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Re: Jack Says FarmPitt: The official K-State game thread.
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Damn, bro. Whatever happened to WVU? Geno Smith went from Heisman candidate to suddenly pedestrian. And the defense well, continues to be absolutely useless. WVU football has instantly become a tragic trailer park fire. I'm horrified, yet I can't look away.

Posted on: 10/20/2012 8:38 pm
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Re: Jack Says Texas Tech: Unofficial make it right for Mike game thread.
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Wow, the WVU defense BLOWS.

Posted on: 10/13/2012 5:02 pm
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Re: Wanted: WV vs LSU used ticket stub
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As of right now, LSU and WVU both have 3 BCS wins.... Guess you we will find out tonight how long we stay tied.


Listen, I've started to become an WVU fan this season. Don't ruin it by comparing the two programs like this. The Big East AQ playing wretched ACC teams when neither team is ranked in the top ten isn't the same thing. The Orange Bowl has been a joke for almost a decade now.

This is our 3rd National Championship appearance in 9 years. WVU has a nice thing going and is a respectable program, but....just don't.

Posted on: 1/9/2012 12:25 pm
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Re: Wanted: WV vs LSU used ticket stub
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Spoken like a true Big 12/Big East fan. Watching these 70-40 games this year has been sad. Play some damn defense every once in a while. If you get good at stopping your opponent, often times you'll find it boosts your chances at winning.

Posted on: 1/9/2012 11:27 am
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Re: Wanted: WV vs LSU used ticket stub
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Roll Tide!


Don't worry, we're going to handle business tonight.

Posted on: 1/9/2012 10:40 am
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Re: Wanted: WV vs LSU used ticket stub
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Roll Tide.


You don't mean that.

Posted on: 1/9/2012 10:39 am
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Re: LSU faking injuries against UT!!!!!
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RadioShark,

As I told you guys before- a lot of smack talk went down before the game from both sides. But after the game, it's all good between two worthy opponents.

Hell, I pretty sure I got called every name in the book by some of you. Let it go, man.


No


Do you really want me to go classless and personal? It's not my style, but I can do it.

Posted on: 11/25/2011 6:59 pm
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Re: LSU faking injuries against UT!!!!!
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RadioShark,

As I told you guys before- a lot of smack talk went down before the game from both sides. But after the game, it's all good between two worthy opponents.

Hell, I pretty sure I got called every name in the book by some of you. Let it go, man.

Posted on: 11/25/2011 6:51 pm
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If It Makes You Feel Any Better...
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Now that we are through our regular season, W. Virgina gave our defense the toughest challenge all year. I told Arkansas fans that they wouldn't be half as effective as you guys were and I was right.

Good luck next year and look for future success in the Big 12.

Posted on: 11/25/2011 6:24 pm
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Re: Big East Winner
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Dee, don't run from my love. We could get matching flatbill hats and take the world by storm with our white trashiness. Come over to the dark side and stop repressing your inner trailer park.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 5:42 pm
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Re: Big East Winner
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What's up, Dee? How life treating you?

Posted on: 11/22/2011 5:07 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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Just don't understand why fans like you just want to beat up Ohio state every year or ask for a rematch with someone in their own conference.


I want to play the best team left that we haven't beaten. For the record, almost all LSU fans are staunchly opposed to a rematch with Bama. We beat them already in their house. Why should we have to beat them twice, plus play an additional SEC championship game against another top opponent while they get to sit at home with a free ticket punched to the BCSCG? That's some hardcore BS and if we are lucky enough to beat Arky and Georgia to make to the big game, I hope the pollsters see it our way. I think we should play the best remaining one loss team that we haven't faced.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 4:47 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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If you want to make it objective, which I think it should be, then limit it to conference winners plus. How can a team that has not won its conference complain that it cannot play for a national title? Plus, the teams that have won their conferences will have the chance to play for a championship on the field. If they get bounced in round 1, so be it. They had their shot. If two teams from the same conference play in the title game, so be it. They won their way in.


Your plan is still not objective. It's rooted in the assumption that all conference winners are equal and deserve to play for the national championship. A 9-3 winner of Mountain West Conference is not equal to the 13-0 winner of the SEC that beat 8 ranked teams.

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How is a playoff system that includes conference winners punishing teams for playing in a tough conference?


Because in your system, a conference winner- regardless of which conference that is- would get into your playoff. Meanwhile, your system would cast much better teams from the SEC, Big 12, Pac-12, etc out for not winning their conference, despite the fact that any of those teams would crush a 9-3 Cincy or Nevada team.

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You are confusing giving the smaller conference teams a chance to compete on the field with giving them preferential treatment. It isn't preferential, it is identical.


When a 9-3 Northern Illinois winner of the Mid-American Conference is treated identically to a 13-0 LSU team that has won games against 8 ranked opponents, then yes it IS preferential- to Northern Illinois.

Bottom line, I'm not for a playoff whatsoever. I'm merely pointing out the flaws in a playoff system that gives each conference winner a seat at the table regardless of record while better teams sit at home.

IMO, the BCS has done a great job in pairing the two best teams in college football since its inception (the 2004 season notwithstanding). My only tweak would be that the BCS drop its conference affiliation silliness and go with the best teams as determined by SOS, W/L, and quality opponents.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 4:43 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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LSUisComing ... You don't understand FAIR.

