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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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Watch it in real time on ESPN. Phillip got the rebound.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400916254


I see what you are saying. My mistake. I thought from the looks.....that there was a foul on a rebound a little earlier than this play.

I will be honest....I don't think I would have called that a foul. I think my assumption is that we could go to over time and let the two teams sort it out in 5 minutes.

The earlier foul against Adrian was definitely a foul. He went across the guys body and hit his arms. That had to be called but a small bump like that, that was unassociated with the actual airborne shooter....I just don't think I see enough disadvantage to call the foul. He got as good a look at the basket as he would have gotten had he continued on.

With that being said, if you are a TCU fan you have no real beef here. That was foolish contact. He should have just let him go. I think a simple hand up when he shoots is enough. He clearly initiated contact. I am not sure how much effect it had on the play as I don't think he had a real good look at the basket.


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Re: We had ball after phantom foul
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I haven't seen anyone mention that after Miles was phantom-fouled and missed the jumper, Tarik Phillip got the offensive rebound under the basket with 4.8 seconds on the clock -- plenty of time for a put-back layup.

Adrian was also there.


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I suspect that the foul probably happened before what you saw in the screen here. I don't really know. The "center" official probably saw something during the positioning for the rebound. The official held the whistle until it was evident that whatever had happened had affected the play. If an official can not blow the whistle then that saves everyone a lot of grief. Sometimes that is not the case.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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I think it is great that he has his priorities right.

As a fan, it makes me very nervous that little brother may consider the same thing. I sure hope not, he was the jewel of last year's recruiting class. Hope his knee is rehabbing well.


I don't know how student athletes do the Engineering program but as a regular student that went through the program. This semester for him (second semester Sophomore year) is a beast!

19 credit hour, Calculus gets a little easier, Thermodynamics takes its place and a lot of foundation in whatever Engineering discipline that he wants to focus on. I would suspect given the open door to come back that this may have been planned for a while. I think he will come back....I hope. Depends on how far back he has fallen in his classwork. I know there are a number of Engineering students in the Pride that end up not being able to split the time. As you say it is good he has his priorities straight.

Good Luck to Michael! I seriously don't know how he and Ginny Thrasher do it. When I went to WVU I gave some consideration to walking on for baseball. Being gone for the month of March to play down south when the season starts is just not, in my opinion doable. I have no regrets. I have a great job and realistically had no chance of making a dime playing baseball. I barely stayed in good standing by studying all of the time.

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Re: Texas Game
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How the hell can you not count to 2? Guy is on fast break, guy picks his dribble up after his left foot is in the air, steps down with his right foot (1) steps down with left foot (2) and uses that left foot to jump or explode to the rim. It's not **** rocket science.

Here. James Harden, what I just described but reversed because he's a lefty. Left foot is step one, right foot is step 2.

https://youtu.be/GO2uwykA6lU



I am done after this but as I have said. It is two steps in the NBA. The rules aren't the same. There are MANY, MANY more rules which are NOT the same in professional sports as in college and high school. College and high school rules are not always the same....although they are pretty close. Furthermore, no one has changed the travel rules in high school and college in probably half a century. I actually played eons ago before the three point line in high school and I will tell you that if half the **** that goes on in a college game were done by us back then the officials would have spent all night blowing their whistle.

We have showed you the rule, gone through ACTUAL film with the rule, and showed the difference between the NBA and college. If you can't see the difference between that I can't help you.....and I would agree....It's not rocket science...but at the same time it isn't let's just count to two. There are rules that are to be enforced. They are to be enforced as written unless enforcing them would have unintended negative consequences that were not foreseen by the rules committee.

A great advantage is gained if a player can pick up the ball and do a Eurostep when the rules CLEARLY prohibit it. The rules committee attempts to provide for equal emphasis on offense and defense. How in hell's earth is it fair to allow an offensive player to just run around a defensive player who has legal guarding position? Oh, just pick the ball up and run around him. Now defender, don't you move your feet or it will be a block but we are going to let this guy take as many steps as he wants to run around you or spin around you or whatever the hell he wants to do. You would have been better served to just sit down on the floor and rest because there will be no way by rule to stop him. We only care that a person can dunk the ball we care not if there is any defense played in the game. That is why I hate the NBA and I don't watch it.

