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Re: Women's Soccer
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SWEET!

Looks like top drawer has WVU ranked #1 this week. Have we ever been ranked #1?

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/colleg ... r-national-rankings/women

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Re: I have good news and I have bad news
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OSU lost to Central Michigan and Kansas lost to Ohio U.


Now to reveal the true horse crap behind instant replay.

We NEED instant replay to make sure we get the calls right.

Oh blatantly misapplying a rule during a game? Can't do anything about that. Seriously?! I spend now hours of my life every year to have some guy decide if he or she can see some arcane smidgeon of evidence to see if that foot got in or did that ball pop out. This would be so simple to fix....Game ends OSU wins. The rules can fix this. It isn't like this situation happened at the end of the first half which would be more difficult to fix.

How in hell's name 25 officials on the field didn't know that rule I have no idea. We basketball officials get bitched at but if we had 15 guys officiating the game there wouldn't be a rule someone wouldn't know.

Not sure it matters to anyone. The misapplication of the rule was only one contributing factor, the other contributing factor was a majorly sucky OSU defense but for those fans that believe that officials "cost" their team games this is a case for being able to review the rules.

I always thought that if the penalty was not on the defense there was no untimed down. I guess that isn't the case.


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Re: Move along people, nothing to see here
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So you think giving something away with no strings or nothing expected in return is ok? Gotcha. You, my fellow mountaineer, are f@cked up too.



I'd rather just give someone $10 instead of spending $111 to protect $100.

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I still don't understand how the terms reached during a "secret" meeting are known for a fact.

Even if there's no monetary or political strings attached there's a social and goodwill value that can't be assessed instantly through numbers.


They weren't known but as time goes by you can infer what they are. When Iran goes to the World Bank with a attache case with $400 million in it in sequentially marked US dollars it doesn't take a genius to figure out something was up.

At the same time when they are testing missiles and no one is doing anything about it you can't really hide that.

Yes. Our "Goodwill" has all sorts of benefits. The whole concept for sanctions was to deter the Iranians from having a nuclear refining and delivery systems. When those systems appear to have increased in effectiveness it is kind of difficult to say we achieved our goal.

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Re: William Crest
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Well since we're on the race issue. Derek Pitts posted a prettt decent size post on Twitter claiming he didn't want to,play for WVU because it represented a state that is divided by race. Thus picking Penn state... Which I'm sure has its issues. But whatever


Everyone knows central Pennsylvania is a melting pot of diversity.


That and the fact that they don't care about the young man's race just that he is less than 15 and looks good in the shower.

Posted on: 9/8 1:07 pm
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Re: Aurora survivors owe at least $700k to Cinemark
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This is outrageous. In no way should they be on the hook for Cinemark's court fees.



I agree. This is what tort reform looks like in action. The Republican party has been pushing for this type of fee and cost shifting for more than twenty years chiding the avalanche of frivolous lawsuits, which actually don't exist. In federal courts and most state courts, the losing party is taxed the costs of the winning party, which does not include attorneys' fees. It can be in the thousands of tens of thousands of dollars for your average civil case, and higher for larger litigation. Tort Reform rules allowing for the recovery of attorneys' fees in addition to costs ramp up the risk of a lawsuit significantly and inhibit small claims and/or claims by poor litigants so that they don't have access to the court system. We can look to England for the effect on the court system because this is the rule in England.

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If people get injured at an establishment, generally the establishment is liable. If someone comes onto my property and gets hurt, I am liable.


This isn't accurate. Premises liability is a matter of state law. In most states, the property owner or operator is only liable if they have notice of an inherently dangerous condition on the property that caused the injury. For example, if someone spills ketchup on the floor at Chik-Fil-A, and someone else immediately steps on it and falls, the operator of the Chik-Fil-A isn't liable. They had no notice of the ketchup spill and no chance to cure the condition of the property. Proving notice is difficult, but some states allow for constructive notice if the dangerous condition was there for some time. In addition, the owner's duty is different depending on the status of the person on the property. Trespassers are treated differently under the law than guests and business invitees.

