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Re: Game 12 Life without Will
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I think we keep it surprisingly competitive for the first half, maybe go in down 17-13 or something like that. They’ll slowly pull away, and it’ll be like 41-20. We will get some kudos for not laying down

Posted on: 11/19 9:23 pm
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Re: Be careful what you wish for
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I was thinking Friday, before Grier injury, how excited I was at the chance to end OU national title dreams on a national stage. It obviously won’t happen now but I was thinking that this is what we signed up for in the B12 and these moments will be many and cherished. We ended Baylor’s natty chances in 2014. We may have this year for OU if not for the fingers. That’s fun. And that never would’ve happened in the AAC. We could’ve gone 13-0 every year but it would lose meaning after a while and we would never make the playoff anyway. When we do eventually break through and win the B12 or make the playoffs (and we will some day) it will taste very sweet

Posted on: 11/19 9:22 pm
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Re: 5th Place
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Texas, now prob finishes ahead of us. They play TTU next and should win. That means they finish 5-4, and we will prob lose to OU and finish 5-4. Now if ISU wins today and next week vs. KSU, then we could go as low 6th place, and as high as 4th place if both Texas and ISU lose. I see us having decent chances of getting 5th place.

I see 6th place, now if OU wins out, beating TCU in Championship, then hopefully, Big 12 gets three, in the main bowls. 4th would be Alamo, and prob. Texas, then hopefully WVU gets next with Camping World Bowl same as last year(Russel Athletic) Would be fun to get Virginia Tech again.


I’d love another crack at the Hokies, but only with grier. I’d rather us not face NCSU as we play them next year and we will likely return most of our relent, no need to put something on film against them, a team that we will be talented than having to face them on the road in 2018

Posted on: 11/18 6:15 pm
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Re: Official unofficial Texas game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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Was at the game today...what a crappy day

I’ll give my grades
Offense: F...no benefit of doubt given for Chugs, the decision to call that play at the goal line was disasterous in many fronts. We have had 14 quarters without scoring this year with a much better QB than Hyler, compared to 5 last year. The RB have regressed and the WR group is hit or miss. If Sills declares it will be a mistake on his part. Spav likely won’t be on the staff next year
Defense: C...scored a TD, got off the field somewhat but missed a lot of tackles. Overall this unit has been satisfactory and would’ve been more than adequate if the offense lived up to its hype. Need better QB pressure and better situational play. They were ok but not good enough to carry the team like they needed to today
Special teams: C-...total mistmach in the punting game, questionable decision for the insides kick. The returners have improved slightly, which is damnation by praise. Overall not a negative today but didn’t make any big plays to help

I’ll start this rumor and campaign right now...as I said above this supposedly elite offense has had 14 quarters without scoring and multiple half’s shut out. Spav is not doing a good job and relieved of his duties. I’d advocate for Dana taking over playcalling duties next year. I’m curious if Kingsbury gets canned at TT if he would come here for one year as OC if everyone returns on offense. If he did a good job a lot of positives could happen for his career.

Tough one today...really had no chance once Will got hurt and tough to see any path to victory against OU, let alone not getting humiliated. I don’t think we should bash Dana for what happened today, the team rides on Will. The buck stops with Dana and his biggest sin was allowing the reigns of the offense to be turned over to what appears to have been a bad hire. I still think there is a lot to be positive about for 2018 if the key guys return, but that is tough to accept right now. I think a change is necessary one way or another at the OC spot

Posted on: 11/18 5:29 pm
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Re: TOP 25 Week 11
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Short term, for 17 and 18 is shocking OU in Norman would be amazing...combine that and a bowl win and with nearly everyone returning of significance not named White we would likely be top 10 with a shot to make a playoff run with next years schedule and the players the conference loses. Long term, could be very bad...if OU loses out on a spot with 2 losses and wins over TCU twice (ranked) OSU (top 15), and a road win in CBUS to Alabama who has beaten nobody or Clemson in the same boat, it will cement their belief that they must leave the League to consistently make the playoff. If they leave, Texas would likely leave as well when the GOR ends, putting us in a place of uncertainty.

