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Re: Citicorp, JP Morgan Chase, Barclays and RBS plead guilty to Felony charges
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We need to put Barney Frank


Yes. It is really sad that people of Barney Frank's ilk are on the banking committee. The older I get the more economically illiterate our leadership gets.

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Re: Coaches Caravan--Heavy Drinking in Beckley
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I looked at Huggins comments about the officials and while he is often right about coaching basketball and basketball strategy his belief that officials somehow are not accountable is laughable. There are few businesses where there are as many people waiting to take positions away from people as there are in NCAA officiating.

He talks about inconsistency in officiating. This is a chronic catchall by fans and coaches and means many things. There will really NEVER be total consistency when opinion and judgement come into play. Not everyone sees things the same so I would say the likelihood of seeing COMPLETE consistency is a pipe dream. Inconsistently is easy to see in sports where there is a high probability of missing a call. A few years ago I was calling a game between 2 teams when, I assume, a defensive player held an offensive player through the lane. I did not see it as I had a bad angle. The coach had a pretty good angle and the next time down the floor I get the consistency talk.

Coach: "Did you see my guy get held?!"
Me: "No, coach I did not."
Coach: "He got held!"
Me: "I am not saying he didn't. If you saw him get held he did. I did not see it. I can't call it if I don't see it."
Coach: "You are inconsistent."
Me: "Ok."
Coach: "That doesn't bother you?!"
Me: "By your definition, if I miss a call I am inconsistent. I will miss calls, I am only human. There fore there is nothing I can really do to be consistent is there?"
Coach: "?!?!"

With that said, I do agree with him about consolidating the directors of officials. Each conference currently has a director of officials that hires their staff and assigns their games. They also communicate to their staff what they want. The officials by-and-large give it to them or they don't have a job.

I work for 3 different assigners. The assigners are significantly different...Assigner 1 to me: "Bobby, I don't want that ticky-tack hand **** called out front. Don't call three seconds if you can get away with it. Tell that guy to get out of there....etc.". Assigner #2 to me: "Bob, the rules plainly state that the hand check needs to be called. I want that hand check cleaned up in my games. Get it early and call it regardless of location from the basket. Don't warn! Warn with your whistle. They will get the message.". Assigner #3 to me "Call your game. I don't care what you call, just back it up with an explanation when I ask and when I ask for a comment on a clip of game film be descriptive about what you saw. Don't kick a rule. I can't back you up if you kick a rule." All of these things are things which have actually been said to me about refereeing a game for an assigner.

As a result, as an official you have to know who you are working for that night and what they want. A lot of times a coach will say, "I don't want that called. My opponent doesn't want that called either." I reply, "Coach I don't really give a rat's ass what you want called. I care about what my assigner want's called. He is hired to assign games based on what the ADs want. If you want the basic methodology changed you get him to tell me he wants it changed. He ultimately "signs" my check by assigning me the game."

Now back to consistency again...Sometimes schools cross assignment boundaries. It is possible that a coach/fan which saw me officiate for Assigner #1, then has me in a game for Assigner #2. See the problem?

"Hey ref! You called 7 hand check calls tonight. The other night you didn't call any! That is inconsistency." No, that is knowing who you are working for and doing what you are asked to do but it does put me in a bad spot sometimes.


Finally, Huggins implies that the Big 12 doesn't evaluate their officials enough.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=205052740

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In the Big 12, we have an observer at every single game. This person files a postgame report on all of the officials' performances and we have people who watch the game records after select contests to also evaluate and grade the officials. In addition to the significant in-depth study by the conference observers, the NCAA also has regional advisors who will watch selected games and supply a report to the conference. Officials then receive feedback from the coordinator about their positioning, rules knowledge, and play calling on a regular basis.

After the in-season review and study, the conference coordinators will conduct a postseason review with each member of the staff at the conclusion of the season.


While they stopped short of of saying video review of EVERY game, I would be shocked that it isn't done more than it isn't. They say select games.

Posted on: 5/21 11:49 am
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Re: Citicorp, JP Morgan Chase, Barclays and RBS plead guilty to Felony charges
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This goes on quite frequently. Not at this scale normally but the interbank markets and the commodity markets are very susceptible to tampering. They just are not deep enough like the bond and stock markets. As a result, there is considerable money that can be made by this type of manipulation.