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Re: Texas Game
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But it's still 2 steps. Idc what is said. You're taught since your a little kid that you can take 2 steps. Telling a kid they can take 1.5 steps is retarded and enforcing that rule of 1.5 is cancer to basketball. They over complicate the game for no reason. Just like all of the unnecessary bullshit in football to make a catch by rule. We all know what a catch is. If you slow things down to 1 frame per seconds you can claim anything you want really.


It is NOT TWO STEPS!!!!!! How you get two steps out of any of the rules I have enumerated above I have no idea.

Regardless of what you are taught, the traveling rule has not changed in a VERY long time. I have been officiating for 24 years and there has not been a change in 24 years. I am pretty sure the current traveling rules have been in place for the last 50 years or more. LONG LONG before any of these players were even born. Go back to the 70s. These guys would all have about 20 travels each.

Most players are taught they can't move when they take a charge and that is wrong.

Most people think that striking the backboard is a technical foul or worse yet goal tending....it can be a technical foul but only if struck out of anger and can never be goal tending.

Most people think that you can't move your feet on a spot throw-in that is wrong.

I could go on and on with what people "think" and are "taught" are the rules and it is just plain wrong.

Just because you have been taught wrong doesn't mean that the rules of basketball are different. I have explained the rules in the book. I have given you video to show the point. I have given video of a legal move. It is helpful to slow things down. Not all plays have this done for them so take advantage of this and study it so you can detect one at full speed.

At the end of the day if you aren't going to call these don't call any. But that isn't what is done. They are arbitrarily called and not consistent. If they were called consistently it would stop and basketball would return. In the NBA there is a two step but not three rule which makes the Euro step legal. As I say....It is NOT legal in college or National Federation. It just isn't there is not two steps in high school and college.

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Re: Texas Game
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https://youtu.be/QDbqFYn38ao

This looks like a legal one. Notice how he dribbles a half step longer.

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Re: My daughter is a mountaineer
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Hello. Tomorrow we are doing a campus tour. She is nervous. University of Kentucky and several other colleges has also accepted her.


My daughter was nervous too. My daughter was REALLY impressed with the student ambassadors. They really care about the university and they go out of their way to make the perspective student feel wanted.

Congrats and tell her to relax. No one in Morgantown bites. ;)

EDIT: I just received my letter from E. Gordon Gee welcoming me into the Mountaineer parents group.

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Re: Texas Game
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How exactly is a Eurostep traveling?


The Eurostep is traveling in high school and college.

The problem with traveling is that most people believe you have two steps. I have heard officials tell coaches and players that you only have a step and a half. This is closer to the truth but it is an over simplification.

The actual travel rule is much more complex.

The fact is you have NO steps. I have put this down before but I will put down the abbreviated version.

if you secure the ball with one foot on the floor and one foot in the air. The foot on the floor is your pivot foot. From there you can jump from the one foot to two feet but you have no pivot foot.

If you secure the ball with both feet on the floor either foot can be your pivot foot.

If your pivot foot is off the floor you can only pass or shoot you can not begin a dribble.

It is not a travel until the pivot foot returns to the floor.

Further you can't travel if you don't control the ball. Regardless of how many steps you take if you aren't in control of the ball you are not traveling. Most young officials say they have a problem determining if the player is in control of the ball. I ask them. Would you have awarded them a time out if they asked? If the answer is yes to this question, they have control in your opinion.

Here is a youtube example of a Eurostep. I wish I could embed the youtube example in the message but I can't.....I am not a smart man Jenny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmgqn7hDpac


In this example the ball is gathered with the right foot on the floor. The right foot is the pivot(see above) the player then jumps and puts the left foot on the floor lifting the right pivot foot and then jumps to the right and when the right foot hits the floor it is a travel. Watch it full speed and then watch in slow motion when he takes his last dribble and when the ball comes to rest in his hand. Pause the video and see if you don't see his right foot down with his left foot going to the right side of the defender.


EDIT: I read this again and a part of the travel rule was unclear. When you jump from the one foot to two feet (jumpstep) the two feet must come down at approximately the same time.

