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Re: List of campaign promises President of the United States, Donald Trump, has kept thus far
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And Obama appointed a guy as Secretary of the TREASURY that didn't even know HOW to complete and file his taxes ... without cheating.

And then he blamed it on Turbo Tax.


Plus, I am pretty sure he claimed his forehead as another dependent.

Yes. Geittner was far and away one of the worst appointments ever. Trump may have some that come close but...come on....to have a guy OVER the IRS that hadn't paid his taxes is beyond stupid.

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Re: NCAA Tournament Thread
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You stop it. They did call a foul on Philip because Gross backed his butt on him immediately after Carter hits a 3 (refs fault). They don't call a foul when Adrian greys hit twice for a layup (refs fault) and they took 15 minutes to review a play that should have been a foul (refs fault, would given us 2 free throws) that went out of bounds when the first replay clearly shows it was our ball. Both teams didn't have great offensive games but one team did get plenty of calls, no calls, and time to rest when they needed it.

And to that, you can attribute to the refs. So save your bs that the officiating didn't influence the outcome


When you are as successful making a basket as a moderate hitting baseball player is of getting a hit......you should probably not spend so much time about other people's "perceived" mistakes.

Neither team had a particularly good offensive game. REALLY?!! We shot 26.7% they shot 40.9%. That is far and away the difference in the game.We shot 21,7% from the 3-point line they shot 40%. That is the difference in the game right there. The officials....as usual....are irrelevant. Fix this and you win. It is much easier to just blame the refs than to accept your performance is horrible.

As for the "disparity" in foul calling....there were 26 fouls against Gonzaga and 25 against WVU. Your argument holds almost no water at all.

THe officiating only "influenced" the game to the point that making calls has an effect. I guess a better solution is to not have any officials and then their calls can't "influence" the game. We'll see how long you like that solution.

I watched the game. With the exception of the period to review the out of bounds call with Adrian it was pretty well officiated. People have to stop bitching and complaining about officiating every time you lose. The same officials are blowing whistles on both teams. I assure you you didn't watch with the perception of the Gonzaga fan. I am sure they had plenty to complain about too. I would say that I don't think that Gonzaga has an edge in perception to WVU. It isn't like we were playing Duke, Kentucky or UNC.

There are thousands of college basketball officials. During that round only 24 officials were working games. The assigners of those 8 games had their choice of ANY of the thousands of officials to work those games. Those are damn good officials. If you didn't like the officiating and think its a problem then its likely you will NEVER EVER accept official's calls. So:

1. Stop watching the games
2. Have them stop playing because the whole system is unfair
3. Accept that not every call will be made during a game.

Consistency is NOT getting every call right. There are plenty of times that calls are not made that maybe should be made. I have been a vocal critic of college officials calling travels. With that being said, consistency is the ability to make sure that the basic level of physicality is adhered to.

I would also suggest that if you don't like the officiating, a real good solution is to be part of the solution. The world is waiting for you to give your ass off your couch and get out there and show us all how it is done. While not everyone can be a athlete at the highest levels ANYONE can be a top notch official with the drive and work ethic.

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Re: Texas vs WVU big 12 tourny thread. No pushoff edition
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Can Adrian dunk???

Seriously??? Can he???

He should go HARD to the hole, clear out with his left hand, and THROW IT DOWN with his right.

And if someone sticks a hand in to block it ... the goal should be to break the defender's hand, wrist, or forearm; or better yet, ALL THREE!!!


What's the point. 2 points is 2 points


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Were you watching???

His weak-ass layup got swatted away (TWICE) like a seventh grader against an NBA player.

He looked like a FOOL.


Phil Collins couldn't jump but if you all remember, he was tough as nails


Oh Yes!!!! The only basketball player ever to work as a bouncer, get stabbed with a knife and play the next game!

A mere flesh wound......

Plus...when guys on the other team seemed to be loitering around too much.....POW!!!! punch the guy in the face. He was a mucking and grinding hockey player trapped in a basketball players body.


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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Was this our first Big 12 Conference title in any sport?


Womens soccer, rifle maybe. I don't know off the top of my head.


Women's soccer we have won every year in the conference during either regular season or tournament and most years both.

In rifle we are in the Great American Rifle Conference. No affiliation with the Big 12. In fact, TCU is in a different conference than we are for rifle. The first time we will play them in rifle will be on the 18th at Ohio State for the NCAA Tournament.


