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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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I get that and yet you are doing the exact same as it relates to Obama.


Not really the same because you see....while Bush is OUT of government, the great statesman Obama was a serving Senator during this time but he was much too busy running for President to lead something useful in a Democrat lead Congress.

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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Financially, we are in much better shape than we were when Obama took office. What has happened financially during Obama's watch that people are blaming Bush for these days?



Lot's of people would debate that. I am one of them.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01 ... n-rate-plunges-1978-level

WOW! OK. So we agree that there is the LARGEST percentage of people OUT of the labor pool....RIGHT NOW as any time in history of the number. This would include 2007-2008. This is a good thing? How is this better?

We have the WORST GROWTH since World War II.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/ ... yes-we-should-be-worried/

The fact is that even those IN the labor pool are making poor wages. There is not enough growth in the economy (see below) to raise wages. Now we have this "great" idea to increase the minimum wage. This WILL NOT HELP the low skill worker. The only thing that will help the low skill worker get anywhere is when the economy grows enough to create a shortage in low skill workers and given that you have NO UPWARD wage pressures currently and a record number of people on the side with their thumbs up their ass I don't see any economic improvement coming ANYTIME soon. At least service men had deployment money coming in....now they are home with no work. Not really a mystery why they are committing suicide at such a high rate. Lives destroyed with little hope for the future.


http://www.heritage.org/research/repo ... allen-during-the-recovery

To say Obama mishandled it is an understatement but this article in the Economist is one that in my opinion epitomizes this guy. Don't blame me it isn't my fault.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democr ... ica/2012/06/weak-recovery

As an aside, show me one time that he actually takes the blame for anything his administration has done or more importantly NOT DONE.

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Re: So, about this Ebola thing...
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There will probably be 60 or so cases of Bubonic Plague in the US this year if it was like 2013. The Bubonic Plague is some serious **** right there. It changed the course of history. Let's wait to see if we have a higher number of cases than 60. I doubt we do.

EDIT: Ooops! I think I may be wrong here. The 56, I think, is over 10 years so it would be 5.6 per year. Still in the scheme of things 7 people died which is about a 12.5% mortality rate and I doubt that most people even knew it was happening. How glorious is the news.

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Re: So, about this Ebola thing...
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This has to stop.

It's like playing the bend don't break defense...eventually it's going to break.



We HAVE to stop people from coming back from high risk areas without agreeing to quarantine before they leave....it's a must.


Hmmmm. So you are telling me that 1 person in 8.4 million and you are ready to lock out the country? That doesn't seem prudent. 2000 people per day estimated travel from Liberia per day. How many of them came from a danger zone? Who knows? The fact is that if you can't run a medical system to cure it it is highly unlikely you will be able to track people around it. So you quarantine all 2,000. Because you realize that just because the person didn't come directly FROM West Africa it doesn't mean they can't spread it. Now you have 40,000 people in quarantine at any given time in a country ALREADY overwhelmed with problems. How many will come down with the disease AND DIE due to being quarantined? These are all serious questions that you have to answer when thinking about quarantine. There will be innocent people who die while in quarantine. Next, what happens if they catch it in quarantine from someone AND THEN travel. Makes the whole quarantine useless.

Are you going to spend 21 days in quarantine, IN LIBERIA with practically no chance of contracting the disease? I am not. I have spent enough time in third world countries that I don't spend 1 extra minute in them that I don't have to.


This is an illness just like other illnesses. People get them and transport them. You are not going to stop that. Education is the best course of action. The doctor monitored himself and when he was certain he was sick he went to the hospital. The hype around it is BS and aggrandizing by the media. When a number of these people are handled and we see that you can handle this situation with no epidemic people will relax.

One of the big problems with Ebola is the lack of disseminated factual information and the lack of experience in industrialized modern societies. Ebola has a 25%-90% fatality rate.....because it strikes in countries which have poor medical facilities. What is its real death rate? So far in the US it is 1 in 7 which is 14.2%. If this doctor gets better as I suspect he will that will be 1 in 8. That is a 12.5% fatality rate. Now you are getting pretty darn close to influenza. Are you prepared to quarantine people from influenza?

Avian influenza had a high mortality rate as did SARS and Swine flu in countries BEFORE it came to the US but when it hit the US the mortality rate decreased greatly. There is a reason for that.

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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Not sure how you can oversee something that started before you took office.


The same way you can take credit for its effects as your masterful stewardship of the environment, I would guess. While the recession was "officially" over the extended period DID take place when he was President and he did an extremely poor job of helping himself out. So we continually shoot ourselves in the foot and we claim success. Laughable really.

I find it funny that Bush was blamed for the resulting recession and the dot com bubble bursting even though the bubble was bursting BEFORE he took office but EVERYTHING that happened financially to Obama in 6 YEARS is Bush's and the Republican's fault. Selective reasoning there.