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Re: Dearly departed roll call
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Re: Texas Game
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Ive noticed that refs this year are really flubbing the travel/no travel calls. I know theyre trying to place an emphasis on players catching the ball and THEN setting their pivot foot after the catch, but while refs are trying to focus on that, theyre calling a lot of travels where it is a perfectly legal move. Ive seen this a ton this year.

The biggest one I've noticed is when a player jab steps and then uses the same foot to drive. This is like basketball 101 but players are getting penalized for it. For example:
--I catch a pass and establish my right foot as a pivot foot.
--I then take my left foot and jab to the left to try and fake the defender that way
--without moving my right foot, I then take my left foot and cross over my body to the right and take a dribble.

This is a perfectly legal move and a very basic jab step, but refs call this traveling seemingly more often than not. It drives me crazy


I haven't seen many cases in WVU games where travels were CALLED incorrectly but, yes, officials at all levels do a horrible job at it. For the most part though the two that grate on my nerves are the tuck the ball and run across the lane or to the basket and the 360-spin move. All an official needs to do is have those two slowed down and it is evident that it is a travel. Just call it. It will clean up the game. Will you on a rare occasion be wrong? Yes. But you will get 95% of all of the travels. Right now I would say we as officials are getting about 30% of the travels and probably 10% or 20% wrong.

EDIT: This is a part of my game that I have been working on because the state of PA and the National Federation are wanting this called so I am watching gobs of game film and slowing it down. When I do a game I always ask for game film from the coaches.

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Re: Texas Game
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Solid win. Nice to see the young guys getting playing time and showing they deserve it.

By the way ... what the HELL is the back court rule???

Is it the position of the BALL??? Does it matter where the players feet are??? When he jumped??? When he landed???

Carter left his feet in the backcourt, threw it laterally after he AND the ball crossed half court (while STILL in the air), the ball STAYED in the frontcourt, Myers (I believe), was in the air (after jumping from the backcourt), caught the ball while still in the air while the ball was still in the frontcourt, and then Myers landed in the frontcourt.

WHY was this a backcourt violation??? The BALL NEVER went back to the backcourt AFTER crossing into the frontcourt.


OK. I suspect I should probably review the back court rule as I was fortunate enough to see this game and apparently the officials here not only didn't seem to have a good grasp of traveling but also were inconsistent in calling backcourt. They did indeed miss a backcourt violation against Texas in this game.

The backcourt violation is:

After having team control of the ball in the frontcourt if the offensive team is last to touch the ball in the front court and first to touch the ball in the back court it is a backcourt violation.

There IS AN EXCEPTION which I will discuss below.

The key to properly adjudicating this call is to understand Rule 4 of the basketball rules which is definition. The relevant definitions are "team control", "court status", "ball status" and "front court".

First we have front court. The team's front court is the area of the floor, in bounds, between the edge of the centerline and the end line of the team's basket at which the team in question is attempting to score. Front court status is team dependent.

Next we have ball ball status. The status of the ball when not being touched by a player is the status the ball last had when it touched the court or, if not in the air, the status of the court where the ball is in contact with. In order to be in bounds the ball must be wholly in contact with the in bounds area. If the ball is touching the out of bounds boundary line then the ball is out of bounds. If the ball is touching the floor both in the front court and the center line it has back court status. When the ball is in contact with an official, the ball has the status of the official. If the official is standing even partially out of bounds the ball is out of bounds. If the official has one foot in the front court and one foot in the back court the ball has back court status. When the ball is in contact with a player, the ball has the same status as the player.

Player status is the same as ball status for the most part. The player has the court status depending on where his feet are on the floor. The airborne player's status is where he was when last in contact with the floor....always remember....."You are where you were." There is one difference when determining back court status. When dribbling a player has backcourt status until both feet and the ball are in contact with the floor in the front court. A player can dribble the ball in the frontcourt while standing in the backcourt. The player can then switch by standing in the front court while bouncing the ball in the backcourt. In both instances the ball still has back court status and the 10-second count should still be timed. The player can alternate across the center line between front and back court until such a time that both feet AND the ball hit in the front court. At that time, the ball has front court status.