Sorry...I was thinking about the qualifier on Feb. 18. They shoot at the NCAAs this Friday and Saturday, March 10 and 11.

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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Was this our first Big 12 Conference title in any sport?


Womens soccer, rifle maybe. I don't know off the top of my head.


Women's soccer we have won every year in the conference during either regular season or tournament and most years both.

In rifle we are in the Great American Rifle Conference. No affiliation with the Big 12. In fact, TCU is in a different conference than we are for rifle. The first time we will play them in rifle will be on the 18th at Ohio State for the NCAA Tournament.

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Re: GET IN HERE. WVU Women's Bball team takes on Baylor for the Big 12 Championship!!!
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Great going ladies! So happy you won. Just wish it was on tv to watch. I hope somebody will save this game for later watching. I want to see our ladies playing great BBall.

So happy to have the ladies win first. Now a national championship is next. Big12 championship someday also.

Big12 Tourney Champs is a great start.

The guys must be encouraged with the win and it may give us the added edge we need to win the close ones. I am sure B H is going to use this win to inspire his team. Competition creates winners and now the two may inspire each other. If the men win the tourney it will be enough for me for this week and I will be hoping and praying for our dreams to come to fruition with our NC.


It was on Fox Sports 1. Great win. They put a spanking on and then went into survival mode like the mens team.

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Re: Women's BBall
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I actually had no idea that college women played 4 quarters instead of 2 halves


They started that 2 years ago. Along with that rule change the women's game allows the team taking the ball out of bounds to use a timeout to move the ball to half court for an out of bounds throw in.


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Re: Conference Armageddon: The Official Conference Speculation Thread
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I wouldn't be surprised if they named that guy from the Dr. Pepper commercials that is the embodiment of why uncles are annoying to be the official chaplain of the conference.



Actually, I was kind of hoping they would get that guy to be the new commissioner of the conference. He did have enough pull to get into Steve Spurrier's house. I doubt Bowelsby could find the house or be allowed in.

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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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Watch it in real time on ESPN. Phillip got the rebound.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400916254


I see what you are saying. My mistake. I thought from the looks.....that there was a foul on a rebound a little earlier than this play.

I will be honest....I don't think I would have called that a foul. I think my assumption is that we could go to over time and let the two teams sort it out in 5 minutes.

The earlier foul against Adrian was definitely a foul. He went across the guys body and hit his arms. That had to be called but a small bump like that, that was unassociated with the actual airborne shooter....I just don't think I see enough disadvantage to call the foul. He got as good a look at the basket as he would have gotten had he continued on.

With that being said, if you are a TCU fan you have no real beef here. That was foolish contact. He should have just let him go. I think a simple hand up when he shoots is enough. He clearly initiated contact. I am not sure how much effect it had on the play as I don't think he had a real good look at the basket.


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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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I haven't seen anyone mention that after Miles was phantom-fouled and missed the jumper, Tarik Phillip got the offensive rebound under the basket with 4.8 seconds on the clock -- plenty of time for a put-back layup.

Adrian was also there.


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I suspect that the foul probably happened before what you saw in the screen here. I don't really know. The "center" official probably saw something during the positioning for the rebound. The official held the whistle until it was evident that whatever had happened had affected the play. If an official can not blow the whistle then that saves everyone a lot of grief. Sometimes that is not the case.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I think it is great that he has his priorities right.

As a fan, it makes me very nervous that little brother may consider the same thing. I sure hope not, he was the jewel of last year's recruiting class. Hope his knee is rehabbing well.


I don't know how student athletes do the Engineering program but as a regular student that went through the program. This semester for him (second semester Sophomore year) is a beast!

19 credit hour, Calculus gets a little easier, Thermodynamics takes its place and a lot of foundation in whatever Engineering discipline that he wants to focus on. I would suspect given the open door to come back that this may have been planned for a while. I think he will come back....I hope. Depends on how far back he has fallen in his classwork. I know there are a number of Engineering students in the Pride that end up not being able to split the time. As you say it is good he has his priorities straight.

Good Luck to Michael! I seriously don't know how he and Ginny Thrasher do it. When I went to WVU I gave some consideration to walking on for baseball. Being gone for the month of March to play down south when the season starts is just not, in my opinion doable. I have no regrets. I have a great job and realistically had no chance of making a dime playing baseball. I barely stayed in good standing by studying all of the time.