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Re: The 2014 Pirates - GO BUCS!!!
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Hey! Yay!

We signed Josh Stinson!



The good thing is we are only committed to a minor league contract and we could control him till 2020. But his is pretty marginal.....Get to work Searage....put lipstick on that pig!

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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This belongs in another thread, but things were looking pretty catastrophic prior to Obama taking office. What catastrophe are you talking about? The debt?

I'm not saying Obama has done great or even a good job with the economy (not sure what presidents can do about it to be honest with you), but he inherited a big pile of poo to start with and I just don't see a current catastrophe. Things sure aren't as good as they could be, but come on. We've been through a lot tougher times since the great depression.


No....Economically we have NOT seen a lot tougher times since the Great Depression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession

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The recession of 2007–2009 is considered to be the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.[100] and the subsequent economic recovery one of the weakest.


Furthermore, The percentage of the population OUT of the labor market matches the LARGEST in the history of the reporting of the number....and still we can't see any measurable influence on salaries or job security of workers.

Is the President culpable? Not entirely but at the same time his culpability is not zero and not negligible. Obama has failed at practically EVERY item that was thrown at him that could have helped the economy.

The stimulus worked. Unfortunately for Obama the Stimulus program was a Bush program (Enacted in February 2009 shortly after Obama took office) that Obama gets credit for. Smaller stimulus packages should have been enacted over the last 6ish years. Food stamp program's large increase was a good start but there are a number of other things that could have been done but our illustrious leader didn't do it.

Budget unknowns certainly has not helped our economy. The last couple of years were the first budgets we have had since Bush. The sequestration process was a COMPLETE FIASCO! Defend it if you want but THAT WAS A MESS. Now realize that 1 in 10 workers (approximately) work for the government in some capacity. How do you think the uncertainty of the previous 6 years have effected how they spend money? Do you think that is helpful for the economy?

I know what people are going to say right now so don't waste your time....The Republicans wouldn't let it happen....WAH WAH WAH. Grow up and be a President. LEAD! Our leadership albeit Congress and the President and the Democrats and Republicans SUCK but Obama just sucks more.

Even his own party people are busting on him. For the people on here constantly defending him, realize that many of your own colleagues think he is a poor leader and are now coming out to say it. How bad does it have to be before your "professional courtesy" gets set aside to criticize?!


The point relevant to this topic is that when you look at the WHY of the reduction in greenhouse gases you find out that the reason for it is:

1. The Great Recession's reduction in output resulting in fewer fossil fuels being consumed.
2. The abysmal recovery that resulted in NO APPRECIABLE UPTICK in fossil fuel consumption
3. Switching of fuel choice from coal to natural gas due to costs of each
4. Warmer winters and milder summers across the US overall that resulted in less heating and cooling demand.

How is the President responsible for ANY of those. The Democratic Party has been no friend to coal and really no friend to gas either....and whether you do or not I find it laughable and at least insensitive that someone would take credit for such poor performance from the economy during his watch and try to turn it into an ACCOMPLISHMENT!


EDIT: Sorry, I had 2 different stimulus packages confused in my mind. The Obama stimulus was negotiated during the Bush presidency but I am not sure how much impact he had and how much the transition team had. Maybe someone else on here can enlighten us.

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Re: Should we drop We Must Ignite This Couch?
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Might as well change it to wemustbethebiggestbunchofdonksaround.com


Hey! Good News! The name IS available. Who couldn't use an alias for when we kidnap Charlie Weiss and try to sell him to North Korean meat wholesalers.

https://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults.aspx?ci=83269



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Re: Should we drop We Must Ignite This Couch?
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How about you guys fight without copying the whole thread in every post? You're wasting server space.


Wow! I never thought in my life people could possibly generate enough text to be concerned about storage. I mean I am an old computer bastard and I remember when 16K of memory and 10 megabytes of disk space would set you back a cool $250,000.00

But today, Stanley could probably cut out 2 visits from the local ladies of the evening and we could store for posterity all of the inane drabble WMITC could ever generate.....even given a spastic Turrets copy and paste orgy.

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansi ... 1&keywords=5tb+hard+drive

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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What makes this guy a credible source of climate change research? The guy creates the Weather Channel and that makes him an expert. When will the founder of BET be chiming in on race relations in Furgeson, MO.?

What makes him even more of a hypocrite is that his Weather Channel consistently runs stories about AGW. It sells but I don't believe it.....however, I love this quote:


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President Obama told 120 world leaders at the United Nations climate summit last month that America had done more under his watch in cutting greenhouse gases than any other country.


Hahahahaha! What a jackass! So you oversee the worst economic catastrophe since the Great Depression and you take credit for cutting emissions. Great Job, Maestro!

Come on China and India, all you have to do is wreck your economy and YOU TOO can reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The stupid that comes out of his mouth ceases to amaze me. Am I jaded?

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Re: delete
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Delete Ebola. I'm sick of hearing about it.