Finally, there is team control. Team control is established when the ball is possessed by a player. Team control is then established for the team that the player belongs to. Team control is also established for a team when the official hands the ball to the thrower for a throw in and when the official makes the ball available to the free throw shooter whether the free throw shooter possesses the ball or not. Team control continues through passing, interrupted dribbles, fumbles taps by the OTHER team until one of the following happens to end team control:

1. A try is attempted.
2. The other team POSSESSES the ball. (<-Very important point here.)
3. a foul or violation occurs.
4. The whistle blows.

So, in the instance above if Carter picked the dribble up after both feet and the ball were in the front court and jumped into the backcourt we would have team control (Carter holding it) in the front court (Carter is where he was) the throw was then to Myers who left from the back court having back court status (where he was) caught the ball the ball has backcourt status now. Carter was last to touch in the front court and Meyer was first to touch in the back court. This is a back court violation.

The reason that #2 above is so important is that a simple bat of the ball is not a possession, therefore, if WVU player #1 has the ball in the front court and Texas Player #1 bats the ball from WVU #1's hand and the ball hits WVU #1 player in the leg and then goes into the back court when WVU #1 picks the ball up in the back court this is a back court violation.

EXCEPTION:!!!!! The exception noted above is that on an interception OR a throw in. The person receiving the ball can jump from his team's front court secure the ball and come down in his team's back court and it was legal.

In last nights game Texas got away with one. I think I remember the WVU backcourt violation and I thought how strange it was to have more than one in a night at that level of play. They missed one and caught one.

I really just wish that college officials would call the travel. Christ Almighty!!!! When a guy tucks the ball like a running back there is NO WAY in the world he is not going to be guilty of a travel. I would love to get slowed down video of these to show people what I mean. They can call whatever they want in college but when I blow that in a high school game I get a dumbass look from players coaches and fans. This is not football!!!!

I watched both the Virginia/Miami game and the WVU/Texas game. This travel crap is getting completely out of control. It is beyond recognizing they are doing it. I saw way more than a couple....I wasn't counting.... Just blow the WHISTLE!!!!

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Re: WVU to demolish Stansbury Hall
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West Virginia University will tear down Stansbury Hall, the historic building where Jerry West played basketball in the 1950s, and construct a new business school complex on the site.

The announcement came Friday, on the day of the school’s Board of Governors meeting, after months of hinting that the college might get a new facility. Bob Reynolds, an alumnus of the school, and his wife, Laura, donated $10 million for the school, the initial funding for the project, according to a news release.

“About five years ago, we began talking with folks at the College of Business and Economics and the [WVU] Foundation about B&E’s vision for the future — and how we might be a part of that,” Bob Reynolds said in the release. “Now we’ve come together on a vibrant plan for a new business school building and other amenities that will revitalize and transform Morgantown’s waterfront. This is a plan we’re proud to support.”

In honor of the gift, the new complex will be named in the Reynolds’ honor and will sit at the heart of downtown Morgantown.




Wasn't the business school the building that was built where Old Mountaineer Field used to be? What will that building become?

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Re: 5 seconds?
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I rewound this particular play and it was a 5 second violation, even though it was close it could have been called.
What I saw was Tarik caught the ball, let it drop to the floor then picked it up, that was two seconds, then he commenced to inbound it at the 4-1/2 to 5 second count. I didn't notice the jumping of out of bounds by the defender though. That was a missed call by the home field refs.
I kind of figured we would loss, being in kansas but, had to watch the game.
FWIW - I do not think Kansas is as good as they are made out to be and they are not a final 4 team. If they make it past the sweet 16 I'll be surprised.


The only penalty for the guy jumping out was a warning for delay. This happens a lot in basketball and is not always called. In college basketball it really isn't that big of a deal. The thrower has enough area that a slight incursion is not a big deal. This rule is really for those places like small gyms and high schools where there is not room to get away from the guy. Remember, the thrower can move as far back as he wants to get away from the thrower. Plus, in this instance he can run the line so I don't really see it being that big of a disadvantage. I have to admit that I don't always call it. You don't want to take away a good defensive play for a horsecrap half a foot over the line. It should never have gotten to that anyway. You have to be able to have an inbound play for pressure....especially when you are a team known for back court pressure!