Posted on: 5/20 4:08 pm
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Re: Pensions for Elected Officials
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Pensions weren't a big deal at the start of our country because....well....most of the people didn't LIVE that long. Even our founding fathers worked up until their death or were able to retire from their wealth that they acquired because there was no real medical system to keep people alive who couldn't work for the most part.

I agree with what you are saying about public service but I am beginning to think that the complexity of our nation requires at least a number of statesmen that have some significant experience. I think the fact that we have had a President that had little political experience in the past should cure even the most liberal or conservative of wanting to go through THAT again.

Posted on: 5/20 3:36 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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to come from within Iraq or at least the middle east and that nobody would ever respect this US nation building farce.


Not really looking to start an argument or to spend much time on it but does the opposite side of the Iraq war support really believe that we would have something significantly different had change come from within Iraq? Or do you think that the Middle East Powers that would bring down Hussein would be aligned anywhere close to our ideology?

I don't see it. I think devoid of Hussein being a death mongerer there is no one in the area that would have been able to create enough patriotism to defend their country. They elected their leader and can't rally around him or have enough where-with-all to stop fleeing the area where ISIS is taking over.

Posted on: 5/19 12:11 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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Bush Sr. had as much support as you could have ever asked for taking Saddam out, but stopped short.


Bush Sr. was asked that question on PBS (the show about the Presidents, I think) and he was asked why he did not go on to Baghdad and he stated that he did not have the authorization from the United Nations.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexper ... al-article/bush-gulf-war/

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While Bush's decision to conclude the war without removing Saddam Hussein from power would become controversial, his advisors would recall that the president was insistent that the war should not exceed the authorization of the Security Council.


So that would lead one to believe that HAD he had the authorization like W. he certainly left it open to being done.

I am not arguing that it would have been a particularly good move I am saying some decisions don't necessarily good alternatives.

Posted on: 5/19 12:05 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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Well, shame on anybody for voting on that resolution and I've heard that many didn't even read the full 94 page report.


I am thinking that as President you are going to be required to read more than 94 pages before you act on something during a crisis.

At the same time, it was certainly Bill Clinton that wanted "regime change".

Is it possible that some of these people knew something more than what is "out there" for public consumption? I have to believe that when this many people act a certain way it has to at least be a possibility that there is something to it. We aren't talking about George W. Bush alone. I mean if it was one person but we are talking about multiple administrations and different political parties.

Posted on: 5/19 11:41 am
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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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MichaelJLucas,

I did read through some of your post.

I would think that ALL D-1 Major conferences have reviews of EVERY game.

I know that the ACC does. I know that the SEC does. I am pretty sure that the Big 12 does IIRC. I don't really know for certain that the Big and the Pac as I don't personally know any officials in these conferences.

I know the ACC review process. For each game the tape is reviewed by official evaluators hired by the director of officials. The game video is watched and each official has his area reviewed for 1- Whistles blown that should not have been, 2 - Whistles blown and the correct call made, 3 - Whistles not blown and should have been. For whistles blown the correct percentage MUST be above 92% or you find yourself looking for a new job.

In addition, after this evaluation is done, a second evaluation is done from the 4:00 mark in the second half to the end of the game. At this point of time to the end the official is severely penalized for a whistle blown that is blown incorrectly. That is why if an official is going to miss a call at the end of the game he will miss it by NOT blowing the whistle. As a result, hopefully, no marginal calls get made in the last 4 minutes.

EDIT: BTW, those "orgasmic" motions when a call is made, is called "selling the call". There are times to do it and times not too. Most of the time I see a referee doing it at the college level it is the proper use of the technique.

Here is why:

You want to get fried? Make a game changing call and walk around quietly. It doesn't matter if you are right or not you will get crucified. This is especially true if the coach didn't see or if the infraction is hard to see due to obstructions. Make sure that if you have a travel in a group of people and you take away a basket or a good basket opportunity you come out of there with a loud whistle and make the signal like you are going to win an academy award. If you don't you will not last long at ANY level.

Posted on: 5/19 11:03 am
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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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From the NCAA website:

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“Another concern has been the flow of the game and the amount of stoppages in play,” Hunter said. “The elimination of a 30-second timeout in the second half as well as the possibility of a technical foul for any unnecessary delays should help in that area.”


