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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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So is your stance that presidents don't deserve any credit or any blame for bills that are passed while they're in office? Is the really the view you are going to adopt now? We know that's not the view you held before this thread. But now this is what you believe?


When a President signs a bill that has more than 2/3 majority you understand that it doesn't really matter right? You know that? If he says no they override the veto. You understand that basic fact right? There were 178 sponsors to this bill. Pretty much everyone supported this bill. Are you trying to say Obama championed this bill through Congress? Really?

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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Ummmm....Jimmy Carter signed the treaty but Congress is the one that ratified it. Are you giving Carter the credit (or blame) for something that Congress did?!?! How do you decide which acts to give the president credit (or blame) for and which to give congress credit (or blame) for?


Just playing your game there Stan. I try to discuss on your level. Since you attribute all law signed in Obama's time in office to him I thought it would be OK for Carter.

Would you like to change your stance now? Did Carter do it or didn't he? You decide. All you have to do is say 'no' and we can get on to the next part of this argument.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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...that the nation’s uninsured rate had dropped 25% since the implementation of the ACA, representing about 9.5 million newly insured and a sizable drop in the number of uninsured 18-29 year olds. Of the newly insured, 58% reported that they were better off than before (only 9% said worse), and 75% said they were optimistic the plan would improve their health care (the number was higher for those enrolled through Medicaid). Even 74% of Republicans reported that they were “satisfied” with their coverage.


Then again, I'm only talking about results, not opinions about the law.


Brookings from the source of Media-ite? OK.

Once again....Many of the insured 18-29 year olds WOULD have been insured had the age been raised to 26 years old. That was the other item I was trying to think about above.

No Preexisting conditions
26 year old dependent
Insurance exchange.

In my opinion being able to get health insurance AT ALL as a single buyer is a win. You didn't need the size program you got.

Still.....10% say they will be WORSE off than before. That is pretty sizable number. 1 in 10.

I could not find the numbers in the article on the web site. I didn't read it for hours on end but it looks like they are just numbers about who has signed up not about quality of program.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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Ta da!!! Awesome!! It's a win for basic facts!


SO this is happiness for you?! Really?! The President only PRACTICALLY sits on ass all day and does nothing. You are bouyed by the fact that you can argue the fact that he does nothing.....And you barely win at that. For ****'s sake even Jimmy Carter gave away the Panama Canal. On a legislative level that is like running a triathalon for Obama.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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i wonder what he'll say if I point out the fact that Obama signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act which gives the FDA the power to regulate tobacco



Hahahahaha! Like tits on a boar hog. I guess you don't pay too much attention. Sign it, don't sign it. It wouldn't matter. It would have passed over his veto. So once again we give credit to Obama for something that the Congress most definitely DID.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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That is one way to be sure to win an argument -- just make the standard "whatever I think goes." You can measure a President's efficacy objectively by looking at what they set out to accomplish and whether they accomplished it, not whether you think it was worthwhile. Otherwise, your ideology is going to skew the results.


Skew this!

The fact is that even people who originally supported the ACA will admit that the people THEY were working to cover WON'T be covered and will be harmed. They can NOT afford 11,000+ a year for coverage.

The simple fact is that 75% of the ACA could have been handled NOT by a 10,000+ page law but by a simple law that would prohibit pre-existing condition clauses and ability to buy insurance on exchanges. Now we have a system that will land us pretty much where we were before. The fact is that a President should do things that make sense. At least to the public when the program is rolled out.

39% of people favor this law. That is not overwhelming acceptance by anyone. Democrats are the only people that support this program independents and Republicans hate it. Where is the usefulness in that?

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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By the way.....what is sillier is to continue to tell me how great a President is that has had 1 budget in 6 years.....then to blame the Republicans then to explain how much he and you know about government and how to "work it". That is pretty silly right there.

Show me a hot button issue that he has taken control of. Show me a world crisis that he has handled and hasn't been schooled on. Key-rist, the world is killing people right and left, even Russia is unstable, and he is saving $3.75 on student loans.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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This is silly. First, Obama and Hillary Clinton brought the issue of health care reform to the forefront during the 2008 campaign. After he was elected, Obama made it a priority and used his political capital to push it through Congress. He held Healthcare Summits at the White House and made Congress address the issue. This is how Presidents use political capital to get legislation passed. To say he did "nothing" shows a real misunderstanding of the way our government works from a practical perspective, or is just revising history.


I understand quite well how government works....or doesn't.

