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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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This kid is the second WV HS TE in the 2019 cycle with big boy interest. Brenton Strange from Parkersburg already has offers from Rutgers and Purdue. I doubt WVU offers either of them.

Why? We don't need TEs. We have a redshirt senior in Wesco, a redshirt sophomore in Haskins, and two true freshmen in Banks and O'Laughlin. We have only offered two TEs for the whole 2019 cycle, and we aren't getting either of them. With the recent additions, it isn't a priority. There are greater needs at almost every other roster spot.

I hate to see homegrown kids go elsewhere, but this is just one of those cases of bad timing. If this were last year, we would be all over both of them.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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There is no fuzzy math or loopholes going on. We should know something in a day or two.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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We don't have room for Johnson. We used all our scholarships for 2018. The only way he comes to WVU is as a walk on, and some one will grab him before that ever could materialize.

Posted on: 5/10 7:24 pm
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Re: Lamonte McDougle
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Jameschi,

I think our depth is better than average at both D-line and safety, especially if we are able to secure Jabril Robinson. It would mean DEs Zeke Rose and Reese Donahue starting (both returning starters), with backups in the rotation Robinson, Jeffery Pooler, and Dante Stills. I like that rotation a lot. I also like the 3-man depth at nose with Darius Stills, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Brenon Thrift. That gives us 8 men on the line, with 4 of them seniors. That is depth and experience.

Safety has three returning starters in Dravon, Avery, and Robinson, plus backups Norwoood (JC all American and former Buckeye), Stewart, Brown, and incoming Kwantel Raines. There is still Johns, Smith, and Lindsay. Safety is good. Our second team is very good.

Corner isn't as bad as you think. We have grad-transfer senior Fisher, the incumbent Bailey, Derrek Pitts, and former Wolverine Washington in the 2-deep, along with youngsters Long and Mahone. This unit is a little less experienced than DL or S, but the talent is there. Time for Belk to coach em up.

LB is excellent at the top in Long and maybe Tonk. Can the new guys (Benton, Chandler), the injured (Qualls, Loe, doubtfully Ferns), and the young guys (Sandwisch, Hensley) step up and fill the third slot and the depth? If yes, I think this D can actually be pretty good and deep. Injuries and the learning curve are the obvious wild cards.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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apizzle,

I hear you, but out of all the guys that transferred out, only Shuler was going to see much playing time this year. Word is McDougle wasn't going to play anyway due to rehabbing his shoulder. Losing him for 2019 and beyond will be felt, but 2018 wasn't going to matter for him.

Having said that, I'm cautiously non-pessimistic about DL and CB. If we can avoid any more injuries, I like the DE rotation of Rose, Donahue, Dante, and perhaps Robinson from Clemson, with Darius, Thrift, and Bam Bam Bigelow at nose. Throw in Pooler and Wolfley for a series here and there and that is a serviceable 9-man rotation up front without having to use Gmiter and Allen. CB looks more solid than last year, with Bailey, Long, and Mahone on one side with Washington, Fisher, and Pitts on the other. Everyone is one year older in the system with a transfer senior there. It won't be the 2015 D-backfield, but I think it can be serviceable. I think both units are pretty legit upgrades over last year's models, and last year the D kept us in every game but OU and OSU. Mayfield and Rudolph are gone this year.

LB is a little worrisome, but I think Long and Tonk will thrive. The Sam LB will be interesting, but it was last year too. All the D needs to do is hold serve. This bunch is at least capable of that.

Posted on: 4/10 5:56 pm
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Jameschi,

We can't. With the new rules, we can only sign one more player for the 2018 year. It will likely be a grad transfer DE. It doesn't matter if we are well shy of the 85 overall limit. We can do 25 per year and that is it, unless we blue or gray shirt. That can't start helping until the 2019 recruiting cycle.

Posted on: 4/8 4:42 pm
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Re: Is It Football Yet? Spring FB Thread.
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Denzel Fisher, a grad transfer CB from UCLA, has committed to play for WVU in 2018. He has only the 2018 season remaining for eligibility. WVU has now brought in 24 players for the 2018 season. One to go.

Will it be another D-lineman, or will it be a linebacker?

Last week, I would have said D-lineman in a heartbeat. Now, I think LB is thinner. We will see.