The best scenario would be if somehow and unbeaten Wisconsin is left out or somehow the SEC gets left out. That would create immediate blowback from the B10/SEC which could lend itself to an 8 team playoff as soon as 2019 to ensure every conference champ gets in. That would be very good for WVU in a number of ways...first it allows us an easier and much more accessible avenue to the playoff. Second, it nearly guarantees OU/Texas an excellent shot at the playoff every year, giving them far more incentive to stay than to leave. It could even open the door for a P5 school who feels disadvantaged in the present conference behind a behemoth (LSU, to a much lesser degree Nebraska and USC/UCLA) to potentially see reason to jump to a smaller pond if the money is almost as good (SEC vs B12) or better from the PAC

Posted on: 11/15 7:17 am
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Re: Game 11 Texas
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They’re unranked, therefore the get spanked. Seriously, when is the last time we lost to an unranked opponent?

31-20

Posted on: 11/13 3:29 pm
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Re: Official unofficial Kansas State game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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Not sure about the standings...I’ll worry about it after we beat Texas.

My grades for KSU:
Offense: C...dropped multiple balls that would’ve led to scores if caught, Grier was overly quick to get rid of the ball in the 2nd half with pressure. Didn’t really establish any run and was shut out in 2nd half again. The good was the WR made as many amazing catches as they had drips and Grier was hot when he had time. The line was ok. Too many turnovers and drops to be better than a C
Special Teams: C...punter was terrible, coverage was subpar. Actually some decent kick returns/Punt returns and the fact that at least we didn’t allow a TD gives them a passing grade
Defense: A-...strong on the run, got sacks, covered the WR well and huge turnovers at critical times...we lost he turnover battle on paper but our D had the more important TO’s, like OSU against us. My only issue was safeties multiple times were flat footed when the RB broke they the line, unable to react and stop a gain at 7 yards allowing it to turn into 25. The safety play prevented an A+...this D is coming together, as many said it would all year

Posted on: 11/11 11:21 pm
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Re: Official unofficial Kansas State game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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Another much needed win. When was the last time Dana lost to an unranked opponent? I can easily look it up but don’t care to. Bottom line is we have a program that almost always beats opponents when it should, but needs to continue to beat highly regarded teams (ISU and TT don’t count IMO). Dana has clearly established WVU as the 4th best program in the B12, which is nothing to sneeze at. Got to do better vs TCU/OSU/OU...and yes if you’re telling me WVU can only win one more game this season you bet your ass I’ll take that W in Norman

Posted on: 11/11 7:30 pm
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Re: Official unofficial Kansas State game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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Though we were tested last week and came through. Come on guys

Posted on: 11/11 6:47 pm
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Re: Official unofficial Kansas State game day and 'Jack Says' thread
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I have a bad feeling. Just letting them hang around...penetrating their 36 twice and punting into the end zone, special teams mistakes, multiple drops...hang on to your hats

Posted on: 11/11 6:46 pm
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Re: White and Slaton feel unwelcome at WVU
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WVUswim wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnatio ... on/pitt-west-virginia/amp

That’s the link to the article. Will bring up nightmares for us. Schmidt’s comments, read into them what you will. They are towards the end.



Thank you sir, interesting read, and sounds like he had a similar view. I also seem to recall from that season that Slaton would also miss quite a few quarters due to reoccurring issues with his legs and cramping.


Btw here is the link to PW comments from 2013. No wonder he doesn’t feel welcome, frankly, Dana has every right to not welcome him. Didn’t realize he did his multiple times. After Dana asked him to address the team.

http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/23 ... ull-the-plug-on-holgorsen

Posted on: 11/10 11:23 pm
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Re: White and Slaton feel unwelcome at WVU
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WVUswim wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnatio ... on/pitt-west-virginia/amp

That’s the link to the article. Will bring up nightmares for us. Schmidt’s comments, read into them what you will. They are towards the end.



