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Re: SETH RICH, slain DNC staffer, evidence found he had contact with WikiLeaks
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It actually started when Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC for leaking emails to WikiLeaks after the DNC fucked Bernie Sanders over. I hate Sanders. Rich was a huge Sanders supporter. But most important a patriot. What he did will never be forgotten and his death will come to light soon.


Pretty sure his death has already come to light. I am certain practically everyone has heard about it. I am just amazed at how many people the Clinton's are to have killed. One would think that no one would work for them since practically everyone that works for them is bound to get killed by them at one point or another.

Not that anyone this deep in tin foil would care but here is a snopes article addressing the myth. Notice that the myth here is not that Hillary murdered him. You can continue to believe that he is another of the countless bodies that the Clintons have had to dispose of. You just can't credibly make the case that she did so due to wikileaks.

http://www.snopes.com/seth-rich-dnc-wikileaks-murder/

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Trump was right again. Study funds that millions of illegals voted in past elections.

http://www.justfactsdaily.com/substan ... legally-in-u-s-elections/

http://www.oann.com/new-study-million ... -voted-in-past-elections/

The failing NYT calling President Trump a liar but then agreeing with him.

https://i.redd.it/5q7i9xpgop4z.jpg


You recognize that the top part of the picture is the New York Times and the bottom part of the picture is the Washington Times? These are not the same news papers. Not that I have a horse in this race.

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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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EDIT: I forgot South Carolina leaving the ACC to go to the SEC


South Carolina was never in the ACC, they were Major Independent when the were invited to the SEC.


They were in the ACC from its inception in 1953 till 1971.

Posted on: 6/19 10:20 pm
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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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This wouldn't help WVU's schedule and travel, but what if after Pac 12's GOR expires on 2023, Colorado gets an invite back to Big 12, and BYU is the 12th team. This would probably be acceptable to ESPN, Fox and continue high payouts, versus say Houston, Cincy, Uconn, South Florida.

http://www.thepostgame.com/college-fo ... o-pac-12-big-12-expansion


I firmly believe a Pac 12 team would never leave the conference for the Big 12.

BUT in a scenario Colorado would come back, I would hope the Big 12 goes after Arizona State. That is a school that is a sleeping giant – large student body/alumni base, big market, lots of money. If they get rid of Todd Graham after this year and bring in a solid coach, watch out.

I still think WVU, Louisville, TCU and BYU should have been added for a 12-team conference back in 2012. But Colorado and Arizona State would be good additions (but unlikely).


I agree with you GONZOeer.

I will take it further. There is no AD that will leave another of the Power 4 conferences for the Big 12. Any AD that would consider that would be fired by their president long before they could pull the trigger.

At the very least you have to give me these facts:

1. The Big 12 has been far from stable over the last 20 years.

When was the last time that the SEC, PAC or Big 10 been rumored to collapse. For the Big 12 those rumors are almost yearly.

2. It is the youngest of the Power 5 conferences.

3. It has far and away LOST WAY more members than anyone else.

ACC has lost Maryland to the Big 10.

SEC has lost no one since 1966...They did lose Georgia Tech to the ACC, Tulane to who knows where and Suwanee to irrelevancy in 1940. It is safe to say no one in the SEC is clamoring for the door.

Big 10 - has lost the University of Chicago in 1946. Safe to say that the Big 10 hasn't lost any one.

Pac 12 - They lost the University of Idaho and the University of Montana in 1950 and 1959 respectively.

Now let's look at the Big 12.

They have lost:

Colorado
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Missouri

All of these in the last 10 years.

One would be insane to leave any of the other Power conferences to join the Big 12. At the same time, it appears that there is no way that there are two more schools in the rest of the non-Power 5 that could be added to the Big 12 to get to 12.

As a result we get to watch a 100% chance of a rematch for our conference title game when the selection committee has proven that it isn't even important to win the conference Championship or even to win your conference division to be included into the playoffs.

I am going to hate this December's Big 12 championship game!


EDIT: I forgot South Carolina leaving the ACC to go to the SEC

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Re: Ohio State opening/Huggins
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Relax people.

Even if Huggy leaves, there are quality young coaches waiting in the wings.

For example:

http://www.fightingfalcons.com/news/2 ... ens-basketball-coach.aspx





Just gotta keep him separated from the PNC Park beer vendors and Pittsburgh police.

On a more serious note. This is a great chance for him. He has been set up pretty good coming off a championship game team. If he wants the job in the future it needs to start with success at Fairmont State. FSU has been my second favorite college basketball team for a long time. I hope he is successful.

At the same time if it comes down to a quick exit for Huggins, I think the next WVU coach is already on the bench in Everhart. That is just my opinion.