Posted on: 4/7 1:02 pm
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Re: Is It Football Yet? Spring FB Thread.
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Ferns has a torn ACL. He might return for the season, but it is doubtful.

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Re: Jordan McCabe commitment? (2018 PG)
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McCabe is signed, along with three others in the class.

https://247sports.com/college/west-vir ... n/2018-Basketball/Commits

Posted on: 3/21 11:15 pm
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Re: Marsha Marsha Marsha GD Thread
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Wheelert, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

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Re: Well done Mr Carter
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Today Jevon Carter was named Academic All-American of the Year for men's basketball. He is the second WVU player to win this fantastic award (Jo Herber in 2006). He is the only player from a power 5 conference on the all-academic first team.

What a pleasure it has been having him here for four years. We are all very proud of you, Jevon.

https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com ... C2%AE-of-the-year.170632/

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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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I wonder what the hold up is on Richardson? He seemed gung-ho and now not so much. Don't know if he or the staff is applying the brakes.

It all depends on how Long and McKivitz grade out in the pre-declaration days. If they are not going to really benefit from another year in college, I doubt either one stays. There is an outside chance McKoy is right there with them. McKoy is a Smallwood clone. If he has a junior year like Wendell, he's gone too. That is probably it for likely early-entries.

I actually expect the defense to be pretty good this year. We didn't lose a whole lot (White and Benton will hurt the worst) and a lot of the 2-deep is a year older, stronger, and more experienced. If any 3-4 of Pitts, Long, Mahone, Washington, or Bailey step up at corner, I think the D is solid. There are only 4 seniors on the unit, so it should be dominant (2015 level) in 2019. With the number of sophomores in the 2-deep right now, 2020 looks good too.

The O looks scary good for 2018. If the line gels early and we can avoid injury, the sky is the limit.

Posted on: 3/6 6:13 pm
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Re: Poor Kid
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Poor kid for sure. And he will be traumatized for life.

As for the predator, she had better be made to register as a sex offender, spend a good long time in prison, and never even sniff the inside of a school ever again. Child molestation is one of the worst things that exists on this earth. And that is exactly what she did. Not only did she use him to gratify herself, she bought him drugs to boot. Wow.

Posted on: 3/2 7:25 am
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Re: 2019 WVU Football Recruiting Thread
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This thread has been dead for 3 1/2 weeks. No new additions for 2019, but offers are rolling out at a brisk pace. With all the recent attrition from scholarship players, what originally seemed to be a smaller than normal recruiting class looks like it will have 25 or very close to it. I expect somewhere in the neighborhood of the following:

1 QB (Brian Maurer and Garrett Shrader are the early front runners, losing Grier obviously)
1 RB (hard to say who at this point)
3-4 WR (again, lots of offers going out and no clear picture yet, losing Sills, Jennings, Maiden, and Crest. Already lost Rogers)
2-3 OT (losing Cajuste and maybe McKivitz to the draft, 2019 picture still foggy)
1-2 OG (losing Hardy and J. Brown, nothing emerging yet)
TE doubtful, but who knows?
3-4 DL (lost Shuler and Fields already and will lose Rose, already have Thornton, have interest from a couple other Ohio kids, namely Isaiah Gibson)
3-4 LB (losing Qualls and hopefully not Long, already have Kpogba and Grantham. Need a MLB)
2-3 CB (strong interest from Marlon Devonshire and a couple of others, still early)
2-3 S (losing Askew-Henry and Avery, strong interest from a handful including Amir Richardson, Jayvon Thrift, and Jaquan Brisker. Still early)
1 K - Kolton McGhee already committed

It's going to be interesting.

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Re: WVU Football Thread for Things That Don't Need Their Own Thread
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In roster news, QB David Israel has left the team. His route to playing time was heavily congested at best.

In more serious news, DE Adam Shuler has decided to leave WVU. He wants to pursue track and field, a sport at which he excelled in high school. That drops the number of scholarship players for the fall to 76. They can still sign three more newcomers.

The loss of Israel won't affect a whole lot. The loss of Shuler hurts. He was a key piece at the DE position.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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There is a pretty cool website out there, https://gradtransfertracker.com, that keeps a running list of both potential and committed grad transfers. If you go there, the pickings for potential transfers at the moment are pretty slim. Most of the available grad transfers don't look like good fits for us for fall. There are a couple of exceptions, but the list is pretty sparse. Again, we might already be who we are in the fall for the most part.