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Re: Texas Game
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How the hell can you not count to 2? Guy is on fast break, guy picks his dribble up after his left foot is in the air, steps down with his right foot (1) steps down with left foot (2) and uses that left foot to jump or explode to the rim. It's not **** rocket science.

Here. James Harden, what I just described but reversed because he's a lefty. Left foot is step one, right foot is step 2.

https://youtu.be/GO2uwykA6lU



I am done after this but as I have said. It is two steps in the NBA. The rules aren't the same. There are MANY, MANY more rules which are NOT the same in professional sports as in college and high school. College and high school rules are not always the same....although they are pretty close. Furthermore, no one has changed the travel rules in high school and college in probably half a century. I actually played eons ago before the three point line in high school and I will tell you that if half the **** that goes on in a college game were done by us back then the officials would have spent all night blowing their whistle.

We have showed you the rule, gone through ACTUAL film with the rule, and showed the difference between the NBA and college. If you can't see the difference between that I can't help you.....and I would agree....It's not rocket science...but at the same time it isn't let's just count to two. There are rules that are to be enforced. They are to be enforced as written unless enforcing them would have unintended negative consequences that were not foreseen by the rules committee.

A great advantage is gained if a player can pick up the ball and do a Eurostep when the rules CLEARLY prohibit it. The rules committee attempts to provide for equal emphasis on offense and defense. How in hell's earth is it fair to allow an offensive player to just run around a defensive player who has legal guarding position? Oh, just pick the ball up and run around him. Now defender, don't you move your feet or it will be a block but we are going to let this guy take as many steps as he wants to run around you or spin around you or whatever the hell he wants to do. You would have been better served to just sit down on the floor and rest because there will be no way by rule to stop him. We only care that a person can dunk the ball we care not if there is any defense played in the game. That is why I hate the NBA and I don't watch it.

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Re: Texas Game
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But it's still 2 steps. Idc what is said. You're taught since your a little kid that you can take 2 steps. Telling a kid they can take 1.5 steps is retarded and enforcing that rule of 1.5 is cancer to basketball. They over complicate the game for no reason. Just like all of the unnecessary bullshit in football to make a catch by rule. We all know what a catch is. If you slow things down to 1 frame per seconds you can claim anything you want really.


It is NOT TWO STEPS!!!!!! How you get two steps out of any of the rules I have enumerated above I have no idea.

Regardless of what you are taught, the traveling rule has not changed in a VERY long time. I have been officiating for 24 years and there has not been a change in 24 years. I am pretty sure the current traveling rules have been in place for the last 50 years or more. LONG LONG before any of these players were even born. Go back to the 70s. These guys would all have about 20 travels each.

Most players are taught they can't move when they take a charge and that is wrong.

Most people think that striking the backboard is a technical foul or worse yet goal tending....it can be a technical foul but only if struck out of anger and can never be goal tending.

Most people think that you can't move your feet on a spot throw-in that is wrong.

I could go on and on with what people "think" and are "taught" are the rules and it is just plain wrong.

Just because you have been taught wrong doesn't mean that the rules of basketball are different. I have explained the rules in the book. I have given you video to show the point. I have given video of a legal move. It is helpful to slow things down. Not all plays have this done for them so take advantage of this and study it so you can detect one at full speed.

At the end of the day if you aren't going to call these don't call any. But that isn't what is done. They are arbitrarily called and not consistent. If they were called consistently it would stop and basketball would return. In the NBA there is a two step but not three rule which makes the Euro step legal. As I say....It is NOT legal in college or National Federation. It just isn't there is not two steps in high school and college.

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Re: Texas Game
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https://youtu.be/QDbqFYn38ao

This looks like a legal one. Notice how he dribbles a half step longer.

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Re: My daughter is a mountaineer
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Hello. Tomorrow we are doing a campus tour. She is nervous. University of Kentucky and several other colleges has also accepted her.


My daughter was nervous too. My daughter was REALLY impressed with the student ambassadors. They really care about the university and they go out of their way to make the perspective student feel wanted.

Congrats and tell her to relax. No one in Morgantown bites. ;)

EDIT: I just received my letter from E. Gordon Gee welcoming me into the Mountaineer parents group.

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Re: Texas Game
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How exactly is a Eurostep traveling?


The Eurostep is traveling in high school and college.