There was a good article about how Duquesne messed up by letting him go and how he benefitted from it.

Here is the article I read.

http://www.thepointofpittsburgh.com/c ... happened-to-ron-everhart/

Posted on: 6/9 10:56 am
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Re: Thad Matta out at Ohio State
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Story.

The article notes that Matta will be 50 in July. I had to double check that fact (which is correct). He's just two years older than me. I hope to hell that I don't look as old as Matta.

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I don't know if anyone has ever told you but you look a lot like Will Ferrell.

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Re: WVU BBall Thread for Things that Don't Need their Own Thread
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I read it to mean that "The defender can then slide forward straddling this pivot leg" is indeed NOT a legal guarding position. It seems pretty clear to me.

If a defensive player straddles an offensive player’s leg in a way that prohibits him from making a normal basketball move — which now includes pivoting — contact that creates a common foul will be called on the defensive player.

I agree, the rule hasn't changed but they're clarifying what the "cylinder" is. It sounds like they're saying the imaginary cylinder encompasses all vertical space from any part of the offensive player, including an extended leg.


That is true now in college. The protective cylinder is now around the players torso and back so when the player is straddling the legs, more than likely they are encroaching on the torso. At least that is the strategy I see employed in high school where it is STILL legal.

I don't think that you will see much change at D-1. The NCAA is issuing this for all of its officials. The VAST majority of NCAA officials are guys doing high school and D-2 and D-3. They are the ones that need this clarification.

It may make some difference in the D-1 game but I doubt much. What bothers me is that I will end up working with guys that will apply this rule at the high school level and I will end up with a disagreement on this play when I explain that the college rule and the high school rule are different. You can't believe the number of times I see that in games. This is especially true with goal tending.

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Re: NCAA trying to delete Press Virginia
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http://www.smokingmusket.com/2017/5/1 ... -west-virginia-basketball

"Adjust the officiating guidance in relation to the cylinder rule. If a defensive player straddles an offensive player’s leg in a way that prohibits him from making a normal basketball move — which now includes pivoting — contact that creates a common foul will be called on the defensive player.”

You know now every team we play will coach their players to step between our defenders' legs in a trap.


This is not what it means. This is difficult to explain but I will try. What they are changing is the understanding at the college level is the idea that a player has an imaginary cylinder which encompasses him and extends to the ceiling. If a defensive player were to encroach in that cylinder the resulting contact would be the fault of the defensive player.

The rule hasn't been changed so I will give an example of what they are trying to get rid of.

The player has a ball and hasn't dribbled. The defender goes up just short of contact with a player. This is legal. The offensive player leans back or pivots keeping a foot on the floor but backwards at an angle resulting in the pivot foot leg being at an angle to the floor. The defender can then slide forward straddling this pivot leg and provided no contact is made can then establish legal guarding position on the offensive player's foot on the backside of the defender and the offensive player's body on the front side of the defenders body. If the offensive player then moves forward to stand up with sufficient force to displace the defensive player the resulting call would be an offensive foul if the contact resulted in advantage/disadvantage or incidental contact if no displacement or adv/disadv occurred.

The rules committee changed the rules in college recently to add the concept of a cylinder around the player. This reference in this article is not really a rule change but an advisement to the official how to call this particular play. The rules, I don't think have actually changed. The rules committee has seen that the officials are not calling the plays as the rule is written and intended.

If the defensive player already HAS a legal guarding position he or she would be legal and any encroachment would be the result of the offensive player.

The whole idea was to allow the offensive player the ability to start his or her offensive play. The goal being to try to allow for better defense/offense balance.

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Re: Repeal and Replace (ACA)
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I disagree. ... Universal Heathcare should be considered as vital to the american lifestyle as highways and clean water.


Health CARE or Health INSURANCE???

Big difference.

I bet you can't give me two examples over the last 50 years of people that were denied life saving health CARE.


Harvard said in 2009 that 45,000 people died every year due to lack of health coverage.

[url=news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/]

Now this may well be higher than actual as other studies have found a lower number. However, the fact is that studies have shown that lack of health insurance, apparently correlates to lack of health CARE because at the end of the day the person is still dead.

Even if the number is closer to the lower number published by the Institute of Medicine, the fact is that OVER 18,000 die annually.

This is why when conservatives march out the one person in all of Canada that suffered from the Canadian healthcare system we laugh because you will need 17,999 people lined up behind them to counteract NOT having any system in place.

The new healthcare system, without a mandate will be a disaster. I agree with others on here that Obamacare was a mess too.

