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Re: Groundbreaking research from ShPitt
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I thought Willie Nelson already did this research. Did the Pitt study plagiarize ol' Willie?

Willie Nelson: Ten with a Two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPJQ23Lpejg

Posted on: 7/20 2:13 pm
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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I guess if you grew up in metro Atlanta, Morgantown looks like Colorado.

I don't know about Martin. He might wind up at Rutgers. He might come here. I think the Showtime camp a week from Saturday will help clear things up. We have 2-3 spots for a safety and he is in the conversation still. So is Richardson.

I think this class has the potential to be solid. There are still a lot of good players out there with us in their top groups. I think Devonshire will commit soon. That seems to be the chatter. He will hopefully be commit number 9, 11 counting the blue shirts.

I can't see us getting anywhere near double digits with JUCOs though. I am pretty confident we take a JUCO tackle, and we will likely take two if McKivitz leaves early. We are looking at a JUCO DT in Savion Williams. We have offered a couple of JUCO safeties, but I think we have plenty of high school guys to fill that need. We have offered a JUCO guard who might be a take in time. I doubt we go the JUCO route at QB, as there isn't a lot to choose from this year. We might do a JUCO LB if David Long decides to leave early. We also might want a JUCO WR if the staff is not confident that this year's freshmen will be ready to shoulder a big load in 2019.

The JUCO number could be as low as 1-2 this year, but I really doubt it will exceed 5. I do think we take a conventional transfer at QB, however.

Posted on: 7/18 5:17 pm
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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Yes, Fortune makes commit number 8 (10 counting the two blue shirts). So far, we have 5 on defense (DE Lee, DE Thornton, LB Kpogba, LB Grantham, and CB Fortune), 3 on offense (WR Stoudemire, WR wright, and OT Beaver), and 2 on special teams (K McGhee, P Davies).

We have room for about 12 more recruits right now, maybe 13 if things break right. I fully expect the coaching staff to hold 2-3 slots open for off-season movements, such as attrition or key NFL early departures (David Long or Colton McKivitz). I also fully expect us to be in the market for a transfer QB.

That said, here is how I see recruiting continuing on:

QB: We need a 2019-eligible QB. This slot will be filled either with a HS player or a JUCO. Too early to tell who that will be. Lot of time left. Grier having a big season can't hurt.

RB: We take one, I think. Tony Mathis has us in his top 2, between us and Louisville. The Cards have a small class this year and already have a RB pledged, so I like our chances there.

TE: none expected

WR: Stoudemire and Wright are in. We will look for one more. Yusuf Terry has visited and it is between us and Baylor. Isaiah Hazel is supposed to be here at the end of the month and his top school is home-state Maryland. Lots of others are in play right now. Not worried on this one. We will find a good fit.

OT: Beaver is in. I expect one more HS tackle. Zach Williamson from Spring Valley is in the mix, as are a few others. Hard to say right now who that will be. I also wouldn't be surprised to see us grab a JUCO tackle with the graduation of Yodny Cajuste. A lot of that depends on how the staff feels like Kelby Wickline, Tyler Thurmond, or Junior Uzebu can perform in the spotlight. A JUCO here would be a safe recruit.

OG/OC We might only have room for one here. We have lots of good interior guys on the roster coming back for 2019. Still pretty early to see one name emerging.

DL: Lee and Thornton are in. I would expect two more in. The #1 JUCO DT Savion Williams visited, but has since been offered by UGa and Tennessee. Who knows? Several others have expressed interest. I would hope that we try to repeat the 8-man rotation on the DL we should have this year in 2019. DL looks to be a strong area the next 2-3 years.

LB: Kpogba and Grantham are in. Keeping Kpogba in is priority number one. He is being courted by Tennessee. With only Qualls graduating from the unit, we might actually be done here. We might go after one more, and certainly would if Kpogba flipped, but we will see.

CB: Fortune is in. Aliquippa CB Marlon Devonshire is probably our top target. He seems to want to commit soon. If it is for the good guys, we are done unless we can get Joey Poter Jr. as well. He is not likely, but his main suitors are filling up their classes. We would take Porter regardless. He is that good.

S: We are looking at 4-5 guys right now for probably three slots. Tykee Smith is a bandit. Osita Smith is a spur. Amir Richardson could play multiple positions or even beef up into a linebacker. They are the three favorites right now. Kerry Martin seems to be leaning toward Rutgers. Others could be in the mix too.

Specialists: McGhee and Davies are in. We are done.

That's the run down as of now.

Posted on: 7/15 1:03 pm
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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My opinion only, but the class seems to be shaping up pretty well. We don't have a lot of immediate needs that must be addressed, and this class should have a much higher percentage of high school guys than in years past. We might have close to 20 high school guys by the time we are finished.