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I mean, Hesus Christos....a jury awarded $2.7 million in Punitive damages to Liebeck over spilling hot McDonald's coffee on herself. There are constant stories about the victims having to pay for criminals who get injured during the commission of the crime on their property.


The McDonald's coffee cup case is an outlier and is a bad example to use as an "outrageous verdicts" case. McDonald's had been sued several times because it's coffee was way too hot for consumption, but its marketing studies showed the coffee had better flavor when brewed and served that hot. Despite these severe injuries that resulted in lawsuits, McDonalds refused to put a warning on their cups. The lady who spilled the coffee required a skin graft from one knee to the other (through her crotch) because the coffee burned her skin so severely. She originally asked them only to pay her medical expenses and they refused. They could have gotten out with simply labeling the cups and/or paying her medical expenses, and they refused. People expect coffee to burn them, but not to the degree that they require a skin graft, which is why they needed to put the warning on the cup. I have no issue with that outcome under those circumstances.

I have never understood how criminals win lawsuits against their victims for premises liability claims. Makes no sense to me.

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How is it possible for an establishment that forcibly disarms you to NOT be legally responsible for your safety?


Negligent security cases are even tougher than simple premises liability cases. The general rule is that owners/operators are not liable for the criminal acts of third parties that occur on their premises. In order to be liable, they must have reasonable grounds to believe that the specific criminal act was likely to occur. That only occurs under very limited factual settings, such as repeated muggings in a parking lot.


Didn't McDonald's not pay this amount but negotiated a lower amount on threat of appeal?

I actually think the McDonald's thing was the not all that out of line. As you say, this was a debilitating injury. At the end of the day if this did that to the lady's crotch what would it have done had she accidentally taken a too big swig? Burn a hole in the top of her mouth into her sinuses? At the end of the day, no one could say that coffee THAT hot is safe for consumption. McDonald's, if they are making coffee for consumption is required to make sure that coffee is SAFE for consumption.

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Re: Stadium renovations.
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Could any of the problems in the stadium be because both sides are not finished yet?

I wasn't there this weekend, so I didn't see what was happening.

And the "chip reader" thing is a huge problem. What were they thinking? Hacker protection?


You mean the chip reader in the credit card?

If so, they were thinking that they should comply with credit card company directives and limit their liability for credit card fraud. After October 1, 2015 if you swipe your credit card and there is credit fraud the company where you swiped is liable. So the next time you swipe your card at some podunk grocery store that decided NOT to get the Chip reader and your information is compromised do you think that podunk grocery store will have the funds to protect you? Me neither....you will be "on the hook" for the fraudulent charges.

Posted on: 9/6 1:29 pm
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Re: Move along people, nothing to see here
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This just in...sometimes governments do things without Larry the Cable Guy's approval.

They may have done this knowing that it was the best option available. i know, I know...no negotiating and my-way-or-the-highway is the conservative way. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way.


Usually when you negotiate you get SOMETHING. Please explain to me what we got with the Iran agreement? I guess our best negotiating base is to get nothing. Gotta love those negotiations.

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Re: FBI Uncovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack
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Rice had one two!


Yes. The media would have you believe this was the truth but it is not. Rice DID NOT use a personal email account. Some of her staff did. She did not.

https://oig.state.gov/system/files/esp-16-03.pdf

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Secretary Rice (January 26, 2005 – January 20, 2009): Secretary Rice and her representative advised the Department and OIG that the Secretary did not use either personal or Department email accounts for official business. OIG searched selected records and did not find any evidence to indicate that the Secretary used such accounts during her tenure.

OIG received limited responses on questionnaires sent to former Secretary Rice’s staff. Two staff recalled printing and filing emails, and only one acknowledged the use of accounts for official business. OIG reviewed hard-copy and electronic records of Secretary Rice’s immediate staff and discovered that other staff who did not reply to the questionnaire did use personal email accounts to conduct official business.


This is what bothers me most about this story and the "journalists" looking into it. It is almost as if the journalists making this stuff up are on Hillary's pay roll.

They have a responsibility to report facts about this issue as people are attempting to determine a person's fitness for the office of President.....of which she is not but that is just my opinion.

