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Re: UCONN in PR Championship game
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I think that "non-bracketed Round Puerto Rico Tournament" just means it's not part of that tournament, even though it's worded pretty awkwardly.


I see what you mean. Yes, that was worded awkwardly and it would have been clearer, I think, had they put nothing beside it. I assumed it was affiliated with that tournament. The note lead me to believe that it WAS a round of the tournament.

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Re: UCONN in PR Championship game
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just our of curiosity, what would have happened if we had played them in the tourney? Would we have still played them again a week later since we were already scheduled to?


I don't think so. I think we would have played George Mason maybe. It says on the WV Sports web-site "Non-Bracketed Round Puerto Rico Tournament). So I think we would have played the same team from the other side of the bracket. Others can correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: According to SI.Com NCAA might not let any Miramar kids play
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For some guys they work all year to qualify. Coaches know where kids stand, some are close to making the cut, others are far off. I know coaches keep tabs on a kid who is close but cut the ones who aren't close loose.

I'm not sure if anyone lets kids "greyshirt" anymore. I know the SEC and ACC don't allow it anymore. That is essentially a redshirt year, a kid gets into college and has to make the grade and prove they are on track to graduate in 5 years. If they can come in and maintain a 2.0 or higher GPA and progress towards a degree in 5 years or less they get to play the 4 years after the greyshirt.


I think that the Big East was the last of the BCS conferences to ban partial qualifiers. I think none of the big 5 allow them.

Posted on: 11/21 12:01 pm
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Re: muschamp
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But "lights out?"

Not really, or we would have won the game.


Being devil's advocate here, holding the #12 team in the country to 19 points is pretty good. I would agree that I might not go to the extreme of saying "lights out" but that is pretty good especially when the opponent is given the ball by our offense close to the red zone to start out. I think that the defense played pretty well with the exception of the D-Line who needed to do something they don't do well and pressure the QB.

Posted on: 11/21 11:54 am
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Re: muschamp
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Dear Moderators:

This post is Plaintiff's exhibit #1 as to why noobs should not have the right to start a thread until they have at least 100 posts.

Please consider this evidence and Plaintiff's Motion for Summary Judgment.

Respectfully submitted,

LesterBoy


Can we turn this into some sort of class action suit? Notice I didn't reply to the actual post.

Posted on: 11/21 11:51 am
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Re: Has Dana lost this team?
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Well..........what do you think now....


Actually, I don't think I saw anything last night that led me to believe there is a lack of effort or not caring. Here is what I saw (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I would like to hear them):

1. You can't make the mistakes in the numbers we made and beat very many teams. You eliminate those mistakes and we win comfortably.

2. Deforest gets a lot of crap and I am the first one to say that he is overpaid....BUT...The punt return for a touchdown HAD to be a botched punt. There was no one on the side of the field that the score happened on.

3. I can't believe you have to tell a kid that when he decides not to catch a ball in the midst of multiple opponents that he should get away from the ball. I saw Dana tell him this on the sideline. I was amazed at how calm Dana was telling him this.....I would not have been.

4. Related to 2 and 3 above....How is it that 5 of our punt blocking team simply got beat by their man on the fumble. i understand we went for the block so they would be outnumbered but EVEN the guys that our guys WERE BLOCKING blew past them. If upfield blockers don't even touch their man I have little hope we will ever fix our special teams problems

5. Bill Snyder showed you how to beat any team last regardless of your talent level and theirs. Simply make fewer mistakes on defense than the other guy. We had a pass in the middle of the field that if the guy doesn't make a one on one tackle we score a touchdown maybe. He made that tackle. We don't consistently do that they did.

6. This crew performs like the late days of Nehlen and the early days of Rich. They make stupid mistakes week in and week out and we don't ever learn from them.

7. Clint Trickett doesn't have it. I don't know if he is playing a thinking game that none of his receivers are playing but it is evident that the receivers seldom do what he thinks they are going to do. When that happens....maybe it is time to change your expectations of what they are going to do. It helps no one to keep saying they broke the wrong way. I sincerely hope the problem is the cold weather and those gloves but even when he has open receivers he misses them.

