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Re: Trayvon Martin
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cayce wrote:
WVBETA, they want to take your guns away !!! It's obvious !! Iran is coming to get us ( though they're surrounded by US bases )....Obama wants to take away guns ( no proof whatsoever )...and this Florida wanna be rent a cop is wrongly accused ( he didn't do anything wrong except kill the skittle guy ).... FOX is a brilliant attack dog for the GOP, and people buying it makes the entire world laugh.


Thank you for the classic lib-media-matters-dailykos talking points. Notice that my post had nothing party-specific just stating facts and nothing I linked came from a conservative web site. My main point was that this has already been "settled as law" by media and sometimes political hysteria, which is sad regardless of race of anyone. How sad it is when people like Al Sharpton or Farrakhan use this to INCITE racial unrest as opposed to trying to QUELL it....AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE OPPOSE OR DIFFER IN THOUGHT WITH A LIB/SOCIALIST/PROGRESSIVE, YOU GET SPEW AND VITRIOL AND NO SALIENT POINTS IN RETURN...

By the way since you mentioned it, I am not worried in the least by Iran- we will bomb them back to the Jurassic period when the time comes, if there is anyting left after the Israelis are done with them...so not worried at all.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 3:19 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Nice video, Billhilly...too bad it has NOTHING to do with the debate at hand at all. This debate has to do with audiotape, which is horrible for advocates of gun violence like yourself. I'm sure you and your ilk agree with the Glenn Beck theory of " More guns equals less violence ". Unfortunately for that insane viewpoint, evidence is clear to the contrary...again, it's sad to see you awesome Mountaineers attempt to defend this cruel act of violence.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 3:21 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Cayce that's just your problem, you can't help it.. Let me tell you something buddie boy, I support ron Paul, and btw fox don't like Ron Paul so guess what buddie, I don't watch fox all that much. A boy is dead and all you care about doing is making a political party look bad. You like to call people crazy, but honestly is the hole idea that me and A man want to see kids die not crazy in it's self.


Btw, I am at work and have yet to have time to find a link about who yard it was in, thusly if some one has hurd somthign else I would happen to agree, as you can guess it is quite the water cooler chat here.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 3:25 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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cayce wrote:
WVBETA, they want to take your guns away !!! It's obvious !! Iran is coming to get us ( though they're surrounded by US bases )....Obama wants to take away guns ( no proof whatsoever )...and this Florida wanna be rent a cop is wrongly accused ( he didn't do anything wrong except kill the skittle guy ).... FOX is a brilliant attack dog for the GOP, and people buying it makes the entire world laugh.


Thank you for the classic lib-media-matters-dailykos talking points. Notice that my post had nothing party-specific just stating facts and nothing I linked came from a conservative web site. My main point was that this has already been "settled as law" by media and sometimes political hysteria, which is sad regardless of race of anyone. How sad it is when people like Al Sharpton or Farrakhan use this to INCITE racial unrest as opposed to trying to QUELL it....AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE OPPOSE OR DIFFER IN THOUGHT WITH A LIB/SOCIALIST/PROGRESSIVE, YOU GET SPEW AND VITRIOL AND NO SALIENT POINTS IN RETURN...

By the way since you mentioned it, I am not worried in the least by Iran- we will bomb them back to the Jurassic period when the time comes, if there is anyting left after the Israelis are done with them...so not worried at all.


Be careful saying always and never Beta. There have been plenty of times where I have responded to right wing statements on here (including some by you) with factual proof showing they are wrong, and they simply did not respond at all.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 3:29 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Media cannot " settle as law " anything. This dude admitted to killing that unarmed skittle black kid. His lawyer made the story as palapable to the general public as if to cast doubt and aspersion on the murdered. Of course he would do that, he will have to defend said murderer in a highly public trial. That audiotape will damn him.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Amazingly, Billhilly, we agree on something. I also support Ron Paul and recently voted for him in the Republican primary in Virginia. He's the only anti-war candidate, and unless the USA likes people coming home with their body parts blown off for no reason, the USA should vote for Ron Paul too, but they won't because the USA is so militarized that life without an enemy is simply unfathomable. Such is the influence of media. It's called " Manufacturing Consent ", and it's why redneck hawks are saber rattling over Iran when they are blatantly no threat at all. They ( Iran ) did invent chess,however.I'll be playing 7 games of that tonight....like a hippie liberal commie.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Posted on: 3/28/2012 5:36 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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There is sure is alot of mouth running about a case in which nobody has even been arrested yet. I figure if it was as cut and dried as some would have us believe and if there were no reasonable doubt that a criminal act occurred, then that wouldn't be the case and an arrest would have been made. Your kneejerk reactions and outrageous rhetoric haven't been accepted as proof in our legal system.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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We can figure it out from our living rooms.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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There is sure is alot of mouth running about a case in which nobody has even been arrested yet. I figure if it was as cut and dried as some would have us believe and if there were no reasonable doubt that a criminal act occurred, then that wouldn't be the case and an arrest would have been made. Your kneejerk reactions and outrageous rhetoric haven't been accepted as proof in our legal system.