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Re: Kansas Game
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....and this is the reason I don't expect WVU to go very far in the tournament. I do give Kansas some credit. They are a good team but I don't think they are Final Four material. To be leading by as much as they were as late as they were and to lose the game is unreal. How many times can you take the ball out and fail to get the ball in bounds?! How many missed foul shots? How many STEALS? For Christ sake take care of the ball!!!! One could go on and on about how they played the last 2 minutes differently than they played the previous 38 minutes and THAT is the reason they lost the game.

Seriously?! You have to use two time outs because the best you can do is to throw it into a double team trap in the corner of the back court IF you can get it in at all?! Great plan. Then, when you are placed at the free throw line you can't convert!!!! If you make your free throws and run the offense you can win the game. With the last minute or so you have one of their starting 5 fouled out and others in foul trouble and you can't do anything with it.

As for the officiating, I watched almost all of this game. (I missed the first 15 minutes or so of clock time 12-6(?) when I started watching). I did not see a problem with the officiating with the exception of really two calls. The ball that was knocked down and intercepted late and the 5 second count.

The five second call should probably not have been called...but I am not sure about this. If you look at the video, you can see that his arm is outstretched when the video starts. It appears that the count had already started. The rules state that the 5 second count begins when the ball is at the thrower's disposal. This is easy when it is a spot throw-in or after a time-out. It is when the official hands the ball to the thrower or blows the whistle and places the ball on the floor if the thrower is not there. It is less straightforward after a made basket. The count should begin when the official determines that the ball is "at the disposal" of the thrower. The thrower DOES NOT have to have the ball in his hands. Many times my count starts with the ball bouncing on the end line after a made basket. When the winning team is taking the ball out they are often slow to get the ball. They know that it is a subjective thing. Most of the time there is a coach watching the official and then telling the player - "He's counting". Until that they won't even pick it up. In WVUs case the official will watch for any delay in securing the ball that may be wasting time. I suspect that the five seconds started before the video started. I vaguely remember one of the made baskets where WVU just walked around before securing the ball. This may have been the one....I am not sure.

The reason I would not have called the 5 second call is that the whistle was blown while the ball was airborne. Once the ball was airborne I would not have called it. I realize that the 5 second call would have occurred before release but I would not have done that....it looks bad as it does here.

As for the player stepping across the line, that results in a warning for delay of game. There is no actual penalty for that other than the warning being noted and the throw-in restarted. Do we really think things would have been any better with another throw in? We screwed up a boatload of throwins in the last 2 minutes. Now if he does it again then it would be a technical foul. If he knocked the ball out of the thrower's hands it would be a technical foul. If he made contact with the thrower it would automatically be an intentional foul.

The out of bounds call while I questioned it, the official is right there. he can see the line better than anyone including the cameras. He would have called it out if it was. If not he missed it and he will have to answer for that.

For the people complaining about the foul shots. There is NO WAY a team that pressures the ball the full game versus a half court defense will have anywhere close to the same number of fouls. I thought that, from what I saw, they were pretty consistent. Would I have called the game like they did? No. I don't like the number of rebounding displacement fouls (You guys refer to them as "over the back" which is really wrong at the very least call them "on the back" as you can go over the back anytime you want without contact or placing the player at a disadvantage). In my opinion many "on the back" fouls result in no advantage/disadvantage and there should be just a play on mentality. I have seen this numerous times for and against WVU so I would say that it is pretty consistently applied. I don't like it but "so be it".

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Re: No. 2 Mountaineers Finish Season Undefeated
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The No. 2-ranked West Virginia University rifle team capped its 2016-17 regular season with its top performance of the year, shooting a season best in a 4726-4713 victory over No. 3 Murray State inside Buell Armory, in Lexington, Kentucky.

The Mountaineers’ win gives them a perfect 12-0 record, the program’s second straight undefeated season and the team’s third unblemished season in four years. Conversely, WVU handed the Racers (22-1) their first defeat of the season.

FINAL SCORES

WVU’s (12-0, 8-0 GARC) aggregate score tops its previous season high of 4725, shot in a win against Navy on Jan. 20. The Mountaineers’ total is the second-highest score earned nationally this year.



Also, it looks like we may have another future Olympian on the team...