This is such hypocrisy! When D-1 schools started this crap of carrying their entire entourage out to the foul line on time outs, was when this stoppage crap got out of control. It is real simple, when the second horn sounds if there is a drop of water or a foldup chair or bench personnel ON THE FLOOR, its a technical foul. Enforce the rules you have and it will take care of itself.

Posted on: 5/19 10:48 am
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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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• Penalties for faking fouls (i.e., flopping).


This is not correct. The change to the rule will be allowing the officials to use video to penalize faking of fouls when looking at flagrant fouls. So if the player made the flagrant foul look worse than it was the video evidence could be used to penalize him.

It has ALWAYS been a rule that faking a foul, including flopping on a block/charge, is illegal and is punishable by a technical foul on the faker as unsportsmanlike conduct.

The prevailing call in college is that a flopper results in a blocking foul as the officials did not want to give the player a technical. I would say that a significant percentage of block fouls are given based on the defensive player flopping.

About 5-10 years ago the high school rules committee wanted the flop cleaned up. We started handing out technical fouls when the kids were doing it and it really cleaned things up. Players realized that if they flopped they were going to get one of their two technicals and it really helped calling the block charge because you didn't have to fight through wondering if a player was really contacted or not. It cleaned the game up a lot.

As for the officials not being able to determine faking:

I have seen players falling backwards a good 10 feet before there was any possibility that there was contact. I have seen players bang heads off the floor when there was a good 3 feet of air between the players. If you call the obvious the intermediate stuff will clean itself up. If you as an official are unsure, call a block you still have that possibility.

Posted on: 5/19 10:40 am
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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You must be talking about this person:


Hahaha!

Yes. The left quickly forgets about that when they like to blame everything on Bush. I think that a lot of Democrats will have trouble distancing themselves from that vote.

The other thing that the left forgets is that Bill Clinton is the one that gave us this gem:

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To weaken Saddam Hussein's grip of power, Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law on October 31, 1998, which instituted a policy of "regime change" against Iraq, though it explicitly stated it did not speak to the use of American military forces.


So I wouldn't be so sure that IF he had the public support to overthrow Hussein he would not have done so. George H. W. Bush would have liked to overthrow Hussein but realized that there just was not widespread support for doing it.

The only thing that will save them is the Republicans lining up to throw Bush to the wolves by saying how "They wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq."

Posted on: 5/18 6:55 pm
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Re: 2014 Hottest Year on Record
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Who knew these bastards were to blame?


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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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One thing I can all but assure you...Hillary will not be the next president.


OUCH! This will seal the deal. I saw no way that a Senator with absolutely no experience in federal office other than running for federal office would be able to defeat a war hero with copious amount of senatorial experience. I all but said the same thing about Obama in 2008.

Posted on: 5/18 11:36 am
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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Oof...I did. It was easy compared to graduate level finance. That sh!t was really hard for me. Still got an A-.


AWESOME! I made a B. I did well on the tests but I was given a poor mark on my project which was to "play" central banker for Japan. This was during the mid 90s. It was my assignment to fix the poor showing of the Japanese economy. I wrote my paper and I made my verbal defense that I would increase money supply in the economy to stimulate inflation. My target inflation rate was to be 3.5-4.5%. At this time the Japanese economy was in arguably deflation. When I got to the stimulation of inflation you could almost see my instructor's head explode (She was a former Fed economist). She was livid at me about this. I mean she ripped in to me which shocked me. When Bernanke announced in 2008 or 2009 that the Fed was targeting a positive inflation rate to protect against deflation and to attempt to spur consumer demand I wanted so bad to send her an email that said " Suck it! I was right!" LOL But she probably wouldn't have even remembered me.


I also was going to have a law enacted to force the Japanese banks to recognize their non-performing loans. When Bernanke implemented Quantitative Easing I thought. "WOW! That was what I needed in my presentation!." What a great idea to get non-performing debt off the banks books and get lending moving again.

I think I made a C on my presentation, mostly based on her comment that "No central bank would seek to inflame inflation at any level for any reason." So I accepted that.

I agree that there is really nothing ground breaking about macro economics other than when you attempted to calculate arbitrage opportunities using interest rates, exchange rates and expected inflation. It just took time to calculate.

Derivatives was on of the most difficult from a mathematical point of view. I could actually remember Black-Scholes by heart at one time.....but not any more.