EDIT: This is NOT what is at question here. If Colin Powell or Rice or George W. Bush or Obama or Hillary Clinton DID NOT adequately keep confidential and top-secret documents from being compromised and they intended for that to happen then they should be charged.

It isn't like I am on a party witch-hunt. At the same time if there is no evidence or the evidence is lost for Powell then so be it but just because you don't see Johnny speeding doesn't suddenly mean you can't hand out speeding tickets. The argument the press is making FOR Hillary is invalid.

Posted on: 9/2 1:02 pm
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Re: FBI Uncovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack
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Haven't looked into the Powell stuff, but if true, he's just as guilty.

Happy?


Sure, thanks for being consistent. I just feel that it is a non-issue in both cases. Neither had malicious intent.

I admit that her decision was likely much more politically motivated than his. Just not a deal breaker in my opinion.

That being said...if they uncover an indisputable email out of the new group that shows criminal wrongdoing: prosecute.


How about we just attempt to prosecute her with the evidence that we HAVE about statutes violated? Instead we make statements like "no reasonable prosecutor would bring these charges". What does that even mean? While I agree that they could do it or not, maybe it would be good to "set an example" here and try it.

I am not sure that Powell's email server issue rises to the level of Hillary. We KNOW that Hillary had both confidential and secret stuff on her personal server. We don't really know what emails he had. I suspect that a man who was brought up in the military knows how to handle sensitive data. Hillary.....apparently from her own testimony does not.

If her server was to be used it had to be vetted. She said it was. The person from the NSA says no and when asked how he would know stated "Because I am the only one that can vet these systems and I didn't vet it". She has lied more about this issue than anyone I ever saw. I swear Bill told fewer lies in his 8 years in office AND CAMPAIGNING than Hillary has about this singular subject.

Her claim is "I didn't know what the 'C' meant?" You believe that?! This is a person who spent 8 years as first lady, time as a Senator and being on the armed services committee and Secretary of state. She didn't know what the confidential icon meant? You are one gullible SOB right there!

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Re: FBI Uncovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack
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I said that to be a smart ass to stir the pot, but here is my actual opinion....The Emails had absolutely no bearing on what transpired in Libya,they were written after the fact..The FBI had to go through the courts to get the servers to release them, would`nt you think they were pretty secure already if you have to have court permission to get them.It`s not like she was sitting in some park selling information. Now don't get confused, I`m not a Clinton supporter but I`m not a HEAD HUNTER either.Why didn't this garbage come out before she decided to run for office ? It has only been an issue for the last 1-1/2 or 2 years.


Hmmmm. Let's take that logic to another level. We assume her emails were secure because they had to get a court order to get them. WTF?

A court order is no measure of security. A court order is a legal obligation of a police department (FBI, state Police, Sheriff, Marshall, etc.) to get something required for an investigation that is not turned over voluntarily by the person being investigated.

If there was something laying in your garage that the police needed for their investigation they would not just break in and take it. They go through the proper channels and have the courts order you to hand it over.

In my opinion, the Benghazi thing is mostly political. It shows she uses bad judgement but that is not something ground breaking.

The email issue is something totally different and is very valid. We can't completely blame this on the election cycle as there have been a number of slowdowns in the investigation. You would think with Lynch and the Dems wanting this over with they would have started earlier. At the same time, it gives her some sympathy points for her supporters.

The media keeps saying Comey stated that there was no basis for criminal charges. That is NOT what he said. He said that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges. Just because you can't win a case doesn't mean the perpetrator is not a crook.

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Re: Push for Buctober
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I would like someone to explain to me how the rules don't apply to the Cubs.

There were clearly 3 visits to the mound before Arrieta was removed from the game.

Four umpires and no one thought.....Hey the coaches have been out here before. Arrieta even tried to give the ball to Maddon.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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"WVU running backs coach hoping Rushel Shell ready to shock opponents"


Him and me both. Still waiting for that red hot recruit that went to Pitt to show me something. He's running out of time.


A guy I work with is a big Pitt athletic club person. We have talked at length more than once about Shell. He sees him as a player who had a lot of potential but just never materialized and saw him as a guy that couldn't hold onto the ball at the college level.

I was always giving him a hard time about stealing a recruit from Pitt and he always told me that he wasn't "missed" in the program.

