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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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Wow, this is just all over the place. By all means it should be investigated but those of us that think it should be investigated are morons?


Didn't call people who want to investigate it morons. Maybe you should read what was said without reading into the comments.

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As a 27 year IT professional, would you ever set up a high profile passthrough server with no logging or audit data? So when Donnie Jr. calls you at 2am screaming about his missing Russia email you have no data to cover your butt?

Of course you wouldn't unless explicitly told to do so.


Not an IT professional. I am a COMPUTER SCIENTIST. IT professionals are responsible for about 90% of the problems I have. At the same time it doesn't mean I don't know how networks work and how to set them up.

If truly top secret messages come through a pass thru server you won't know the contents of that message or even who it is from or where it is going.

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Sounds impressive. Source? Purpose? Why does this regular activity apply to private Trump servers?

Lots of words...not many that support your assertions.


It's how the internet works. I am not going to cite how the internet works. If you don't understand the basics of how data gets from one side of the world to the other side of the world I can't help you there. Maybe take a basic class on the basis of the internet architecture.

Lot's of secret data goes through servers that are unsecured. When I was an undergrad at WVU there was a computer system out by the airport that while I don't know the contents of the messages I do know that top secret data went through that system all of the time on its way to other systems. You do realize that packets on the internet are broken up and that the path that those packets take is non-deterministic, right?

I assure you that if top secret data goes through your system you will never know the contents of that data.




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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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In Kushner's situation none of the emails he sent were classified.


Please show the proof to this statement that you keep presenting as a fact.

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Since you can't prove something didn't happen how about you prove that there are classified emails. In order to be classified emails....they need to be classified. Do you have a source that says they were? Who classified them?

The New York Times article clearly shows government officials who state a clear difference between Clinton and Kushner.....but knock yourself out making a big deal about it.

If we want to go to this level are you trying to tell me that any government official doesn't occasionally send an email about work through their personal email? Yeah.....I am sure you are right....they never do.

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Baylor game day thread
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What do I have to do to stream the game from someplace or get a subscription to something that has FS2?



http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wv-wildlife

OR

Go to CFB Streams on Reddit. Links to are posted on game day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFBStreams/new


Thanks for the info!

Go Yankees! ......and I seriously hate the Yankees. Its like cheering for Pitt.

This will be my fallback plan.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Logan Holgorsen has committed to North Texas.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/ ... ts-north-texas-mean-green

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Baylor game day thread
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What is a "FS2"?

I'd like to think we beat the life out of Baylor but I'm thinking similar results to @Kansas game. Start off hot, let them make a game out of it, then close out a double digit win. 49-31 WVU.


That is Fox Sports 2nd sports channel. If the ALCS goes to 7 games the WVU game will get bumped to FS2 from FS1. I was cheering for the Astros but now I am cheering for any team that can end it in 6 games. I want to see the WVU game one FS1.

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Baylor game day thread
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I can go ahead and call it now. My luck has to be the worst. I am almost certain the Yankee/Astro series will go 7 games and I will not be able to see the game. What do I have to do to stream the game from someplace or get a subscription to something that has FS2?

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Re: Rest of the season outlook
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I'll just leave this here.

https://247sports.com/college/west-vir ... h-NFL-Draft-QBs-108815751

If he can go he should and will go. The minimum salary for a guy on a practice squad is $7,200 per week. That is $374K per year.

He will $155K if he just stays on the practice squad for the season. He has to do what is best for him.

I would suspect that he will be one of the 10 best this year. I don't really see him having that easy of a path to stardom next year. There are always reasons to wait till next year.

An athlete that is confident in their abilities will also see the risk of an injury. Do you really believe he will IMPROVE that much between this year and next? I don't.

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Re: Okie State Kickoff Time Announced
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I know I am going to be killed on here for saying this but....

Noon starts make the most sense for us. Any of the other teams the start is an 11:00 AM start. So I think we will be most likely to get the Noon starts. As long as we are on TV I don't care. We are on at 8:00 this Saturday and I may not be able to see the game because it might be on FS2 and I don't get FS2.

I think from a strategic position I would like to play at noon. I would just as leave have our opponents internal clock still in the morning.