But, there might be a new wave of them after spring practices. We will see.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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I have done some reading up on the different color of "shirts" for football recruits.

We know what a redshirt is, a player on scholarship who can practice but not play for a year. Players have 5 years to play 4, and that non-playing year is called a redshirt. That one is pretty well known.

A greenshirt is an early enrollee who is on scholarship but enters school in the spring semester to get a jump start on his college career.

A grayshirt is a player who is recruited (officially visited the school or given a letter of intent) that may enroll as a part time student in the fall and then goes full time and on scholarship in the following spring. The scholarship counts for the following year.

A blueshirt is a player who is not officially recruited (no official visit and no letter of intent) who can enroll as a walk on and then go on scholarship the first day of fall camp. The scholarship counts for the following year.

Translated into our situation, any blueshirt player can enroll as a walk on and play right away, though his scholarship will count toward the 2019 class. Any player wanting to blueshirt cannot have been officially recruited. The only players I can see this happening to right now are Angus Davies and Jayce Rogers. I don't think Rogers ever officially visited. Davies won't show up until summer if he does at all.

I think Tavis Lee and Taymon Cooke have both officially visited. That means they will either go on scholarship for 2018 like the others in the class or grayshirt, which means they won't enroll full time until January 2019. If I am wrong about them officially visiting, they can be blueshirt candidates.

So WVU can delay the scholarships for all of them until 2019 if they find three suitable JUCO or transfer candidates. If, per chance, they only find two transfers/JUCOs, they can sign one of them. If they only find one, they can sign both. It really depends on what they find on the transfer market.

As far as I can tell, grad transfers count toward the 25 limit too. Right now, WVU has 78 scholarship players either signed or enrolled for 2018. It seems to me the best way to get to the 85 limit would be to sign 3 more transfers and/or JUCOs, and gray/blue shirt Rogers, Lee, Cooke, and Davies. I hope that clears some things up.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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All in all, it was a quiet signing day, with only two letters of intent coming in, and both were expected. Going into the day, we knew we were going to probably lose out on Gooden and Character and that is exactly what happened.

There was some drama involving 4-star CB Jairus Brents, as rumored circulated for several hours that he was WVU's for the taking if they wanted him. In the end, his top choice, Louisville, came through with a full offer and he signed with them. We were his insurance policy at best.

Taymon Cooke, Tavis Lee, and Jayce Rogers all had "signing ceremonies" at their respective high schools showing them "signing" with WVU. They signed something, but it was not a letter of intent. Not yet.

Three spots remain and right now those three are the front runners, but this recruiting season will stretch through the spring and into the early summer, most likely. REgular transfers and JUCOs count as part of the class, so the staff will have to use them wisely. Grad transfers may not count, but I am not sure.

In any event, WVU still needs help at CB and would like help on the D-line and maybe at linebacker. They will see what shakes out with JUCOs and transfers. On the D-line, if they can't find someone who can give immediate help, they will likely sign Lee for #23 in the class. Lee is considered a long-term project anyway, due to his present lack of size. I would guess they will look hard for a JUCO or grad transfer at CB. Over the past two years, Maurice Fleming was a good grad transfer but Corey Winfield not so much. LB may be a spot to look for a grad transfer too, but they are already addressing LB hard in the 2019 class.

I would guess WVU only takes guys who are immediately eligible, unless someone pops onto the market that is just too good to pass up (a Grier, Allison, Haskins, etc.). This will be a lengthy process to fill up the class as best they can. At the end of the day, there will still probably be a couple of scholarships left over to hand out to deserving walk-on seniors.

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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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The Brown brothers have signed with WVU. They make numbers 21 and 22 for the 2018 class. I recently learned that both Skyler Simcox and Joe Brown count toward the 25 signing limit for the class, so now WVU has three spots left for high schoolers and transfers. I'm not sure if grad transfers count toward the 25 or not. Let's hope not.

Three spots left for the following:
Emmit Gooden (doubtful on him, looks like UT material)
Jayce Rogers
Taymon Cooke
Tavis Lee
Angus Davies
Any one of a number of other options from HS, transfer, or JUCO

We might be done for the day.

Posted on: 2/7 11:15 am
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Re: WVU Football 2018 Recruiting Thread
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Marlon Character has, as expected, signed with Louisville.

Posted on: 2/7 9:52 am
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