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Re: Fukushima Radation
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How many people have died directly attributable to nuclear power?

How many people have died directly attributable to coal fired plants?

As for radiation that is escaping into the Pacific ocean this is extremely hypocritical. FAR, FAR more radiation was released into the Pacific ocean due to nuclear tests in the 40's and 50's.

I notice that no one focuses on the fact that much of the early reduced radiation is no longer detectable in the ocean. All of the hand wringing over the release of these isotopes....they are gone.

Here is a article from Woods Hole observatory. They do a good job of covering ocean research issues. This article dispels some of the hype. I am not saying this isn't a problem but it has been blown WAY out of proportion.

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=127297

This is an excellent case where we have an opportunity to solve a real world problem of containment. The Fukushima incident is redefining how we deal with these incidents and the book is being written as we go.

The end fact is that as Woods Hole states, no reliable study has shown a link to ANY dead ocean life. There is no predicted increase in cancer risk to people in the area and no one working at the plant has died.

We need to put this irrational fear of nuclear power behind us. We are exposed to radiation EVERY day. In Western PA our exposure to radon gas would put us in harms way RIGHT now.

In Chernobyl the readings in the average residence is about .2 micro Sieverts per hour. Most of us are exposed to about .04 micro Sieverts per hour. This is certainly more than background radiation. Is it dangerous? No one really knows. I suspect that given the fact that Fukushima's last exclusion zone is 7.5 micro Sieverts per hour is no one is going to notice .2.

The average home that has radon gas in it is exposed .14 micro Sieverts per hour and many houses are MUCH higher than .2.

Would I currently move into a residence in Chernobyl? No. Why? Because there are PLENTY more places to live.If there weren't I would live there and probably would be exposed to less radiation than in my basement.

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Re: I'm with Trump.
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If you vote Libertarian or another route, its guarantying a Clinton win. At least this way she has to work for it.


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I hear you. That is most of my reasoning for voting the other way. Anyone but Trump for me. So I'm going for the best way to keep him from winning.


This is the typical lunacy of the current two party system. The two party system builds fear in the masses by using this lame argument.

If you REALLY believe that Trump isn't a good candidate, don't vote for him! If you think you are "settling" for Hillary over Trump, don't settle!!!!

Vote for who you think is the best candidate! Will the nation come to an end if Hillary gets the election? Nope. Will the nation come to an end if Trump gets it? Nope. Let's send a message to both of the asshole parties this election! Pick a third party candidate and vote for them!

This is how stupid the American people are: 60% of Americans think we need a third party. NEWSFLASH!!!! That is enough to dwarf the people in the two party system!!!!!

That means that if 2/3 of these 60% vote for Johnson he will win in A LANDSLIDE!!!! So in effect you HAVE a third party option you just are afraid to use it! If you think Jill Stein is the answer vote for her. I like Johnson because he has actually been a governor. Do I like all of his policies? No. We will have to deal with his policies after he is elected.

Even if the Hillary or Trump win let's let them win with a minority of the vote. You know what would even be better? Let's hope neither one of the two candidates get enough electoral votes and turn the Presidency over to the Senate and the Vice President to the HOR. That way we can have Hillary as President and Pence as VP.

Do you think the two parties will be more contrite to the voters in the future? I do. Come on....send the message this election Stein or Johnson.....For love of all that is good don't let these assholes frighten you into voting for a shithead because he is the least objectionable shithead.

If neither Stein or Johnson float your boat, write someone in but don't put a jail bird or a psychopath in the White House.


It's classic divide-and-rule. People have been brainwashed into believing there are only 2 options...right and wrong. They pick highly personal subjects to accomplish this, and they win. Every.single.time.

Black vs White
2A vs Gun Control
Pro-life vs Pro Choice
Strait vs gay
Rich vs Poor
Freedom vs Safety
City vs Country
Government-run vs privatization


Divide and rule (or divide and conquer, from Latin dīvide et īmpera) in politics and sociology is gaining and maintaining power by breaking up larger concentrations of power into pieces that individually have less power than the one implementing the strategy. The concept refers to a strategy that breaks up existing power structures, and especially prevents smaller power groups from linking up, causing rivalries and fomenting discord among the people.