Actually, the police turned the scene over to CSI, the head homicide detective had probable cause and said that Zimmerman needs to be arrested and charged with Manslaughter. After witness accounts and the crime scene investigation, he said that he "didn't beleive Zimmerman was telling the WHOLE truth" based on evidence. The DA said that there wasn't enough evidence because he was claiming self-defense and the police couldn't hold him. He was already at the station. That same DA has stepped down from the case. And so begins ALL of the investigation by several agencies into what "really" happened.

Also, I want to give y'all a little info on Zimmerman. He is the son of retired Supreme Court Magestrate Judge, Robert J. Zimmerman. His mother, Gladys Zimmerman, a court clerk.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 6:22 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Check out the INITIAL police report of the killing...no mention of injuries at all to Zimmerswine....bye bye argument...time to drop this one Defenders of Gun Violence !!!!!!

Posted on: 3/28/2012 6:28 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Are you welling to make a statement condemning the black panthers for putting out a 10k bounty on Zimmerman?

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Cayce, I have seen the report online and an officer (Ricardo Ayla) noted that Zimmerman was bleeding.

And the Black Panther thing is condemnable. I did not even know they were still around. It is a ploy to get their name in the media. I highly doubt the organization has $10,000. Where do they get the money? Bake sales? A booth at a local carnival? But it is worth a swift kick in the ass for their organization (and this is coming from one of those left leaning people).

Posted on: 3/28/2012 6:41 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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City: Newspaper's report on Zimmerman’s account consistent with inquiry


More than a month after the shooting, the Orlando Sentinel, citing “authorities” as its source of information, reported that Zimmerman told police that he had lost sight of Martin after trying to follow him and that he was returning to his vehicle when Martin confronted him.

The Sentinel also reported that Zimmerman claimed to police that Martin attacked him before he shot Martin.

On Monday, the city of Sanford released a statement in which it condemned what it called "unauthorized leaks," but confirmed that the newspaper account "is consistent with the information provided to the State Attorney's office by the Police Department."

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/28/ ... artin-shooting/?hpt=hp_c2

Not so fast my small minded liberal friend.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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cayce wrote: Check out the INITIAL police report of the killing...no mention of injuries at all to Zimmerswine....bye bye argument...time to drop this one Defenders of Gun Violence !!!!!!


That's idiotic liberal tripe. Nobody is condoning or promoting gun violence, or any other kind of violence. You're the one trying to use this incident as political fodder and are the one perpetrating racism through your accusations to other law abiding citizens who may not share your political viewpoint on the Second Amendment. Grow up.

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Re: Trayvon Martin
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That's idiotic liberal tripe. Nobody is condoning or promoting gun violence, or any other kind of violence. You're the one trying to use this incident as political fodder and are the one perpetrating racism through your accusations to other law abiding citizens who may not share your political viewpoint on the Second Amendment. Grow up.


Yep...Rush 101...anyone that disagrees with you is "liberal" and you should point that out as your first arguing point.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 8:38 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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cayce wrote:
Check out the INITIAL police report of the killing...no mention of injuries at all to Zimmerswine....bye bye argument...time to drop this one Defenders of Gun Violence !!!!!!



link?

Posted on: 3/28/2012 8:40 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Gettin' Schmitty
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wvman75 wrote:
That's idiotic liberal tripe. Nobody is condoning or promoting gun violence, or any other kind of violence. You're the one trying to use this incident as political fodder and are the one perpetrating racism through your accusations to other law abiding citizens who may not share your political viewpoint on the Second Amendment. Grow up.


Yep...Rush 101...anyone that disagrees with you is "liberal" and you should point that out as your first arguing point.


That's JUST the sort of thing a LIBERAL would say......

Posted on: 3/28/2012 8:45 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Feel free to read the article and fill all of us in on why this case didn't get the same national attention as Martin is getting. I would really like to hear Cayce's thoughts.


http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/jl.htm

http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/liberal_racism.htm


By the way, young white couple victims in this case were on a date when their nightmare began. All subjects were non-white.

Posted on: 3/28/2012 9:30 pm
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Re: Trayvon Martin
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Sadly those cases happen way too often in America, dshock. But that is an entire different type of animal than this case. You can dig up many cases and say "Look at the race." That was a case of a pack of violent criminals. And yes, they happened to be black. I am sure I can find crimes committed by any race. Yes, I said race. You brought it up.

The Zimmerman/Martin case brings up a lot of issues. Race should be the smallest (along with hoodies). The biggest thing to me is this stand your ground law. How far will it reach? Will Florida realize that maybe they need to work on laws a little more before passing them?


Posted on: 3/28/2012 9:49 pm
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