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Re: Game Seven
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How did Baylor fall so far so fast?


Did you see who they hired to right the ship?

Can't think of a more blah choice than Grobe and then back that up with a coach from Temple. Let that sit in your mind for a minute......Hey let's hire a new coach.....hmmm......who's out there? Let's see Temple has been less than sucky lately in a conference that has had all its greatness taken from it. Let's hire him.

That is how you fall so far so fast.

After the investigation blows over they will make a hire of a coach that is a real winner and be back to competing again unless this whole idea of having the football program running amok on campus is overly objectionable to the people in charge. If that happens Baylor will go back to being the Baylor of history......suck every year with an occasional mediocre year thrown in.

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Re: Game Seven
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WVU - 47
Baylor - 28

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Re: Game Seven
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I'm hoping our team grew up a little bit during the TTU game. If they did, I think we out pace this team. 44-24

If we slow start, and take our time getting things going, I say we still win by 10. 40-30

We should be able to beat this team handily, however poor execution could keep things a lot closer.


Yes. I don't know what to think. They looked STELLAR from about 8 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter till the end of the game.

If they put together a whole game like that I think we should be OK. I hope that the defense is slowly coming together. With that being said the first half of the game Saturday for me was almost unwatchable. I know people on here had problems with the officiating but the fact is we were a non-fact in that game till halftime. Texas Tech more lost the game than we won it.

However, the fact is that we did step up when the game was given to us and we took it. You have to be happy about that.

Inconsistent play is a hallmark of inexperience. As the season goes on we should improve.

I think this week we should win easily. I think we will have a game that will not be as one sided as we may like but will never really be in doubt. I hope that is the case anyway.

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Texas Tech game day thread
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So did anybody get tossed due to the pregame scuffle? It was evident that TT players were throwing punches.


On the Mountaineer pregame show on the old Root Sports (ATTNET) they said their sideline reporter talked to officials and that no one would be kicked out.

College football needs to get these things under control. This is just stupid! Warm up and shut up.....Oh and WVU....if you are a defensive player just keep your mouth shut the whole time because you have no smack worth talking about. Just hope you don't look like a buffoon when the game starts.

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Texas Tech game day thread
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Why can't we return it?


Once the ball passes the line of scrimmage it is treated as a scrimmage kick....ie. like a punt. Since the ball was caught in the endzone the play is over just like a punt being caught in the endzone. Had he caught the ball on the field of play he could have returned it. In the endzone, no? goes to the previous line of scrimmage or the 20 depending on the previous LOS.

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Re: 'Jack says' official unofficial Texas Tech game day thread
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They aren't doing anything fancy. Our defense just sucks


No truer statement has ever been said.

No matter how good our offense is they can't overcome the absolute deficiency of our defense. Our defense is only slightly better than putting no-one on the defensive side of the ball.

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Re: Random anything goes non-WVU College Football thread.
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To be honest I really don't want Oklahoma to make playoffs, I'd root for any team but OU.
To me if OU makes it the likelihood they leave increases. If they start sucking like Texas is then SEC and Big 10, wouldn't be as inspired to take them. Big 10 wouldn't want another Nebraska situation and if OU is struggling in Big 12 then no way they could ever win SEC with Bama.
The other teams even Texas I feel don't want to leave. Texas likes being king and the other teams have no options.


Texas and Oklahoma are marquis programs. Whether they win another National Championship or not they are still one of the top programs in the country.

Texas athletic revenue for last year was twice WVU's revenue and that is after sucking for a decade.

They will be desired whether they win or not. College sports are about money not about talent or competitiveness.

EDIT: So let's hope Oklahoma makes it and we get a portion of that money. When the Big 12 gets the spots WE get more money.

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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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Neither has anything to due with the outrage vs. lack of outrage discussion at hand. If this were a legal argument then you'd be all over it. Keep humping that chicken.


The legal argument is the point of the outrage. No one cares about whether she did or didn't have an account or a server. We cared about what legally was being investigated and the fact that she thumbed her nose at the laws as written and at the FBI specifically.


So what is your take on Ivanka and her dimwit husband moving emails to the Trump Organization server after being told not to?


