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Re: Final game of season - Iowa State
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I agree, if we DON'T beat IS, then Prepare your Anus, because it will get ugly.


I agree completely. This melt-down will make others look tranquil.

I see the couch breaking into 3 factions; 1. The bring Rich Rod back after hanging Holgorsen. 2. The Bill Stewart is a better coach today than Holgorsen camp who would like to hang Holgorsen and let Stew be the coach posthumously. 3. The camp that wants to hang Holgorsen AND Luck and would be willing to award the HC position to Yup-Yup posthumously.

Each faction will go into the nether regions of the couch foraging in the fat of the threads and fashioning crude weapons out of small saplings and rocks. Finally the 3 meet-up in the Soapbox with a bloody battle to the death of all.....


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With the rest of us watching in utter amazement and awe of the carnage before us.

For God's Sake man! Someone explain to Holgorsen and the team how much this game means!!!!!

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Re: Ferguson
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Re: According to SI.Com NCAA might not let any Miramar kids play
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Test scores do not even come close to GPA. I know many people with 3.5 or higher in the WV school system that couldn't score above 1000 on the old 1600 Scale SAT. Just making the point that all things are not equal or measurable across the board.


Well I completely agree with that but the point I made is still valid. If the kid has a 2.5 grade point average and can't make the minimum SAT score to get in and play athletics, it is evident that he DID NOT earn that grade point average. High school grade point averages, while inflated are a little more consistent now than when I went to school. At the same time, there is no reason the records don't have all of the students standardized tests. If these don't coincide with a population of students across the country that received about a 2.5 GPA I would be VERY suspicious of his grades. I would certainly have him retake the test and if the results were the same would consider the GPA questionable at best.

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Re: Conference rankings
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Bob Huggins is saying he is not going to have set lineup that it will change game to game. This reminds of the 2012-2013 season, and it usually is not good.


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I'm a homer, but I'm reading this as a good thing. Meaning, we have guys, that can run with anyone, and just play ball. If we don't have to move players, out of position, then we have a good lineup. Not one we have to tailor, for our opponents.


The background has to why he said it makes it either good or bad. After watching the team a little this year, I think it is good news.

Case 1 for I don't have a set lineup:

I have a group of players in which everyone is pretty mediocre and I will use playing time and a reduction in playing time as motivators/demotivators. I really see little difference in the end result. This is NOT good.

Case 2 for I don't have a set lineup:

I have an excellent group of guys that ALL play at a high level when in the game. As a result I reward all of the hard work with starts. Each member understands that even if they don't start they will play a large portion of the game. We are deep fairly interchangeable. This is VERY good.

I think this years team may not quite be the latter but it is darn close. Can you imagine being able to sit your two studs for 3 or 4 minutes and still maintain the same lead as when they came off? I don't think I have ever seen that at WVU!

EDIT: ....at least not against the #17 team in the country regardless of how over rated they are.

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Re: Ferguson
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Maybe I misread something, but didn't they say that the first couple shots grazed brown at which point he turned around and came back after the officer? So he kept coming after him after he had already been hit? If that's the case, it seems justified to me. Do they teach police officers wound shots?


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I've said all along that it isn't a racial issue. It's an excessive force issue. It's easy for me to say, but I don't think kill shot(s) were necessary.


Has anyone here seen the autopsy drawing? The man was shot 6 times. The last shot killed him. Here is an idea.....when you get shot the first time, take the hint and realize it isn't in your best interest to continue.

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From the image we see the shots. The last shot was in the eye. All shots were from the front contrary to what was stated by "eyewitnesses". If you shoot me in the hand I am going to stop what I am doing and fall down....but that is just me.

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Re: Final game of season - Iowa State
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Oh I know you're going to say "Well Hoke didn't have to change conferences" and "Well its the Big 10" and "Michigan gets better players" and etc etc etc. Still has been better than Dana in that span and yet Dana "A-OK" with a ton of you and Hoke is a national joke.


Non-biased rating systems rate the Big 10 significantly below the Big 12. That is a fact. The other fact is that 20-17/17-19 are not all that different. As others on here have alluded to we are a couple of field goals away from being 4-8 blah,blah, blah.....we were a couple points last year from being 8-4....blah, blah, blah.

The Big 12 contains TCU, WVU and Iowa State. All of whom beat teams in the Big 10. In fact the Big 12 record against the Big 10 is 3-0. Pretty solid proof ON THE FIELD that the Big 12 is better than the Big 10.