I stumbled on this. EXCELLENT (but LONG) read.

http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/1 ... n-in-the-american-public/

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Another one from them:

http://www.people-press.org/2016/06/2 ... itical-animosity-in-2016/




Personally...I find it very, very hard not to play their game.

You ask "Will the nation come to an end if Hillary gets the election?"

My answer to that is, as we know it, yes...it will. If she's elected, she will be in for 8 years...and will absolutely shred every bit of rights she possibly can during her term, along with appointing a liberal justice who will overturn Heller and effectively eliminate the 2nd amendment from the bench.



What does that mean to me come November? I'm still struggling with it.

Do I think Trump is going to "Make America great again"? No. I think he's pandering just as much as anyone. I don't, however, think he'll be bad for the country...unless he's a complete snake in the grass, which he very well could be.

My guy (Rand Paul) was never given a fair chance. I can say with integrity I wrote his name in during the primary...but I see where that got me...nowhere.


We have had the 2nd amendment with a number of Liberal and moderate Presidents. I don't think in any way that Hillary will get rid of our 2nd Amendment rights. Now do I feel that the Stanleys and eer_4da_beers of the world will eventually chisel away at the rights over the next 20 years? Probably?

I think that Hillary is FAR more moderate than Obama. If we kept our rights under Obama we will keep them under Hillary. We kept them under Bill, I don't really see things going any different.

The ban on guns is the Democrat equivalent of the Republicans banning abortion. A lot of hot air about the subject because it incites the masses but not a lot of movement. There was a lion's share of the time that conservatives held the majority of the bench. Was Roe versus Wade overturned? Nope. Its all just talk.

I am no lawyer but I think they have to do a lot more than overturn Heller to do away with the 2nd amendment rights. Those rights have been affirmed over the last 200+ years in Supreme Court rulings so I am not too worried.

At the end of the day Hillary has to overcome Republicans.

Oh....and I am hoping to send Pat Toomey from PA packing this year for his failure to confirm the moderate Supreme Court justice. As a result I am sure Hillary will nominate someone more liberal, probably.

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Re: I'm with Trump.
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If you vote Libertarian or another route, its guarantying a Clinton win. At least this way she has to work for it.


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I hear you. That is most of my reasoning for voting the other way. Anyone but Trump for me. So I'm going for the best way to keep him from winning.


This is the typical lunacy of the current two party system. The two party system builds fear in the masses by using this lame argument.

If you REALLY believe that Trump isn't a good candidate, don't vote for him! If you think you are "settling" for Hillary over Trump, don't settle!!!!

Vote for who you think is the best candidate! Will the nation come to an end if Hillary gets the election? Nope. Will the nation come to an end if Trump gets it? Nope. Let's send a message to both of the asshole parties this election! Pick a third party candidate and vote for them!

This is how stupid the American people are: 60% of Americans think we need a third party. NEWSFLASH!!!! That is enough to dwarf the people in the two party system!!!!!

That means that if 2/3 of these 60% vote for Johnson he will win in A LANDSLIDE!!!! So in effect you HAVE a third party option you just are afraid to use it! If you think Jill Stein is the answer vote for her. I like Johnson because he has actually been a governor. Do I like all of his policies? No. We will have to deal with his policies after he is elected.

Even if the Hillary or Trump win let's let them win with a minority of the vote. You know what would even be better? Let's hope neither one of the two candidates get enough electoral votes and turn the Presidency over to the Senate and the Vice President to the HOR. That way we can have Hillary as President and Pence as VP.

Do you think the two parties will be more contrite to the voters in the future? I do. Come on....send the message this election Stein or Johnson.....For love of all that is good don't let these assholes frighten you into voting for a shithead because he is the least objectionable shithead.

If neither Stein or Johnson float your boat, write someone in but don't put a jail bird or a psychopath in the White House.

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Re: Move along people, nothing to see here
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My point was very clear: both sides play by the same rules. One side works and actively votes to get corporate money out and the other does not.

Both sides are NOT equally sh!tty on this one. Sorry...the Republicans suck much worse on this one. Just a fact.