The TRUTH is that Obama did a great job of getting healthcare for people who didn't want it. He completely failed in getting healthcare to those who want it and can't afford it. The fact is that for the majority of people at and below the poverty line DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE because they can't afford it. Many are forced to pay the fine because the fine is MORE AFFORDABLE than the coverage for now. Soon, they won't have a choice.

Just because you make a law doesn't mean you have done squat. If you don't actually enforce the law it is a meaningless waste of ink on a paper. You make a program, good for you....if you **** up every part of the implementation I wouldn't tout my ability to "get things done"


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We seem to be having an argument over whether the ACA passed or not. And if it did, who passed it. As bizarre as that is, I can pick another example showing that he has, in fact, done something. He ended the student load subsides to big banks saving $67 billion over a 10 year period. He put $63B of of those savings into the Pell grant program to provide grants to low income students. Are we going to have a debate over whether this actually occurred or not? Or can we agree that this happened?


We shall see about this. In my opinion this will not result in help to student loans at all.

Look I am sure he is doing something. I mean he is in the Oval office for at least 4 hours a day 3 days a week he is at least making paper footballs. I was hoping for useful things to be done as president. When I say he hasn't done anything I mean he hasn't done anything USEFUL. I will give you that he has breathed, ate and bloviated.

But to tout success on a program that took 6 years to implement and was screwed up at each spot and missed its intended audience. Most rational people would call that a failure but you champion that fight....you go!

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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So we still haven't gotten past your incredible obvious flaw in logic. You stated that Obama hasn't done anything and then in the very next sentence you state what he did. So did he or did he not do something?


No flaw in the logic here. In order to do something you have to actual BRING something to fruition. He has not.....ergo he gets no credit for it. Logic OK for you pal?

5 frogs sit on a log, 4 decide to jump off. How many frogs are sitting on a log? 5 because just because you DECIDED to do something doesn't mean you have done it.

You will make a wonderful CEO or upper manager. Just make the decision and it is done.

Also Pelosi and her minions crafted the ACA. Maybe we should credit Hilary with the ACA since she started it.....Or Bill Clinton. How about Richard Nixon since he was the first to come up with universal healthcare. Yeah, that's it Richard Nixon did it....if those darn Democrats wouldn't have been so obstructionist and wanted to impeach him.


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In February 1971, President Richard Nixon proposed more limited health insurance reform—a private health insurance employer mandate and federalization of Medicaid for the poor with dependent minor children.[22] Hearings on national health insurance were held by the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee in 1971, but no bill had the support of committee chairmen Representative Wilbur Mills (D-AR) or Senator Russell Long (D-LA).[22]


My how times have changed.....or is it just the party.

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Re: Another Robotics Win
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I bet none of you have ever been to a robotics tournament and not one of you so called fans could tell me the high score of our robotics team or who we play. No wonder stuffaboutsports.com.net says we are the dumbest fans in the country.


I doubt that anyone on here could name the starting......how many ever start on a robotics team.....even more reason to discount the fans.

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Re: Another Robotics Win
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My lord, there are some cynical people on here.


The cynicism is indeed strong with this site. To understand it you must walk a hundred threads in the Soapbox. After detox and showers, you may revert to normal again......but I doubt it.

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Re: Another Robotics Win
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When was the last time anybody went to a Robotics game? Or bought a Robotics team jersey? Or wanted to knock boots with a Robotics player?

Nobody cares about Robotics! Football and Men's Basketball are the only things that matter.


Definitely! We shouldn't show pride in this at all. In fact, our showing pride means we are LOSERS! We must loathe that we won anything like this.

That is why Pitt Sucks. They cured Polio.....but that isn't Football or basketball, is it? Pffffft!

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Re: Another Robotics Win
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Yes. Morgantown has a great FIRST Robotics program. I mentor one of the teams here in Washington County PA. We have competed and collaborated with Mountaineer Area RoboticS (MARS) team. They are a team that has great support from the community and from the kids.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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Let's start with the facts. Do you not see a problem with these two sentences one after another? They both can't be true. You do know that right?


Really?! You are actually going to celebrate a guy signing his name on a paper once? WOW! Now realize that AT every point in which SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAD TO BE DONE it has been screwed up or hasn't happened yet. I value DOING over SAYING. Its kind of the way normal people are brought up. Unfortunately more and more of the world society has turned into marketing. Say something enough times and it doesn't really matter what you do. That isn't me. If you like it good for you.

He hasn't done anything. If you feel he has then I signed my name a number of times by the end of my first grade year. I am thinking I accomplished far more than Obama before second grade.