8. We need a dominant nose tackle and one dominant defensive end. We just get little pressure on the QB even after a significant amount of time after the snap unless we rush 5. Our D-Line is very susceptible to the old fashion power football, two blockers at the point of attack.

I don't really see a lack of effort. I thought they fought hard till the end. I mean a team that gives up doesn't score 17 points in the second half. Change fumble on the 4 to a touchdown or a field goal. Change the punt return of KS from a touchdown to a field goal. We win the game. That was the #12 team in the country!

Posted on: 11/21 7:55 am
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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It shows that what WVU really needs is a better coach than Dana has been to this point.


You seem to forget two things.

1. Bill Snyder is as old as Yoda...maybe older.
2. Dana Holgorsen is not.

Check the records of both for their comperative coaching "ages".

After 3 years.

DH 21-17 .553
BS 13-20 .394

I will take DH thank you.

Posted on: 11/20 3:41 pm
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Re: According to SI.Com NCAA might not let any Miramar kids play
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I don't know how you could tell if the grades are legit or not ? I don't see a problem with the kids getting in. Except Durante. That will be a roller coaster from hell


If the NCAA Clearinghouse thinks the grades are bogus they can just weigh the test scores higher.

In the end ALL student athletes go through the Clearinghouse...even the ones with no problems.

If the kid is coming out with a 3.0 and can't get a 1400/2400 on their SATs there is a problem with the grades. Grade manipulation on a large scale can be found out. It isn't really that hard.

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Re: Coach Rumor
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Football Scoop says that inside sources tell them Doc is a serious candidate. I find that hard to believe but its there in black and white.

Posted on: 11/19 3:17 pm
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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Now I can't argue with that. But there have been several teams with lots of 5 stars that weren't worth a crap. Florida wasn't very good under Ron Zook, then had a run similar to Alabama's under Meyer, then sunk back again with Muschamp.


Would not argue with that one bit. At the same time, it makes the evaluation of coaching easier in my opinion. I couldn't in good conscious ever argue that Mac Brown should have stayed at Texas because, his teams underperformed the last few years...badly. Think about Alabama under anyone not named Saban or Bryant. There are a number of coaches in there that are VERY forgettable. If you can't win at Alabama, you aren't a good coach.

The same can be said for Zook and Muschamp. As the Florida AD said....It was tough to fire him he is such a nice guy. Unfortunately, maybe that is the problem. In the end, the stars tell you what you have with raw talent. If we don't consistently beat Kansas State starting now I would have to say that I would have real reservations about DH.

Posted on: 11/19 12:51 pm
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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eatschmitt,

Texas has won a national championship since.....well....any team that hasn't had 5 star recruits.

Here is the list of National Champions since 2000.

2000 Oklahoma
2001 Miami
2002 Ohio State
2003 LSU/USC
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2011 Alabama
2012 Alabama
2013 Florida State

So Florida and Texas do indeed have 4 star athletes and an 11-9 record but also almost 25% of the national championships in the last 13 years. How many National Championships does Kansas State have? Can you see one program in that list above that isn't stacked towards 5 star athletes and/or can not trace their success to previous year recruiting classes in the top 10?

Give Charlie Strong some time. You will also find it doesn't take as long to turn around a program full of 5 star athletes as it does to turn around say....Louisville.

On a lighter note, I just checked vegas and we are a 2 point favorite. Imagine that! I don't see it but that is the way the betting is going.

Posted on: 11/19 12:34 pm
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Re: Ferguson
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The cop won't be indicted. The second thing I am pretty sure about is that while there will be some trouble from Ferguson the majority of the really bad stuff will be by people NOT from the area.

That is where I fault Sharpton-likes. (I didn't follow this too much so I don't even know if he was there) They go off like a half cocked gun, stir up people with no facts and then slink away.

Wheelert, I am with you. As soon as I heard the announcement of a state of emergency I know which way this is going.

If there is NO indictment the people, like CNN, who stirred this up should apologize to the people of Ferguson.