Thank you sir, interesting read, and sounds like he had a similar view. I also seem to recall from that season that Slaton would also miss quite a few quarters due to reoccurring issues with his legs and cramping.


The other great unsolved mystery...

Posted on: 11/10 11:19 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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Trying not to overreact but wow this reminds me of 2011-2013

Posted on: 11/10 8:12 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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Our offense is essentially fast break (but getting no turnovers) or chuck up a 3. Garbage. And Konate should not play the 2nd half. Throw out the elbow, he thinks he can handle the ball, which directly led to them dominating the last 10 minutes

Posted on: 11/10 7:21 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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Looks like the Purdue blowout in scrimmage was very legitimate.

Posted on: 11/10 7:17 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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Not the officials. Konate absolutely lowered his elbow. He’s been the worst player on the floor and is mainly to blame for this debacle

Posted on: 11/10 7:16 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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This is a complete clusterfuck

Posted on: 11/10 7:09 pm
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Re: Unofficial Official WVU VS Texas A&M Game Thread
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Let’s go!!!!

Posted on: 11/10 6:05 pm
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Re: White and Slaton feel unwelcome at WVU
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IMO Pat is responsible for us having the disasterous Stewart era by both his comments at the Fiesta Bowl and his lack of playing in 13-9. Ask Owen Schmitt what he thinks about PW that night...a lot of former players feel the same. Also remember a drunken tirade from Mozes on Mountaineer Hotline after a bad game a few years ago



Interesting. If memory serves me correctly, didn't Pat White pull himself from that game due to a "Sore-thumb on his non-throwing hand?" Then he came back in at the end and was completely unproductive? I always thought that was kind of lame...

Anyway, my question: Can you kind of give us an idea of what Owen Schmitt thinks of PW on that night? Or at least a weblink to read? I'd be genuinely interested in hearing his thoughts.

Second: What are you talking about on the drunken tirade from Mozes on Mountaineer Hotline? I'd like to hear more about this as well.

You've got me curious WVUswim.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnatio ... on/pitt-west-virginia/amp

That’s the link to the article. Will bring up nightmares for us. Schmidt’s comments, read into them what you will. They are towards the end.

Can’t remember if it was 13 or 14 but it was a night game and believe it was a loss. We were staying at my buddies in Morgantown and were stuck in traffic near the colesium and listening to the postgame with maybe Hoppy or Jed...anyways Dan from Waynesburg calls in, announces himself as Rimington Award winner Dan Mozes very drunkenly and while he doesn’t go as far as PW in 2013, he openly questions Dana and the staff and very drunkenly said he wasn’t the guy. Whoever the hosts were were trying to sort of protect him and help him from embarrassing himself but he kept referring to himself as former rimington award winner dan Mozes. It was clearly him. Very uncool IMO. Didn’t like it one bit. They are certainly qualified to discuss the program and know more than us but it’s better to keep your mouth shut, especially while highly intoxicated

Posted on: 11/10 4:24 pm
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Re: White and Slaton feel unwelcome at WVU
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Pat White openly bashed Dana on Twitter when we got killed at Baylor in 2013. His exact words were “this guy is never gunna get it done, they need to Lane Kiffin his ass”. I️ remember this explicitly because he and I️ got into a lengthy twitter spat over it. IMO Pat is responsible for us having the disasterous Stewart era by both his comments at the Fiesta Bowl and his lack of playing in 13-9. Ask Owen Schmitt what he thinks about PW that night...a lot of former players feel the same. Also remember a drunken tirade from Mozes on Mountaineer Hotline after a bad game a few years ago

I️ Love PW and Super Steve but PW said some nasty things. I’d love for them to be on the sidelines at games but understand why Dana may not

Posted on: 11/10 1:49 pm
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