If you include the Conference Champions from all conferences, then you WILL affect recruiting.

THAT will insert FAIRNESS into college football, especially recruiting.

You, on the otherhand, want to continue to exclude certain "lesser" conferences. And that will only serve to reinforce the UNFAIRNESS in recruiting and thereby continue down the UNFAIRNESS road that we are on now.

Why do you think they stopped allowing unlimted scholarships to begin with???

Do you think LSU would be competing with Alabama if Alabama could still have 300 kids standing on thier sidelines???

Why do you think Joe Paterno won so many games???

Your only goal is to PROTECT the current UNFAIRNESS because it favors YOUR conference SHAME ON YOU!!!


College kids will always want to go to the best programs with the best facilities. Try as you might, Western Kentucky University will never be as good as USC. What you're proposing sounds like football socialism- pretend that the winner of the Horizon League is as good as the winner of the Big 12 and bring them all to the table as equal partners. To think that will even out recruiting is overly simplistic.

As for the standardizing the number of scholarships, I think most people recognize that as a good thing. It's the same way in most college and all professional sports as well. You get x number of roster spots per team and that's it.

PS- After reading your posts in this thread, it's my opinion that you need to go easy with the punctuation marks. Every sentence doesn't need to end in three exclamation or question marks. You don't need to use a sledgehammer where a mallet will do. Thanks.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 1:57 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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@sg44gold

Let's do this without name-calling and generalizing, shall we?

Posted on: 11/22/2011 1:49 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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The BCS would be more fair if the first "poll" was witheld until the 4th or 5th game of the season. Preseason/early season polls add nothing but bias to the system.


The first BCS poll isn't released until Week 9. The AP doesn't even figure into things whatsoever and just gives fans something to talk around the water cooler about.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 1:14 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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@eers88, like my discussion with bolt, it comes down to your definition of what the word fair means. Thus, it'll always be subjective and we will just have to agree to disagree.

I don't think the winner of Conference USA, the Mountain West or Big East should get into the playoffs (especially after this season when the BE is going to be an absolute joke) while teams better than them get left out.

Under one of the proposed plans, for example, 11 of the teams will come from conference championships while the remaining 5 are at large bids. That's going to leave some very good teams like Nebraska, Michigan State, Arkansas, Alabama, Virginia Tech, Oregon, Oklahoma, Georgia, Kansas State, etc out in the cold, when clearly any of those teams are superior to the winner of the Conference USA.

I view this as punishing the best teams for playing in tough conferences.

As far as Boise, TCU and Houston proving they can play with the big boys, I think we both know they aren't on the same level. Like Utah in the Pac-12 this year, if you put Boise or Houston in the SEC, they'd get murdered.

Anyhow, like bolt says, at this point it just comes down to opinion and the discussion is just mental masterbation for the fun of it. I think we just have been shaped by our experiences as college football fans of our respective programs. You are more apt to support a broader, more inclusive playoff involving "the little guys" while I am more likely to support the top two teams being rewarded for their efforts during the season.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 1:11 pm
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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In a playoff system this debate would be settled. If a Boise State, TCU, or Houston gets beat in the first round then they weren't good enough. If they win their first round game but lose their second, then you can say they got up for the one game but couldn't handle playing two games like that in a row. But, if they made it to the championship, then they would have earned it.


In the playoff format I suggested, any team that wins the championship earned it on the field.


I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I am of the opinion that Boise State, TCU, or Houston isn't as good as the fourth best team in the Big 10, Big 12 or SEC. I wouldn't give any of those teams a seat at the table in a playoff.

You mention that all that would be settled on the field, but if I had an 8 team playoff, they wouldn't be in it. My 8 this year would be (in no particular order):

-LSU
-Alabama
-Oklahoma State
-Oklahoma
-Oregon
-Stanford
-Arkansas
-Clemson/Va Tech (whoever wins between the two)

And a 16 team playoff would completely devalue the regular season (if an 8 team playoff wouldn't do that already).

As for the reason why I don't think LSU should have to play a Houston or TCU or Boise in a playoff game, it wouldn't be fair because of their contrasting schedules. LSU, by the end of the season, will have played 9 ranked teams. Every week has been a battle against the nation's finest teams. Meanwhile, Houston has been playing teams like Tulane, San Diego State and Idaho State. Hell, Boise beat one ranked team in the first game of the year and people have used that to proclaim them football gods.

So what is LSU's reward after playing the most difficult schedule in college football? Now they have to win a 16 team tournament in which anything can happen.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 10:37 am
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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Just saying the BCS hasn't been exactly kind to wvu those bowls were earned if PITT would have went down in 07 and we played ohio state in the NC with a record of 11-1 I would have agreed the BCS has been kind to us but everything WVU has won they have earned.


I agree. No argument there.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 12:40 am
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Re: BCS is BS, This is the time for a playoff system.
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MarshallCo wrote:
The two BCS bowls WVU has been to and won had records of 11-1 and 10-2 going in WVU earned those spots unlike whoever does this year and UCONN last year.


I agree. I generally hold WVU out of the negative spotlight that I view the rest of the BE is in because a) they are leaving it and b) they are a much better, more established program with more to offer than the rest of the BE.

I think in 3-5 seasons, most of the posters will agree that doling out BCS bowls as appeasement to lesser quality schools is not good for the football fan or fair to the players that play it.

Posted on: 11/22/2011 12:34 am
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