In my opinion, Michigan fired Rich too soon. Michigan probably has fired Hoke too soon. At the end of the day I don't really care about Michigan and I certainly wouldn't want to pattern my coaching hires and fires on them. That makes about as much sense as patterning my academics after the University of North Carolina.

I am not making excuses for Dana. As I said I couldn't care less about Michigan. I do think that some stability in our program will help. Does someone think that there is someone out there that is SO MUCH better than Dana that it would justify the negative stigma of ripping the program apart? I don't see it. Luck knows what is going on in the program, if I were there day in and day out I would know too and could make a better decision about it but I am not so I can only assume that the people in charge are making the best decisions. I have yet to see Luck make a decision that has hurt the University regardless of what John Raese says.

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Re: UNC trashes Dukes guest locker room after win...
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Way to stay classy UNC....Way to stay classy.

See.....if we learned our behavior from these schools we would be in the ACC right now. Who wouldn't want that?

ME!

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Re: UCONN in PR Championship game
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I think that "non-bracketed Round Puerto Rico Tournament" just means it's not part of that tournament, even though it's worded pretty awkwardly.


I see what you mean. Yes, that was worded awkwardly and it would have been clearer, I think, had they put nothing beside it. I assumed it was affiliated with that tournament. The note lead me to believe that it WAS a round of the tournament.

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Re: UCONN in PR Championship game
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just our of curiosity, what would have happened if we had played them in the tourney? Would we have still played them again a week later since we were already scheduled to?


I don't think so. I think we would have played George Mason maybe. It says on the WV Sports web-site "Non-Bracketed Round Puerto Rico Tournament). So I think we would have played the same team from the other side of the bracket. Others can correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: According to SI.Com NCAA might not let any Miramar kids play
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For some guys they work all year to qualify. Coaches know where kids stand, some are close to making the cut, others are far off. I know coaches keep tabs on a kid who is close but cut the ones who aren't close loose.

I'm not sure if anyone lets kids "greyshirt" anymore. I know the SEC and ACC don't allow it anymore. That is essentially a redshirt year, a kid gets into college and has to make the grade and prove they are on track to graduate in 5 years. If they can come in and maintain a 2.0 or higher GPA and progress towards a degree in 5 years or less they get to play the 4 years after the greyshirt.


I think that the Big East was the last of the BCS conferences to ban partial qualifiers. I think none of the big 5 allow them.

Posted on: 11/21 12:01 pm
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Re: muschamp
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But "lights out?"

Not really, or we would have won the game.


Being devil's advocate here, holding the #12 team in the country to 19 points is pretty good. I would agree that I might not go to the extreme of saying "lights out" but that is pretty good especially when the opponent is given the ball by our offense close to the red zone to start out. I think that the defense played pretty well with the exception of the D-Line who needed to do something they don't do well and pressure the QB.

Posted on: 11/21 11:54 am
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Re: muschamp
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Dear Moderators:

This post is Plaintiff's exhibit #1 as to why noobs should not have the right to start a thread until they have at least 100 posts.

Please consider this evidence and Plaintiff's Motion for Summary Judgment.

Respectfully submitted,

LesterBoy


Can we turn this into some sort of class action suit? Notice I didn't reply to the actual post.

Posted on: 11/21 11:51 am
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Re: Has Dana lost this team?
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Well..........what do you think now....


Actually, I don't think I saw anything last night that led me to believe there is a lack of effort or not caring. Here is what I saw (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I would like to hear them):

1. You can't make the mistakes in the numbers we made and beat very many teams. You eliminate those mistakes and we win comfortably.

2. Deforest gets a lot of crap and I am the first one to say that he is overpaid....BUT...The punt return for a touchdown HAD to be a botched punt. There was no one on the side of the field that the score happened on.

3. I can't believe you have to tell a kid that when he decides not to catch a ball in the midst of multiple opponents that he should get away from the ball. I saw Dana tell him this on the sideline. I was amazed at how calm Dana was telling him this.....I would not have been.

4. Related to 2 and 3 above....How is it that 5 of our punt blocking team simply got beat by their man on the fumble. i understand we went for the block so they would be outnumbered but EVEN the guys that our guys WERE BLOCKING blew past them. If upfield blockers don't even touch their man I have little hope we will ever fix our special teams problems

5. Bill Snyder showed you how to beat any team last regardless of your talent level and theirs. Simply make fewer mistakes on defense than the other guy. We had a pass in the middle of the field that if the guy doesn't make a one on one tackle we score a touchdown maybe. He made that tackle. We don't consistently do that they did.

6. This crew performs like the late days of Nehlen and the early days of Rich. They make stupid mistakes week in and week out and we don't ever learn from them.