Junior Elizabeth Gratz played a large role in the team’s air gun success, shooting an NCAA record 600 (100-100-100-100-100-100). The Sigel, Illinois, native is the first collegiate shooter to attain the score this season and only the third Mountaineer in program history to hit the perfect mark. Olympic Gold Medalist Nicco Campriani shot 600 air rifle twice in the 2010-11 season, and three-time NCAA champion Petra Zublasing shot the score once in the 2011-12 season.


This NCAA tournament is going to be a tough one. TCU has shot better than we have at times this season. They are pretty inconsistent. They shoot 4726 and then shoot 4700. We have consistently shot between 4710 and 4720. I am confident in our ability but if TCU lights it up we are a second place team.

Let's hope nerves hit TCU.

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Re: Kansas Game
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Did anyone see the end of the Kansas-Texas Tech game? 5.4 seconds score 79-79 and I am told Kansas won on a foul.

As an official I would almost have to have body parts lying on the floor or Kansas would have had to have a good look at the basket to put them on the line. I am just curious about the play.

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Re: Catch-all miscellaneous "WVU/WV" stuff
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Last night my daughter got her notification that she was accepted to WVU in the Engineering Program. I am very excited and proud that she may follow in mine and her mother's footsteps.

Next important date for her is April 22 when she will audition for "The Pride".

As a result that will mean I get to return more often to the Morgantown area over the next 4 years.

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Re: Blue Adams leaves for USF.
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Not troubling at all: coaches leave programs all the time.

Crook left because he read the writing on the wall with Wickline; his contract wasn't going to be renewed.

You have no idea why Adams left. None of us do. Adams is from Florida, and with his son dying last year from brain cancer, may want to be closer to home. He may be making more money at USF; who knows. Florida doesn't have a state income tax which could mean more money in the bank.


Does anyone on here think that any of the coaches on this staff did such a great job that we can't possibly let them go? I don't. Don't get me wrong I am not a hater but we were slightly above average in a down conference this year. If you want to stay; let's see where this goes in the next few years. If you want to go, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I sure didn't see anything about our cornerbacks that impressed me much in our bowl game....did anyone else?

Pretty sure there is another CB coach out there that can do as good a job or better.


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Re: Rape U back in the news
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Actually, in this instance Baylor University is supposed to be held to a higher standard than our institution. The basic tenet of the University is to allow the student to go to college in a Christian atmosphere. I am sure that the Christian atmosphere isn't rape and obstruction of justice. This issue, if the University was living to the principles that supposedly demand a $40,000 per year tuition, should have been dealt with swiftly and severely.

I nor others expect the people of the University to be perfect or blameless but...come on....when violence is happening to your female student population you have to put their well being above the program.

At the end of the day, their "commitment" to "Christian" values was no better than Joe Pa and Spanner (sp?) at Ped State.

EDIT: Here is how they market themselves:

I don't see WVU marketing themselves about secular values and character.

http://www.baylor.edu/character/index.php?id=866521

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Re: Fukushima Radation
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http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Compa ... -Fukushima-reactor-vessel

Melted fuel likely leaked out into a reactor's containment vessel at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant and is emitting deadly radiation inside, Tokyo Electric Power Co. Holdings reported on Thursday.

Tepco inspected the inside of the No. 2 reactor's containment vessel in late January by inserting a camera on a telescoping pole. The resulting images showed a 1-sq.-meter hole apparently melted into a steel-grating walkway directly beneath the reactor pressure vessel, all but confirming that there was a leak.

Based on the "noise" in the images, the utility estimated that one area of the containment vessel was emitting radiation at a level of 530 sieverts per hour -- enough to kill a human in under a minute. Only emissions up to 73 Sv/hour had been detected before at the reactor, which was crippled by a March 2011 tsunami.


This is one of 3 reactors that all likely suffered the same fate.

Next month marks 6 years.




....and how many people have died from this? None. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

How many people have died directly attributable to the effects of coal fired power plants in this time?

45,000

This assumes that only 7,500 die each year now. In 2010 the number was over 24,000 and that was reduced to 13,000 so these numbers above are conservative.

In fact, for each death from nuclear power the world will see, there will be 4,000 deaths from coal.

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