Posted on: 11/19 10:03 am
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Re: Ferguson
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Betcha a dollar to a donut he isn't indicted.



Hahahahahahaha! I see what you did there. Donut.....policeman......classic!

Posted on: 11/19 9:59 am
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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Stars mean nothing...nothing!! Jason Gwaltney was a 5 star and Steve Slaton was a 3 star. Those stars are nice to look at in the offseason but they are absolutely not a measure of talent on the team.


Here we go again....

Instead of rehashing it all again in a scientific manner and not an emotional manner, can someone just post a link to the dozens of other threads that have ended in the stars don't matter argument.

To summarize what someone else will link....There is a high correlation between stars given in high school and future attainment in football. The numbers are pretty straightforward and non-controversial. While you can say this or that about an individual, the number of 5 star individuals that make it to the NFL FAR outstrips coincidence. The same is true for 4s, 3s, 2s and 1s. Stars matter as a judge of talent. It isn't perfect but it does matter.

That is what makes guys like Snyder and Nehlen stand out in my opinion as coaches. They take guys that aren't great and get every last ounce of ability out of them.

Posted on: 11/19 9:38 am
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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I red shirted a year and was given a medical red shirt. 6 years.

The medical red shirt was: torn liver.

Posted on: 11/19 8:14 am
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Re: Early Top 9 for Playoffs
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If Baylor and TCU win out, isn't Baylor the conference champion?


If both Baylor and TCU win out and the selection committee were to take TCU, that would be a real kick in the gut to the whole "One, True Champion" campaign, huh?

Posted on: 11/18 3:57 pm
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Re: WVU Rifle - Still #1
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Competition shooting is a lot different, then what most armed forces train to. I've never been in the armed forces, so I don't know exactly how they train. I have tried a little competition shooting, it's weird, and I did get my A$$ handed to me by military snipers. However, a friend of mine, won numerous shooting tournies, within the army, and couldn't even sniff our team.

Plus does this look like anything the army would carry?


Yes, The target in competition shooting is pretty small. For the armed forces....let's just say...left subclavian artery or right atrium.....who gives a crap...target neutralized. In competition shooting that is the difference between 1st and last place.

Oh....and in competition shooting the target doesn't rush you and shoot back.

Posted on: 11/18 2:27 pm
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Re: Coach Rumor
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f some of you will recall Kiffin has already been a HC in the SEC.

I would be seriously surprised if Florida were interested in him.


I agree completely. Kiffin was the poster child of a young coach that was elevated before he was ready. He had a great pedigree and appears to be talented but he needed to learn his craft under knowledgeable people more before going off on his own.

THe funny thing about the way up. It only happens one time at best and if you aren't ready you don't get another shot.

Posted on: 11/17 2:25 pm
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Re: A look back on the bye week
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I predict similar or better ratings for the unc duke football game on espn.


You might get more ratings. I hear UNC is giving out a free Afro-American Studies degree to each viewer.

Other than that I have no reason why anyone would pick that game over K-State-WVU and I would say that if it were K-State-Texas instead of us.

UNC and Duke sucks as does ALL of the rest of the ACC except for Florida State and they may suck too. We just don't know because they haven't played anyone yet.

Posted on: 11/17 12:15 pm
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Re: Coach Rumor
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A lot of dominoes would have to fall for him to be considered. First, he does have experience at high profile jobs. Its true that he was at the helm of a USC program that went to hell. I won't make excuses for him but he probably took on too much too soon. He's a good enough offensive mind that Sabah wanted him on his staff. The fact that he is now apart of the Sabah coaching tree is going to make him a desirable commodity if not this year, then in the very near future. His recruiting has always been good illegal and he's a big name and the cute girls he gives the recruits that would make a splash. Everyone will be talking about Florida again, more so than if they hire a coach from Marshall. In today's CFB landscape I don't think you can underestimate that. Exposure means $$$. Like I said, he's a dark horse pariah candidate, meaning a long shot but I thin you could hear his name mentioned should the top candidates pass.


FIFY

Posted on: 11/17 11:36 am
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