SOmething has to be done about the root cause of healthcare costs rising like crazy. To give a simple example from my situation (I realize that this is just me but I can't help thinking this is ubiquitous when I have had this situation OVER AND OVER).

This year I am supposed to have a colonoscopy. No big deal. This is not a particularly cutting edge new technology. Colonoscopies have been done for a LONG time. Got a quote on December 1, 2016 for planning purposes: $950.

On January 1, I get the quote again to plan and the quote is $1060. That is an 11.6% increase!!!!! For shoving a camera up my ass!!!!! Now I realize that these fees are not negotiated EVERY year but they are negotiated frequently.

Add to that my premium going up 7-10% per year, that my deductible in 10 years has gone from $1,500 to $7,500 and you can see that the "real end" healthcare costs have apparently been going up more than the costs of everything else in our economy combined.

I have no idea where this money is going! My doctor bitches about the money he makes, the nurses admit they are doing pretty well but far away from %10 raises per year, the hospitals are consolidating because apparently they need to cut costs and the insurance companies are withdrawing from competitive markets because it is a money loser. Pardon me if I think SOMEONE in this little game is playing "dirty poker".

My suspicion is that it is the insurance companies because they realize that they could get ALMOST the same amount of money from customers with covering a lot less.

At the end of the day, I can't wait for them to get rid of pre-existing conditions. Then all the conservatives can eat crow when, at the end of the day, our health insurance won't go down as it supposedly should and we can all realize how badly we have been taken by the insurance industry.

With that being said if you don't have a mandate to buy health insurance you are going to have a big problem. People in my situation will not buy health insurance and "save" up elective procedures and then buy coverage when it makes sense. This will be a real problem for the Insurance companies.

EDIT: A single payer system is the only way I see to make it work.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I would suggest that Carter forego an agent and hire a sherpa.

I think they are more valuable in these situations.

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Re: List of campaign promises President of the United States, Donald Trump, has kept thus far
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And Obama appointed a guy as Secretary of the TREASURY that didn't even know HOW to complete and file his taxes ... without cheating.

And then he blamed it on Turbo Tax.


Plus, I am pretty sure he claimed his forehead as another dependent.

Yes. Geittner was far and away one of the worst appointments ever. Trump may have some that come close but...come on....to have a guy OVER the IRS that hadn't paid his taxes is beyond stupid.

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Re: NCAA Tournament Thread
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You stop it. They did call a foul on Philip because Gross backed his butt on him immediately after Carter hits a 3 (refs fault). They don't call a foul when Adrian greys hit twice for a layup (refs fault) and they took 15 minutes to review a play that should have been a foul (refs fault, would given us 2 free throws) that went out of bounds when the first replay clearly shows it was our ball. Both teams didn't have great offensive games but one team did get plenty of calls, no calls, and time to rest when they needed it.

And to that, you can attribute to the refs. So save your bs that the officiating didn't influence the outcome


When you are as successful making a basket as a moderate hitting baseball player is of getting a hit......you should probably not spend so much time about other people's "perceived" mistakes.

Neither team had a particularly good offensive game. REALLY?!! We shot 26.7% they shot 40.9%. That is far and away the difference in the game.We shot 21,7% from the 3-point line they shot 40%. That is the difference in the game right there. The officials....as usual....are irrelevant. Fix this and you win. It is much easier to just blame the refs than to accept your performance is horrible.

As for the "disparity" in foul calling....there were 26 fouls against Gonzaga and 25 against WVU. Your argument holds almost no water at all.

THe officiating only "influenced" the game to the point that making calls has an effect. I guess a better solution is to not have any officials and then their calls can't "influence" the game. We'll see how long you like that solution.

I watched the game. With the exception of the period to review the out of bounds call with Adrian it was pretty well officiated. People have to stop bitching and complaining about officiating every time you lose. The same officials are blowing whistles on both teams. I assure you you didn't watch with the perception of the Gonzaga fan. I am sure they had plenty to complain about too. I would say that I don't think that Gonzaga has an edge in perception to WVU. It isn't like we were playing Duke, Kentucky or UNC.

There are thousands of college basketball officials. During that round only 24 officials were working games. The assigners of those 8 games had their choice of ANY of the thousands of officials to work those games. Those are damn good officials. If you didn't like the officiating and think its a problem then its likely you will NEVER EVER accept official's calls. So:

1. Stop watching the games
2. Have them stop playing because the whole system is unfair
3. Accept that not every call will be made during a game.

Consistency is NOT getting every call right. There are plenty of times that calls are not made that maybe should be made. I have been a vocal critic of college officials calling travels. With that being said, consistency is the ability to make sure that the basic level of physicality is adhered to.

