with more charges added. To my knowledge all of Meuller’s charges in his indictments have stood.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/t ... -putin-meeting/vi-AAA6BFw

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/us/ ... tin.html?partner=msft_msn

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/14/politic ... attacks-russia/index.html

Wedge- really? The democracy is being destroyed from within.

Posted on: 7/15 7:20 pm
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Re: Pruitt Resigns....
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Looks like the Liberal bully tactics of threatening people and their families is still effective. Here’s hoping the next person that Trump appoints has balls of brass, or boobs of brass if the case may be.


meh, he accomplished what he set out to do. Now he can take a cushy, high 6-figure salary job with the gas company he was working for while in office.


Agree

Exactly, like ANY good politician does.

Posted on: 7/15 7:02 pm
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Re: Former WVU players in pro basketball thread
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Carter lit it up last night. Good luck Mr. Carter.

Posted on: 7/15 7:38 am
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Re: Swamp Drainage
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I’m not well educated in hearings, like this, but I find the questioning and replies, maybe more specific, kind of strange. Let me explain, these lawmakers look to be reading from scripts. Does this seem right? Or is this normal?

Posted on: 7/15 7:37 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Interesting you pretend to assume I was upset. I wasn’t. AT. ALL.

“Who cares who wrote it?” I was referring to your post, in which you said that exact thing. Try paying attention.

Prayer? I’m sure we could all use some in these troubling times, but I don’t believe you were actually sincere about that, so never mind.


1) Upset - maybe I was wrong but, with your reply I'm not feeling it.

2) I reiterate - who cares - most all of what was stated has been well documented on the evening/24 hour news cycle.

3) Prayer, yes I truly mean it. You are a mountaineer and I care for all mountaineers.

Posted on: 7/11 7:38 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


By your own admission, you don’t know who wrote the listicle you posted. Why is it that you are so confident taking an unattributed source as gospel even as you are so sure that the most basic, middle of the road fact checked media outlets are lying.

It’s an interesting position to take, I’m genuinely curious to hear how you justify it.

Justify it - there are 20 items there bucko - how about you point out the ones you want justification on? And who cares about who wrote it and yes most of these are well documented when you watch the normal nightly news. I'll sit back and wait for your attempt to dispute most of them. You can't.


Translation: I am unable to defend my unattributed source. Use bluster as an attempted distraction. Fail.

If they’re so easy to document, why don’t you do it? You’ve presented it as your point of view. It’s your responsibility to back it up, not mine.

Who cares who wrote it? I do - & you should too if you’re going to blindly accept it.

Bucko? Once again, y’all devolve into name calling mode when challenged. At least you didn’t resort to lewdness. That’s a refreshing change of pace.

Bucko, bucko, bucko - sorry I hurt your feelings. Really? You are that sensitive. I would have expected you might have been hurt if I called you an A-hole or richard weed but, I didn't I called you bucko. Where I come from that is just normal teasing and kind of a term of endearment, sorry you are so butt hurt. But, I digress.

you wrote - "If they’re so easy to document, why don’t you do it? You’ve presented it as your point of view. It’s your responsibility to back it up, not mine."
What? I did answer it and I answered it with a pretty broad brush because it has been reported numerous times on ABC, CBS and other major networks. See, I do watch and listen to ALL types of media so that I can make an informed conclusion or what is really happening.

you wrote - "Who cares who wrote it?"
Why - what is the big deal?
"and you should too if you’re going to blindly accept it."
I don't care who wrote it because MOST of it is very evident - see above answer. And if you cannot see this, you need help. I pity you, please get help.

I will pray for you. Truly.


Posted on: 7/10 7:39 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


By your own admission, you don’t know who wrote the listicle you posted. Why is it that you are so confident taking an unattributed source as gospel even as you are so sure that the most basic, middle of the road fact checked media outlets are lying.

It’s an interesting position to take, I’m genuinely curious to hear how you justify it.

Justify it - there are 20 items there bucko - how about you point out the ones you want justification on? And who cares about who wrote it and yes most of these are well documented when you watch the normal nightly news. I'll sit back and wait for your attempt to dispute most of them. You can't.