The problem with traveling is that most people believe you have two steps. I have heard officials tell coaches and players that you only have a step and a half. This is closer to the truth but it is an over simplification.

The actual travel rule is much more complex.

The fact is you have NO steps. I have put this down before but I will put down the abbreviated version.

if you secure the ball with one foot on the floor and one foot in the air. The foot on the floor is your pivot foot. From there you can jump from the one foot to two feet but you have no pivot foot.

If you secure the ball with both feet on the floor either foot can be your pivot foot.

If your pivot foot is off the floor you can only pass or shoot you can not begin a dribble.

It is not a travel until the pivot foot returns to the floor.

Further you can't travel if you don't control the ball. Regardless of how many steps you take if you aren't in control of the ball you are not traveling. Most young officials say they have a problem determining if the player is in control of the ball. I ask them. Would you have awarded them a time out if they asked? If the answer is yes to this question, they have control in your opinion.

Here is a youtube example of a Eurostep. I wish I could embed the youtube example in the message but I can't.....I am not a smart man Jenny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmgqn7hDpac


In this example the ball is gathered with the right foot on the floor. The right foot is the pivot(see above) the player then jumps and puts the left foot on the floor lifting the right pivot foot and then jumps to the right and when the right foot hits the floor it is a travel. Watch it full speed and then watch in slow motion when he takes his last dribble and when the ball comes to rest in his hand. Pause the video and see if you don't see his right foot down with his left foot going to the right side of the defender.


EDIT: I read this again and a part of the travel rule was unclear. When you jump from the one foot to two feet (jumpstep) the two feet must come down at approximately the same time.

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Re: Dearly departed roll call
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Re: Texas Game
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Ive noticed that refs this year are really flubbing the travel/no travel calls. I know theyre trying to place an emphasis on players catching the ball and THEN setting their pivot foot after the catch, but while refs are trying to focus on that, theyre calling a lot of travels where it is a perfectly legal move. Ive seen this a ton this year.

The biggest one I've noticed is when a player jab steps and then uses the same foot to drive. This is like basketball 101 but players are getting penalized for it. For example:
--I catch a pass and establish my right foot as a pivot foot.
--I then take my left foot and jab to the left to try and fake the defender that way
--without moving my right foot, I then take my left foot and cross over my body to the right and take a dribble.

This is a perfectly legal move and a very basic jab step, but refs call this traveling seemingly more often than not. It drives me crazy


I haven't seen many cases in WVU games where travels were CALLED incorrectly but, yes, officials at all levels do a horrible job at it. For the most part though the two that grate on my nerves are the tuck the ball and run across the lane or to the basket and the 360-spin move. All an official needs to do is have those two slowed down and it is evident that it is a travel. Just call it. It will clean up the game. Will you on a rare occasion be wrong? Yes. But you will get 95% of all of the travels. Right now I would say we as officials are getting about 30% of the travels and probably 10% or 20% wrong.

EDIT: This is a part of my game that I have been working on because the state of PA and the National Federation are wanting this called so I am watching gobs of game film and slowing it down. When I do a game I always ask for game film from the coaches.

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Re: Texas Game
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Solid win. Nice to see the young guys getting playing time and showing they deserve it.

By the way ... what the HELL is the back court rule???

Is it the position of the BALL??? Does it matter where the players feet are??? When he jumped??? When he landed???

Carter left his feet in the backcourt, threw it laterally after he AND the ball crossed half court (while STILL in the air), the ball STAYED in the frontcourt, Myers (I believe), was in the air (after jumping from the backcourt), caught the ball while still in the air while the ball was still in the frontcourt, and then Myers landed in the frontcourt.

WHY was this a backcourt violation??? The BALL NEVER went back to the backcourt AFTER crossing into the frontcourt.


OK. I suspect I should probably review the back court rule as I was fortunate enough to see this game and apparently the officials here not only didn't seem to have a good grasp of traveling but also were inconsistent in calling backcourt. They did indeed miss a backcourt violation against Texas in this game.

The backcourt violation is:

After having team control of the ball in the frontcourt if the offensive team is last to touch the ball in the front court and first to touch the ball in the back court it is a backcourt violation.

There IS AN EXCEPTION which I will discuss below.

The key to properly adjudicating this call is to understand Rule 4 of the basketball rules which is definition. The relevant definitions are "team control", "court status", "ball status" and "front court".

First we have front court. The team's front court is the area of the floor, in bounds, between the edge of the centerline and the end line of the team's basket at which the team in question is attempting to score. Front court status is team dependent.