Most of the guys that will be on the 2019 two-deep are already on the roster now. These guys from 2019 will provide depth at positions and most have the potential to develop into solid players in 2-3 years.

Already committed:
P Angus Davies (blue shirt)
DE Tavis Lee (blue shirt)
K Kolton McGhee
LB Lee Kpogba
LB Dwayne Grantham
DE Jalen Thornton
WR Deshon Stoudemire
WR Winston Wright
OT Donavan Beaver

Most likely to commit at some point:
CB Nicktroy Fortune (announcing tomorrow)
CB Marlon Devonshire
S Tykee Smith
S Amir Richardson
S Osita Smith
RB Tony Mathis

The rest is still a little cloudy. There are prospects, but there are too many unknowns at this point.

Posted on: 7/14 6:08 pm
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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WVU cornerback target Nicktroy Fortune set to make his decision tomorrow. WVU is sitting pretty well with him. He would be the 8th overall commit for 2019 should he pick the good guys.

We are blue-shirting two 2018 recruits for the 2019 class, Tavis Lee and Angus Davies. so that would make 10 bodies counting toward 2019. Assuming we save 2-3 spots to deal with issues after signing day, we should have 12-13 slots left for the class.

We have names associated with most of the slots so the 2019 class is coming along.

Posted on: 7/14 11:42 am
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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We don't have room for a TE this year. We have 3 coming back next year, all junior level or below. The 25-man scholarship limit is a killer. He is rated lower than Haskins and Banks, while higher than O'Laughlin.

Again, he knows the deal. Come and camp. Martin was offered by Rutgers before us. What did he do to show he wanted that WVU offer? He came and camped for it. And you know what? He got it. Strange may too, but he won't get offered without camping, and he shouldn't. He didn't get his OSU offer without camping.

If the kid from Weir wants a power 5 offer, come and camp! What is so hard about that? Williamson found his way up to Mtown. So did Martin and Richardson. Heck, even Nester came up for big man camp and he is already committed to OSU.


Posted on: 7/9 5:29 pm
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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No idea why we haven't offered Strange for Parkersburg and Tyler Komorowski from Weir. Both can easily play here smh

Strange knows the deal. He has to camp to get an offer. We aren't taking a TE this cycle, and if he wants to be offered at LB or any other position, he needs to come up to camp and work out. If he can't drive an hour and a half up to Morgantown to work out for an offer, he doesn't really want one all that badly. Simple as that.

I imagine the same deal goes for the kid from Weir.

From what I can tell, a scholarship offer to out-of-state kids is like an invitation to come work out. It's not immediately committable. We don't take a kid's commitment sight unseen. In this world of a 25-scholarship limit, it's a recipe for disaster.

With in-state kids, it's a different story. No one wants to see WVU offer 20 in-state kids when only 4 or 5 are good enough to earn a scholarship. So if we offer a kid, it is a real offer, not just an invitation. It might come with a "wait a month or two" but it is still real nonetheless. We can't recruit bodies with the limit; we have to recruit positions, either in the short-term future or long-term future. We don't need a TE this year. If Strange wants an offer, he knows the game - come camp. Kerry Martin earned his offer that way.

Posted on: 7/8 10:18 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Savannah, GA WR Winston Wright becomes the 7th commit for the 2019 class.

Posted on: 7/2 7:03 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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This kid is the second WV HS TE in the 2019 cycle with big boy interest. Brenton Strange from Parkersburg already has offers from Rutgers and Purdue. I doubt WVU offers either of them.

Why? We don't need TEs. We have a redshirt senior in Wesco, a redshirt sophomore in Haskins, and two true freshmen in Banks and O'Laughlin. We have only offered two TEs for the whole 2019 cycle, and we aren't getting either of them. With the recent additions, it isn't a priority. There are greater needs at almost every other roster spot.

I hate to see homegrown kids go elsewhere, but this is just one of those cases of bad timing. If this were last year, we would be all over both of them.

Posted on: 6/4 4:44 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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There is no fuzzy math or loopholes going on. We should know something in a day or two.

Posted on: 5/17 8:12 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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We don't have room for Johnson. We used all our scholarships for 2018. The only way he comes to WVU is as a walk on, and some one will grab him before that ever could materialize.

Posted on: 5/10 7:24 pm
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Re: Lamonte McDougle
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Jameschi,

I think our depth is better than average at both D-line and safety, especially if we are able to secure Jabril Robinson. It would mean DEs Zeke Rose and Reese Donahue starting (both returning starters), with backups in the rotation Robinson, Jeffery Pooler, and Dante Stills. I like that rotation a lot. I also like the 3-man depth at nose with Darius Stills, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Brenon Thrift. That gives us 8 men on the line, with 4 of them seniors. That is depth and experience.