Do you have a source that shows that:

1. They were told not to by someone in the Justice Department
2. That the emails were kept on the Trump Organization server. I was under the understanding that the data merely passed through the Trump Organization servers.

I am not aware that they were actively told not to do this. I am also not trying to say you are wrong. I am saying I am ignorant of these two facts. I am under the understanding that the emails sent were through personal email accounts. It sounds as if these were emails that had government business content but were more like....attach the info......"get a load of this". That type stuff.

By all means it should be investigated but at this point I don't think there should be any outrage until more facts come in. As stupid as these morons are I can't see them being that dumb. I have been wrong before.

Now if Christopher Wray asks for these emails as a part of an investigation and Kushner/Ivana/Donald delete the emails.....they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

There is a big difference between traffic going through a server and residing on that server. I don't know how systems are set up in this administration but state secrets regularly go through regular systems as a pass-thru. So the fact that emails go through a system wouldn't necessarily make it wrong. In fact in the internet the route that any information takes is non-deterministic. However closely linked servers would be more likely to pass packets

Look, I think Donald Trump is about the dumbest person who has ever been elected and he may turn out to be the worst President ever. I thought that would take a real effort given the series of poor and ineffective leaders that we have had recently but he takes ineffectiveness to levels of buffoonery the likes of which we have never seen. In fact, in the future when we compare Presidents we may have to set Trump in his own class so that we can make meaningful comparisons with other Presidents.

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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't it the use of a non-classified server to store classified information the major issue with the Hillary email stuff?


Yes. You can't seem to get that through eer_4da_beer's thick head. It has nothing to do with just sending private emails. But he doesn't really want to understand that. He is on a mission to make these two things equivalent when they are not any way shape or form the same.

The largest outrage was the outrage about her deleting the emails.

The second largest outrage was that she setup a personal email server for items that she knew was classified.

In Kushner's situation none of the emails he sent were classified. The number of differences here are monumental but if Eer_4da_beer keeps pounding that square peg I am sure it will fit in a round hole.

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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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Neither has anything to due with the outrage vs. lack of outrage discussion at hand. If this were a legal argument then you'd be all over it. Keep humping that chicken.


The legal argument is the point of the outrage. No one cares about whether she did or didn't have an account or a server. We cared about what legally was being investigated and the fact that she thumbed her nose at the laws as written and at the FBI specifically.

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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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Lol, twenty year IT professional here...but since you are such an expert on private email accounts vs. private email servers, please explain to me what email server was being used for his private account? Unless you are suggesting he used gmail and that is somehow better and more secure?


27 years in the software industry. Bachelor of Science in Computer science. They aren't the same are they? Neither you or I know what server was used so you nor i know if they are or they aren't secure. I do know that the likelihood that Hillary Clinton could maintain a secure email server at her residence is less likely than Google can keep her data secure.

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Please link to one instance of me defending Bill Clinton's BS. You can't. Nice try though.

I guess if having a double standard on what merits outrage is having the decency to handle things the right way then we'll just have to agree to disagree.


Funny how you make stereotype arguments against conservatives and then act like someone has to prove YOU personally were outraged by Clinton. What a sad argument. Are you trying to say liberals weren't upset by Trump's treatment of women? Own it or stop the stereotypes argument in the other direction!


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Re: BUT HIS EMAILS!!!!!????!
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zwaaa wrote:
Awesome how conservatives are no longer outraged by use of a private e-mail server.

Just sayin'


Brobison...the quote above is the topic at hand. Not an investigation. Not subpoenas. The topic is the selective outrage from conservatives on the use of private email. It's really not hard to follow.

I understand all that you are saying. It's just irrelevant to the topic at hand. You're just too Trumpedly determined to win and look smarter than everyone to notice. Glad you don't act like we morons on the left/right.


By the way....Kushner didn't have a private email server. He had a private email account. There is quite a difference there.

Once again...if a criminal investigation doesn't matter then a non-investigation doesn't matter either. You just showed us what was important. Thank you oh liberal one.

Its like when you guys go all ape-**** over Donald Trump TALKING about grabbing **** but you defend the guy who actually grabs them. See? How does the hypocrisy look now? At least the conservatives have the decency to handle this in the correct direction.

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