Next we have ball ball status. The status of the ball when not being touched by a player is the status the ball last had when it touched the court or, if not in the air, the status of the court where the ball is in contact with. In order to be in bounds the ball must be wholly in contact with the in bounds area. If the ball is touching the out of bounds boundary line then the ball is out of bounds. If the ball is touching the floor both in the front court and the center line it has back court status. When the ball is in contact with an official, the ball has the status of the official. If the official is standing even partially out of bounds the ball is out of bounds. If the official has one foot in the front court and one foot in the back court the ball has back court status. When the ball is in contact with a player, the ball has the same status as the player.

Player status is the same as ball status for the most part. The player has the court status depending on where his feet are on the floor. The airborne player's status is where he was when last in contact with the floor....always remember....."You are where you were." There is one difference when determining back court status. When dribbling a player has backcourt status until both feet and the ball are in contact with the floor in the front court. A player can dribble the ball in the frontcourt while standing in the backcourt. The player can then switch by standing in the front court while bouncing the ball in the backcourt. In both instances the ball still has back court status and the 10-second count should still be timed. The player can alternate across the center line between front and back court until such a time that both feet AND the ball hit in the front court. At that time, the ball has front court status.

Finally, there is team control. Team control is established when the ball is possessed by a player. Team control is then established for the team that the player belongs to. Team control is also established for a team when the official hands the ball to the thrower for a throw in and when the official makes the ball available to the free throw shooter whether the free throw shooter possesses the ball or not. Team control continues through passing, interrupted dribbles, fumbles taps by the OTHER team until one of the following happens to end team control:

1. A try is attempted.
2. The other team POSSESSES the ball. (<-Very important point here.)
3. a foul or violation occurs.
4. The whistle blows.

So, in the instance above if Carter picked the dribble up after both feet and the ball were in the front court and jumped into the backcourt we would have team control (Carter holding it) in the front court (Carter is where he was) the throw was then to Myers who left from the back court having back court status (where he was) caught the ball the ball has backcourt status now. Carter was last to touch in the front court and Meyer was first to touch in the back court. This is a back court violation.

The reason that #2 above is so important is that a simple bat of the ball is not a possession, therefore, if WVU player #1 has the ball in the front court and Texas Player #1 bats the ball from WVU #1's hand and the ball hits WVU #1 player in the leg and then goes into the back court when WVU #1 picks the ball up in the back court this is a back court violation.

EXCEPTION:!!!!! The exception noted above is that on an interception OR a throw in. The person receiving the ball can jump from his team's front court secure the ball and come down in his team's back court and it was legal.

In last nights game Texas got away with one. I think I remember the WVU backcourt violation and I thought how strange it was to have more than one in a night at that level of play. They missed one and caught one.

I really just wish that college officials would call the travel. Christ Almighty!!!! When a guy tucks the ball like a running back there is NO WAY in the world he is not going to be guilty of a travel. I would love to get slowed down video of these to show people what I mean. They can call whatever they want in college but when I blow that in a high school game I get a dumbass look from players coaches and fans. This is not football!!!!

I watched both the Virginia/Miami game and the WVU/Texas game. This travel crap is getting completely out of control. It is beyond recognizing they are doing it. I saw way more than a couple....I wasn't counting.... Just blow the WHISTLE!!!!

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Re: WVU to demolish Stansbury Hall
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West Virginia University will tear down Stansbury Hall, the historic building where Jerry West played basketball in the 1950s, and construct a new business school complex on the site.

The announcement came Friday, on the day of the school’s Board of Governors meeting, after months of hinting that the college might get a new facility. Bob Reynolds, an alumnus of the school, and his wife, Laura, donated $10 million for the school, the initial funding for the project, according to a news release.

“About five years ago, we began talking with folks at the College of Business and Economics and the [WVU] Foundation about B&E’s vision for the future — and how we might be a part of that,” Bob Reynolds said in the release. “Now we’ve come together on a vibrant plan for a new business school building and other amenities that will revitalize and transform Morgantown’s waterfront. This is a plan we’re proud to support.”

In honor of the gift, the new complex will be named in the Reynolds’ honor and will sit at the heart of downtown Morgantown.




Wasn't the business school the building that was built where Old Mountaineer Field used to be? What will that building become?

Posted on: 2/15 7:46 pm
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