I would consider signing your name to be mostly nothing, but I guess when you want to support this guy it is SLIGHTLY more honorable than the constant its Bush's fault/Republican Congress's fault mantra.

By the way....it was Bush's fault while the Democrats held the Presidency and BOTH houses and now its the Republican's fault nothing get's done. We never take any personal responsibility. I don't want to put this all on to Democrats. They are just the latest example. It still doesn't make it right and as a Democrat I won't take up for them like you.

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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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I agree with the first part of that but...."in fact" he has done nothing at all? Ummmm...he did pass health care reform.


You are a lot like the morons in management at my company. He has done nothing. He passed a law 6 years ago. After that he has pretty much screwed up EVERY phase of the implementation of the law. He further has allowed a significant number of corporations ignore the law.

I wouldn't spend much time celebrating the ClusterF*** that is the Affordable Care Act. If you call that a success you are pretty deluded. At the same time.....THAT was 6 YEARS ago! It took this long to enact healthcare that was so badly needed.....for the children....who unfortunately grew up before the law was enacted. It was for the people that didn't have health care. In the end the people who wanted healthcare before STILL won't have it but millions who didn't want it will be forced to purchase it. You call that success?

Posted on: 7/29 9:50 pm
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Re: 101 Million Favor impeachment of the President of the United States
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80 million believe the sun goes around the earth. Want to guess if there is any overlap in these two groups?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2 ... und-the-earth-survey-says

Look, I can't stand this President. I do indeed believe that he is the worst President we have had in my life time and I lived through Carter which I believed to be the worst ever. I am NOT one of those people that just hate the sitting President. I am not fond of the Republicans either but as Harry Truman said....."The buck stops here." Except when you are Obama and an Obama supporter, then the buck was messed up by Bush before it got to him so it isn't his fault.

Should he be impeached? No. There is no reason to impeach him. He has done nothing impeachable.....in fact he has done nothing at all.

Posted on: 7/29 9:46 am
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Re: The 2014 Pirates - GO BUCS!!!
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I don't think that Tommy John surgery is for bad arms anymore. The number of Tommy John surgeries are astronomical. The data is in and after the surgery you have more stamina and more velocity than you had before.

Call me a cynic but Tommy John surgery is the norm now for all pitchers but a select few that have the natural arm condition to make it without the surgery.

The Pirates announced that Taillon elected to have the surgery done and Huntington admitted that the ligament was not torn. That is medical speak for Huntington said "Would you like to have a long career in the majors with excellent performance and reduced time on the DL? Here's a doctor."

No more PEDs so now we build our heroes the old fashioned way.....like Frankenstein.

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Re: And Now the JR WVRC Lawsuit Against WVU
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Now it all makes sense to me!!!!! Why didn't we see it before?

With the application of this law, WVU would have been forced to award the contract to the LOWEST bidder. Stroke of genius or was JR cornfused as to the direction of the bid. Here he thought he was saving the university money.....bless his heart.

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Re: WVU - Tennessee 2018 in Charlotte
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Not every use of a word is as pertains to law you know? While I understand that words within the legal system have certain exact meanings, those same words out of the legal system have expanded meanings. Since I am NOT in a courtroom I am on WMITC I put away Black's Law dictionary and utilize Websters. In that regard I utilized this meaning of the word:

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of, based on, or in the nature of trust and confidence, as in public affairs: a fiduciary obligation of government employees.


Luck, as a public employee, has a fiduciary duty (outside of law) to work in a manner that improves the economy of the state as much as is practical. I choose not to use the word secondary or indirect as it implies it is of less importance....and it is not. That is why I did not use that term.

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Re: WVU - Tennessee 2018 in Charlotte
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Lets keep in mind that Luck isn't responsible for the economic situations of Morgantown, he's responsible for the money generated for WVU Athletics.



Meh. Yes. Overall that is true. However, at the same time, Luck is a public employee at an institution that extracts a great deal of monetary support from tax revenue from people from the state. As a result, it is untrue that he has no fiduciary duty to the economy of the Morgantown area.

You think it is hard to recruit to Morgantown now, wait till the area becomes economically destitute and see how that helps recruiting. I don't think these games result in as much negative economic impact as some of the businesses say because if we didn't schedule Alabama or Tennessee or VT we would be scheduling Akron and have 30,000 people there so I am skeptical about the negative impact but to say he isn't responsible would be a stretch in the opposite direction.

It is the same thinking that corporate heads have no duty to their companies hometowns that is a LARGE contributing factor putting our country in the mess that it is in.

Posted on: 7/25 9:29 am
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