EDIT....OOPS I forgot to ask Eer_4da_beer, have you read anything in my posts that is BS from an economics standpoint? Other than the real areas where economists have arguments.

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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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You raised a straw man as if It were my argument then argued against it. That is what I meant by arguing both sides. Now you are misrepresenting the discourse to try to rationalize your behavior.


OK. I tried to hold out an olive leaf and you are just being too much of an asshole so here it is.

You stated:

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The economy won't be fixed until the right recognizes that trickle down economics has negative consequences on the economy.


Further you post a link to an article stating "trickle down" economics is a misguided policy which stunts economic growth.

One can only assume from this that you would like the implementation of "trickle down" economics to be reversed otherwise why would you even bother making the statement that the "right" needs to understand about the policies.

The CENTRAL tenets of trickle down economics are:

1. tax reduction on business and CORPORATIONS.
2. Tax reduction for investment type operations (ie. dividends, capital gains, etc.) for individuals.

The actual term for "trickle down" economics not the derogatory term is SUPPLY side economics. It works on the SUPPLY side of the supply/demand curve. Who is on the supply side of the supply/demand curve? Corporations and big business. It also works on the SUPPLY side of the IS-LM curves. This is the investment/money supply side. Thus the tax breaks for investment operation.

So IF you espouse reversing the policy then you espouse reversing the 2 basic tenets stated above. If you don't espouse reversing the 2 tenets listed above then why would you bother posting articles about people espousing reversing the policy.

Finally, as to my "lack of historical perspective" do you have any clue why supply side economics was even chosen as a policy during the 80's? Because during the 70's we attempted demand side economics methods to stimulate the economy over and over and they DID NOT WORK! Further, they not only DIDN'T work they mired us in the same poor growth but with raging inflation. So those who are so quick to dismiss supply side economics as something that doesn't work is just plain wrong. It did help in the 80's and it will help anytime there is a supply shock to our economy...as in the 70s with the oil shock and the corn shock.

Do I favor the current tax system? It isn't all bad. It could be improved, the move back to the 39% as the top bracket was a good move. It might be nice to do something to capital gains but I in order to be fair about it needs some thought. It needs to handle inflation into long term capital gains. I really think that is what was attempted when the rate was reduced it just doesn't work well but it is simple.

The article states that supply side economics cost the US 6% in growth. Over 30 years we have 6% less growth I have a hard time believing that a person could make that type of assertion especially with the fact that I think the loss of our manufacturing cost WAY, WAY more than 65 growth in our economy.

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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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It speaks for itself. You didn't ask a question to me. You raised a straw man as if It were my argument then argued against it. That is what I meant by arguing both sides. Now you are misrepresenting the discourse to try to rationalize your behavior.


I find it funny that someone like you gets in such a snit when people disagree with you. You are maybe one of the biggest babies on here I have ever seen.

You go right on believing what ever you want.

Posted on: 5/15 10:14 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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By the way, this is an example of me calling you out on your bullshit. You are full of it.


So I suppose you are going to try to tell me you have ever taken a graduate level macro economics course? I have have you?

Posted on: 5/15 10:11 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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That's why Eers thought that you were assuming he took that position.


Actually, I don't really think Eers takes ANY position. I think that is evident by the amount of time he spends arguing with people and people have a problem elucidating his position. His points are always very slyly spoken such that no one can pin him down on any point.

Feel free though to explain his position if you can. Its a fun game really. Just like trying to connect the three houses with gas, electric and water without crossing utilities.

Posted on: 5/14 3:28 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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If you're really asking a question with the goal to get an answer, you don't do that.


Oh, so I am bound by these rules but no one else on here is? That seems reasonable. Just because you answer a question which you pose doesn't mean the answer is yes. Not at all. It just saves time rather than having to wait and be on another page and at a distance from the original question. I have done this before on here and half of the people lose track of the conversation/don't read the history so I (and others) will continue to try to keep like items in the same place.

I don't really think any of us want to go down that road because I will spend my time calling people on answering questions before they wait for an answer.

Shoot, there are people on here that won't even answer a question and take a stand.

Posted on: 5/14 3:16 pm
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Re: What's your take on the current state of the economy?
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Pretty sure that's where the confusion lies. When you ask a question, you typically let the other person answer it.


Like this nugget from earlier in the thread?

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Do you even know what thread you're in? Obviously not.



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