It shows to me that the Democratic Party Elites who favor getting money out of politics have no problems stomping on the First Amendment. I don't particularly like that. I favor making sure that campaign ads tell the truth. I favor making sure that when claims are made by candidates that there be some way to ascertain the veracity of those claims. We live in a society today that makes it so easy to test most claims. Even claims that are exaggerated. So I don't really see that big of a problem.

Money in politics is not all that big of a deal. Money in politics follows the same economic laws as it does in anything else in our economy....specifically the law of diminishing returns. Once you get to a certain level (a level by the way that in spite of the accusations about the Koch brothers Mitt Romney did not achieve in 2012) to get your name and message across to the number of voters you need to, in order to sway voters you progressively need more and more money and that money requirement goes up exponentially.

If you don't like big money in politics then vote against it in the elections. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who HAS the money and who is SPENDING the money. Vote against them. If that is what you feel is THE most important subject. I don't think that the money is swaying anything in politics. I think most people know who they are going to vote for in the 2020 election right now. I think that is sad but I would be shocked of much under 94% of people could not have their 2020 vote predicted right now.

That is the reason you have Hillary support right now. I have no idea how you could have a person that very arguably should be in prison right now like this guy:

http://www.startribune.com/sailor-fac ... on-nuclear-sub/390661021/

At the very least she should have her security clearance taken from her. I know people that work in the defense industry and if they wanted to take less secret stuff home to work with than she had on her email server they would lose their job.

The people who are voting for Hilary have decided that years ago. There is no information that could be given to them that would effect their decision so explain why we care how much money is spent.

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Re: I'm with Trump.
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What is a even a single based in reality reason to vote for Trump?

(other than not Clinton)


He supports the teaching of grammar and punctuation in our school system?

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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A number of folks keep saying OU to the Big 10 but as far as I can determine, OU is not an AAU member.


Neither is Nebraska.

Don't let the Big Ten fool you with its "education concerns." If it can add Oklahoma, it will. It would boost the Wester Division in football, add a lot in other sports and bring in a shitload of money.


Nebraska WAS an AAU member when they entered the Big 10 and leading up to it.

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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In the future, it is NOT going to be about conferences, per se, but about matchups. This will especially be true if the playoff expands to greater than 5, like to 8. I suspect this will happen in 2025 at least. I hope it happens earlier. That would really throw a lifeline to the Big 12. A guaranteed "in" to the playoff might keep OU and Texas in the league. If the Big 12 loses credibility it will be easier for them to leave and the league fold.

There will be no reason to get a "footprint" because you will be paying for streams of your games. There will be no advantage for picking Missouri because it is the thirty-'leventh largest television market that still uses rabbit ear antennae.

The issue will be, do people want to see this team play. By and large there are some people in Missouri that want to see them play but it is wrong to believe that most of Kansas City and St. Louis want to see them play.

While Mountaineer fans are a smaller market than many other schools, our fan base is pretty darn passionate as can be seen by our support at bowls. Major conferences will want our inclusion.

It would not surprise me that in the future the power 5 conferences don't think about kicking out members. I think in the next round there will be a reshuffling.

Posted on: 8/18 10:53 am
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Re: I'm with her
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Oh, I assure you, Hillary is NOT a PATHOLOGICAL liar.

She benefits from every one of the lies she tells.

I find it humorous that people want a politician that tells it like it is. Then Trump comes along and regardless of what I think of him as a candidate he definitely tells it like it is.

Then the press runs with it and takes it to the highest level of stupidity.

I find it humorous when those on here talked about the "fake" outrage of Obama not attending Scalia's funeral. Now we have Trump saying things, the media completely making things up, and then being outraged at what Trump says.

It is hilariously hypocritical.

I would say between the two of them Hillary or Trump, at least Trump provides entertainment. Hillary is just a complete snake in the grass. I have never seen anyone stand for less than the Clintons... both of them. She wants the office, the fame, and most importantly the speaking fees.

I doubt she could give you a prioritized list of things she will do as President. Her current list of things she would do is carefully calculated to give her the most votes she can get without actively contradicting herself.

At the end of the day...she will do nothing or next to nothing.


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