I see what you did there....Well played!

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Re: So, about this Ebola thing...
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don't go making out with strangers


DAMMIT!!!!! Where is the fun in that?!

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Re: West Virginia athletic finances for state schools
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It's hard for 25 fans to carry the program.


Especially when their best use for their degree is as a mouse pad.

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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The laws of heat transfer dictate that every time you turn on your oven at home you start a thermal dispersion that only ends when a equalibrium temperature has been reached. So in short by turning on the oven you raise the world's temperature. Now obviously thats nit-picking but thats my point. We know we are adding to the problem but we don't know to what extent. Would the temperature in a world minus all the carbon be 2 or 20 or .002 degrees cooler? We don't know.


I think you may have hit on something here. It is something that I have thought about for the last 20 years. While the analogy of turning on your kitchen oven may well be a bit nitpicky, I think this should be thought about more than it is.

As I have said I work in the steel industry. I travel all over the world where steel is processed and manufactured. I don't think it is trivial when you realize that millions upon millions of BTUs per hour are expelled into the environment in at least hundreds of places on this planet. I have always wondered what the effect would be. I know that the atmosphere is huge but we are talking about opening a door to a furnace and trying to talk to the person next to me and being unable to hear due to the sound of rushing air and gas being burnt. This is going on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week , 365 days a year. Over some time that has to contribute something. That isn't even considering the OTHER industries that use energy on this scale. Aluminum smelting comes to mind.

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Re: CO2 levels now at highest point in human history
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Just curious...where is this data taken?

A thermometer next to I-95 is going to read significantly higher than one a mile away in an open field surrounded by trees.

Has urban sprawl been accounted for?


Much of the data lately has been taken from satellites in space that measure air temperature close to the ground across the whole planet at one time. That was some of the problems with data from the 90s if I understand it correctly. The satellites were taking readings and there did not appear that to be global warming and MANY (NOT a majority but a significant number) of climatologists took issue with global warming based on this inconclusiveness with the data. Then it was shown that the satellites had a small error in their timing and that they had gradually been taking readings at a progressively later time to the point where some satellites where taking temperature measures during the NIGHT! When this error was corrected later the data showed a marked warming.

Secondly, here is something that is known. Methane, and CO2 are gases which trap infrared heat. The more of this you have in the atmosphere the more heat is trapped. Sorry, but anyone that argues this is trying to argue that physics is wrong. You won't get far with that argument. This argument is PROVEN correct. Don't believe it? Look at what is placed between panes of glass in your house. It isn't CO2 because it is not THE most efficient gas but Argon is usually used to block infrared radiation from INSIDE the house while allowing sunlight at higher frequencies through.

Finally, my issue with global warming is NOT with the fact that it is happening. IT is happening and PRACTICALLY ALL scientists that are experts in the field agree that it IS. My issue with it is the models that predict what will happen in the future are poor at best in my opinion. In our other thread about this issue that I stated this fact. Some on here have pointed out that there are hundreds of models making predictions and that this is good. It isn't good if all of them are crap and not a single penny is being spent on validating ANY of them.

I write models for heat transfer through steel. We spend significant amounts of money testing the predictions of my models. Nothing was spent to test any of the first generation models and now we have the second generation of models.

The only paper I have seen on testing the predictive models was done by a Greek Hydrologist and his conclusion was that the first generation models of climate change were INFERIOR to using simple historical averages for a location. I will see if I can find the article and post it here.

Until models can predict climate better than a simple average I will be skeptical about the effects of climate change.

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Re: Dana to Florida !?!
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That means you are packing up and headed to Gainesville.


I will say this, if you are traveling with Sane returning from a game (or a bowl as it may be) you might want to check that his return ticket has him coming back to Morgantown and not to Gainesville......as the job he always dreamed about.


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Re: Guys I'm Back
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You lost to Kansas for goodness sake.


You do realize that we had a defensive back that couldn't lift his arms he was hurt so bad? We didn't have anybody left and weren't allowed to have all of our scholarships.

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Re: Had a great visit to Morgantown this weekend
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The Big 12 pretty much frowns on this now because our unruly tortilla slinging school in West Texas decided to storm the field, tear down the goal post, and then purposely rammed it into the visiting fan section seating.


Hook'em don't give our people any ideas. I think I just heard three people write this down, tear out the paper and put it in their pockets. In the old days they used to just take the goal post and parade it through town.

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Re: Had a great visit to Morgantown this weekend
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As i undertand it there was atleast one overturned this weekend.


Don't believe it. I saw a picture of one that was SUPPOSED to have happened in morgantown:

See if this is what you saw.

www.boston.com/news/local/new- ... s2KsPj5SaArPLI/story.html

I saw destruction and that is not good but I also saw police firing tear gas cannisters into the crowd of people and what looked like paintballs.

I agree with others on here. Let the students rush the field and carry the goal post to wherever and be done with it.

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