Safety has three returning starters in Dravon, Avery, and Robinson, plus backups Norwoood (JC all American and former Buckeye), Stewart, Brown, and incoming Kwantel Raines. There is still Johns, Smith, and Lindsay. Safety is good. Our second team is very good.

Corner isn't as bad as you think. We have grad-transfer senior Fisher, the incumbent Bailey, Derrek Pitts, and former Wolverine Washington in the 2-deep, along with youngsters Long and Mahone. This unit is a little less experienced than DL or S, but the talent is there. Time for Belk to coach em up.

LB is excellent at the top in Long and maybe Tonk. Can the new guys (Benton, Chandler), the injured (Qualls, Loe, doubtfully Ferns), and the young guys (Sandwisch, Hensley) step up and fill the third slot and the depth? If yes, I think this D can actually be pretty good and deep. Injuries and the learning curve are the obvious wild cards.

Posted on: 4/14 11:17 am
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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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apizzle,

I hear you, but out of all the guys that transferred out, only Shuler was going to see much playing time this year. Word is McDougle wasn't going to play anyway due to rehabbing his shoulder. Losing him for 2019 and beyond will be felt, but 2018 wasn't going to matter for him.

Having said that, I'm cautiously non-pessimistic about DL and CB. If we can avoid any more injuries, I like the DE rotation of Rose, Donahue, Dante, and perhaps Robinson from Clemson, with Darius, Thrift, and Bam Bam Bigelow at nose. Throw in Pooler and Wolfley for a series here and there and that is a serviceable 9-man rotation up front without having to use Gmiter and Allen. CB looks more solid than last year, with Bailey, Long, and Mahone on one side with Washington, Fisher, and Pitts on the other. Everyone is one year older in the system with a transfer senior there. It won't be the 2015 D-backfield, but I think it can be serviceable. I think both units are pretty legit upgrades over last year's models, and last year the D kept us in every game but OU and OSU. Mayfield and Rudolph are gone this year.

LB is a little worrisome, but I think Long and Tonk will thrive. The Sam LB will be interesting, but it was last year too. All the D needs to do is hold serve. This bunch is at least capable of that.

Posted on: 4/10 5:56 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Jameschi,

We can't. With the new rules, we can only sign one more player for the 2018 year. It will likely be a grad transfer DE. It doesn't matter if we are well shy of the 85 overall limit. We can do 25 per year and that is it, unless we blue or gray shirt. That can't start helping until the 2019 recruiting cycle.

Posted on: 4/8 4:42 pm
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Re: Is It Football Yet? Spring FB Thread.
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Denzel Fisher, a grad transfer CB from UCLA, has committed to play for WVU in 2018. He has only the 2018 season remaining for eligibility. WVU has now brought in 24 players for the 2018 season. One to go.

Will it be another D-lineman, or will it be a linebacker?

Last week, I would have said D-lineman in a heartbeat. Now, I think LB is thinner. We will see.

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Re: Is It Football Yet? Spring FB Thread.
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Ferns has a torn ACL. He might return for the season, but it is doubtful.

Posted on: 4/4 11:15 am
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Re: Jordan McCabe commitment? (2018 PG)
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McCabe is signed, along with three others in the class.

https://247sports.com/college/west-vir ... n/2018-Basketball/Commits

Posted on: 3/21 11:15 pm
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Re: Marsha Marsha Marsha GD Thread
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Wheelert, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

Posted on: 3/20 12:43 pm
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Re: Well done Mr Carter
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Today Jevon Carter was named Academic All-American of the Year for men's basketball. He is the second WVU player to win this fantastic award (Jo Herber in 2006). He is the only player from a power 5 conference on the all-academic first team.

What a pleasure it has been having him here for four years. We are all very proud of you, Jevon.

https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com ... C2%AE-of-the-year.170632/

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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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I wonder what the hold up is on Richardson? He seemed gung-ho and now not so much. Don't know if he or the staff is applying the brakes.

It all depends on how Long and McKivitz grade out in the pre-declaration days. If they are not going to really benefit from another year in college, I doubt either one stays. There is an outside chance McKoy is right there with them. McKoy is a Smallwood clone. If he has a junior year like Wendell, he's gone too. That is probably it for likely early-entries.

I actually expect the defense to be pretty good this year. We didn't lose a whole lot (White and Benton will hurt the worst) and a lot of the 2-deep is a year older, stronger, and more experienced. If any 3-4 of Pitts, Long, Mahone, Washington, or Bailey step up at corner, I think the D is solid. There are only 4 seniors on the unit, so it should be dominant (2015 level) in 2019. With the number of sophomores in the 2-deep right now, 2020 looks good too.

The O looks scary good for 2018. If the line gels early and we can avoid injury, the sky is the limit.

Posted on: 3/6 6:13 pm
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