7. Clint Trickett doesn't have it. I don't know if he is playing a thinking game that none of his receivers are playing but it is evident that the receivers seldom do what he thinks they are going to do. When that happens....maybe it is time to change your expectations of what they are going to do. It helps no one to keep saying they broke the wrong way. I sincerely hope the problem is the cold weather and those gloves but even when he has open receivers he misses them.

8. We need a dominant nose tackle and one dominant defensive end. We just get little pressure on the QB even after a significant amount of time after the snap unless we rush 5. Our D-Line is very susceptible to the old fashion power football, two blockers at the point of attack.

I don't really see a lack of effort. I thought they fought hard till the end. I mean a team that gives up doesn't score 17 points in the second half. Change fumble on the 4 to a touchdown or a field goal. Change the punt return of KS from a touchdown to a field goal. We win the game. That was the #12 team in the country!

Posted on: 11/21 7:55 am
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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It shows that what WVU really needs is a better coach than Dana has been to this point.


You seem to forget two things.

1. Bill Snyder is as old as Yoda...maybe older.
2. Dana Holgorsen is not.

Check the records of both for their comperative coaching "ages".

After 3 years.

DH 21-17 .553
BS 13-20 .394

I will take DH thank you.

Posted on: 11/20 3:41 pm
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Re: According to SI.Com NCAA might not let any Miramar kids play
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I don't know how you could tell if the grades are legit or not ? I don't see a problem with the kids getting in. Except Durante. That will be a roller coaster from hell


If the NCAA Clearinghouse thinks the grades are bogus they can just weigh the test scores higher.

In the end ALL student athletes go through the Clearinghouse...even the ones with no problems.

If the kid is coming out with a 3.0 and can't get a 1400/2400 on their SATs there is a problem with the grades. Grade manipulation on a large scale can be found out. It isn't really that hard.

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Re: Coach Rumor
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Football Scoop says that inside sources tell them Doc is a serious candidate. I find that hard to believe but its there in black and white.

Posted on: 11/19 3:17 pm
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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Now I can't argue with that. But there have been several teams with lots of 5 stars that weren't worth a crap. Florida wasn't very good under Ron Zook, then had a run similar to Alabama's under Meyer, then sunk back again with Muschamp.


Would not argue with that one bit. At the same time, it makes the evaluation of coaching easier in my opinion. I couldn't in good conscious ever argue that Mac Brown should have stayed at Texas because, his teams underperformed the last few years...badly. Think about Alabama under anyone not named Saban or Bryant. There are a number of coaches in there that are VERY forgettable. If you can't win at Alabama, you aren't a good coach.

The same can be said for Zook and Muschamp. As the Florida AD said....It was tough to fire him he is such a nice guy. Unfortunately, maybe that is the problem. In the end, the stars tell you what you have with raw talent. If we don't consistently beat Kansas State starting now I would have to say that I would have real reservations about DH.

Posted on: 11/19 12:51 pm
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Re: WVU has more talent on roster than KSU
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eatschmitt,

Texas has won a national championship since.....well....any team that hasn't had 5 star recruits.

Here is the list of National Champions since 2000.

2000 Oklahoma
2001 Miami
2002 Ohio State
2003 LSU/USC
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2011 Alabama
2012 Alabama
2013 Florida State

So Florida and Texas do indeed have 4 star athletes and an 11-9 record but also almost 25% of the national championships in the last 13 years. How many National Championships does Kansas State have? Can you see one program in that list above that isn't stacked towards 5 star athletes and/or can not trace their success to previous year recruiting classes in the top 10?

Give Charlie Strong some time. You will also find it doesn't take as long to turn around a program full of 5 star athletes as it does to turn around say....Louisville.

On a lighter note, I just checked vegas and we are a 2 point favorite. Imagine that! I don't see it but that is the way the betting is going.

Posted on: 11/19 12:34 pm
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Re: Ferguson
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The cop won't be indicted. The second thing I am pretty sure about is that while there will be some trouble from Ferguson the majority of the really bad stuff will be by people NOT from the area.

That is where I fault Sharpton-likes. (I didn't follow this too much so I don't even know if he was there) They go off like a half cocked gun, stir up people with no facts and then slink away.

Wheelert, I am with you. As soon as I heard the announcement of a state of emergency I know which way this is going.

If there is NO indictment the people, like CNN, who stirred this up should apologize to the people of Ferguson.

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Re: Ferguson
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Betcha a dollar to a donut he isn't indicted.



Hahahahahahaha! I see what you did there. Donut.....policeman......classic!

Posted on: 11/19 9:59 am
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