I would also suggest that if you don't like the officiating, a real good solution is to be part of the solution. The world is waiting for you to give your ass off your couch and get out there and show us all how it is done. While not everyone can be a athlete at the highest levels ANYONE can be a top notch official with the drive and work ethic.

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Re: Texas vs WVU big 12 tourny thread. No pushoff edition
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Can Adrian dunk???

Seriously??? Can he???

He should go HARD to the hole, clear out with his left hand, and THROW IT DOWN with his right.

And if someone sticks a hand in to block it ... the goal should be to break the defender's hand, wrist, or forearm; or better yet, ALL THREE!!!


What's the point. 2 points is 2 points


???

Were you watching???

His weak-ass layup got swatted away (TWICE) like a seventh grader against an NBA player.

He looked like a FOOL.


Phil Collins couldn't jump but if you all remember, he was tough as nails


Oh Yes!!!! The only basketball player ever to work as a bouncer, get stabbed with a knife and play the next game!

A mere flesh wound......

Plus...when guys on the other team seemed to be loitering around too much.....POW!!!! punch the guy in the face. He was a mucking and grinding hockey player trapped in a basketball players body.


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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Was this our first Big 12 Conference title in any sport?


Womens soccer, rifle maybe. I don't know off the top of my head.


Women's soccer we have won every year in the conference during either regular season or tournament and most years both.

In rifle we are in the Great American Rifle Conference. No affiliation with the Big 12. In fact, TCU is in a different conference than we are for rifle. The first time we will play them in rifle will be on the 18th at Ohio State for the NCAA Tournament.


Sorry...I was thinking about the qualifier on Feb. 18. They shoot at the NCAAs this Friday and Saturday, March 10 and 11.

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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Was this our first Big 12 Conference title in any sport?


Womens soccer, rifle maybe. I don't know off the top of my head.


Women's soccer we have won every year in the conference during either regular season or tournament and most years both.

In rifle we are in the Great American Rifle Conference. No affiliation with the Big 12. In fact, TCU is in a different conference than we are for rifle. The first time we will play them in rifle will be on the 18th at Ohio State for the NCAA Tournament.

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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Great going ladies! So happy you won. Just wish it was on tv to watch. I hope somebody will save this game for later watching. I want to see our ladies playing great BBall.

So happy to have the ladies win first. Now a national championship is next. Big12 championship someday also.

Big12 Tourney Champs is a great start.

The guys must be encouraged with the win and it may give us the added edge we need to win the close ones. I am sure B H is going to use this win to inspire his team. Competition creates winners and now the two may inspire each other. If the men win the tourney it will be enough for me for this week and I will be hoping and praying for our dreams to come to fruition with our NC.


It was on Fox Sports 1. Great win. They put a spanking on and then went into survival mode like the mens team.

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Re: Women's BBall
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I actually had no idea that college women played 4 quarters instead of 2 halves


They started that 2 years ago. Along with that rule change the women's game allows the team taking the ball out of bounds to use a timeout to move the ball to half court for an out of bounds throw in.


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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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I wouldn't be surprised if they named that guy from the Dr. Pepper commercials that is the embodiment of why uncles are annoying to be the official chaplain of the conference.



Actually, I was kind of hoping they would get that guy to be the new commissioner of the conference. He did have enough pull to get into Steve Spurrier's house. I doubt Bowelsby could find the house or be allowed in.

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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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Watch it in real time on ESPN. Phillip got the rebound.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400916254


I see what you are saying. My mistake. I thought from the looks.....that there was a foul on a rebound a little earlier than this play.

I will be honest....I don't think I would have called that a foul. I think my assumption is that we could go to over time and let the two teams sort it out in 5 minutes.

The earlier foul against Adrian was definitely a foul. He went across the guys body and hit his arms. That had to be called but a small bump like that, that was unassociated with the actual airborne shooter....I just don't think I see enough disadvantage to call the foul. He got as good a look at the basket as he would have gotten had he continued on.

With that being said, if you are a TCU fan you have no real beef here. That was foolish contact. He should have just let him go. I think a simple hand up when he shoots is enough. He clearly initiated contact. I am not sure how much effect it had on the play as I don't think he had a real good look at the basket.


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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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I haven't seen anyone mention that after Miles was phantom-fouled and missed the jumper, Tarik Phillip got the offensive rebound under the basket with 4.8 seconds on the clock -- plenty of time for a put-back layup.

Adrian was also there.


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I suspect that the foul probably happened before what you saw in the screen here. I don't really know. The "center" official probably saw something during the positioning for the rebound. The official held the whistle until it was evident that whatever had happened had affected the play. If an official can not blow the whistle then that saves everyone a lot of grief. Sometimes that is not the case.

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