Posted on: 7/9 9:24 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Strohs wrote: 8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system
Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.
I mean, the amount of money that illegal aliens pay in taxes is pretty well documented: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how- ... deral-taxes-an-explainer/ "The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually. Undocumented immigrants also help make the Social Security system more solvent, as they pay into the system but are ineligible to collect benefits upon retiring. In 2010, $12 billion more was collected from Social Security payroll taxes of undocumented workers than were paid out in benefits." Benefits for illegals are pretty much limited to the CHIP program. So no food stamps, whatever the $4500 for a new car means, and whatever the guy means by free rent. I think that pretty much covers it, Joe but there are plenty of resources for this stuff if you're interested in educating yourself
How many illegal aliens are in the USA?
Here I’ll answer it for you, 12 million. Just think all that money, they contribute,1,750 per illegal to our SSI and payroll taxes. But, ask a couple questions from that - 1) how many are children? They don’t contribute 2) how many children go to school? 3) how many mothers stay home? 4) what is the yearly cost to our system for each citizen, I’m talking just basic needs. The list is longer than this. So, you make it sound like they don’t do anything but give, but that is where you are wrong. The gross sums is they take more than give.

Posted on: 7/8 10:34 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Strohs wrote:
8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


I mean, the amount of money that illegal aliens pay in taxes is pretty well documented:

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how- ... deral-taxes-an-explainer/

"The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually. Undocumented immigrants also help make the Social Security system more solvent, as they pay into the system but are ineligible to collect benefits upon retiring. In 2010, $12 billion more was collected from Social Security payroll taxes of undocumented workers than were paid out in benefits."

Benefits for illegals are pretty much limited to the CHIP program. So no food stamps, whatever the $4500 for a new car means, and whatever the guy means by free rent.

I think that pretty much covers it, Joe but there are plenty of resources for this stuff if you're interested in educating yourself

How many illegal aliens are in the USA?

Posted on: 7/7 2:11 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.

Posted on: 7/7 7:05 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I didn't know where else to put this but, whoever wrote it should get a medal.

"Interesting letter to the President and the Government….

Dear President Trump, and Members of Congress:

I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements. We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, the President of Mexico, that I'm on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking Government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.

4. I want my grand kids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grand kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grand kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my housetop, put U.S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

19. One more thing let me and my family get in-state enrollment to any college we want to get into, ahead of any Mexican.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all of his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that the President of Mexico won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Funny how stupid this looks when it's put it in writing... Or maybe not so funny"

Posted on: 7/6 9:54 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yiXSy0eBZmM

Trump listens to Clinton and Obama speak out about illegal immigration


Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, hahahahahahahahahahahahah

Posted on: 7/3 10:57 am
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Re: Swamp Drainage
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Staying with the topic. I had a thought. On one hand I kind of like the idea of the republican party NOT sticking up for Donald, on everything. On the other hand the democrats follow their leader(s) on whatever kooky idea that is thrown out. Kind of makes you wonder.
The real issue though is the swamp is massive and most in it are part of the problem.

Posted on: 6/28 12:50 pm
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I have better things to do with my weekend - Drink beer, cut lawn, drink more beer.
Family separation protests nah, don't cross the boarder, don't do anything illegal, this will keep people from being separated from their children. Seems simple to me.

Posted on: 6/28 11:25 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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This isn't about republicans or democrats. Harley is a dinosaur and will probably not survive unless it starts making bikes the people want. This (tariff thing) was nothing more than a smoke screen.
I know you are smarter than this, so why the rhetoric?

Posted on: 6/27 9:19 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I never get tired of watching this.

Posted on: 6/27 7:33 am
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Re: Dangerous Donald
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What is your point? You place an article about a company and leave.


Do you really not understand the significance of that article relative to the topic of this thread?

Oh I am well aware of the significance related to the topic.
Do you really not understand the issues Harley has been having for years?

Posted on: 6/26 10:42 am
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What is your point? You place an article about a company and leave.

Posted on: 6/25 11:12 am
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