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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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First off...I'm talking about the workers. At some point the working class needs to get a bigger piece of pie when the pie gets bigger instead of the top 1% getting all of the new pie and two scoops of ice cream.

Secondly...Seeing that Trump has passed no significant legislation to sway employment...President Obama appreciates your support of his economic policies! Let's see how Trump holds up on this category:

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Going to have to disagree there. There were a whole lot of Executive Orders that were signed which would have limited the cost of regulation on our growth and in some instances spent more money on some things like border security.

Like the border wall or don't like the border wall but if you infuse billions of dollars in building a wall it will promote growth while it is happening. I think one of the executive orders called for the hiring of 5,000 border control agents. That makes a difference.


We agree on 99% of everything. Please show specific stats.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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Technically there is no actual free market capitalism these days. There are free-ish markets manipulated by big government. The big winners and losers in our economy are usually picked and subsidized/or not with government exemptions and subsidies. They are protesting big government ran and controlled by the money of big business.

Most of those protesters are calling what they are protesting by a wrong name and set of ideals. They are protesting fascism and crony capitalism. They are desiring a truly free market that is more liken to the capitalism that our nation's original wealth was made off of, not the rigged system that is falsely called capitalism.


It doesn't matter what they call it. What they want is income re-distribution, something for nothing.


So you really believe that the people earning the top 1% are not the benefactors of income redistribution? If you think they earn their money read this:

http://fortune.com/2016/07/25/ceo-pay-total-shareholder-return/

So these guys making the most run the shittiest performing companies. Let's look how this effects REAL capitalism.

First off, they are dipping and stealing money from YOU and ME. Really! Don't believe it? I would say that most working people today in this country has some sort of retirement whether a defined pension or a 401k or an IRA. So those investments are made up of stocks and bonds. So these corporate leaches are stealing the companies money that YOU and ME are entitled to. Yes, I said ENTITLED. Why? Because we own the company!!!!! But the system is rigged against us because we can't get our acts together and mostly because we CAN'T vote the shares that we pay for. Think about that. We OWN the company but we CAN'T vote for board members or any of the trappings of corporate governance because the shares are not held in our name.

By the way....Standard and Poors have consistently stated that this problem with wealth distribution (Or more honestly the lack thereof) is causing a reduction in our growth rate. This further effects us.

We should be taxing the wealthy and investing in this country but the party of "nope" and the dumbasses on the other side haven't the foresight to invest in our future and haven't done so for almost 30 years.

It isn't the lack of capitalism that is taking us down. It is the lack of education and the lack of leadership. That dynamic duo will be the down fall of ANY country.


How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.


Really? So crony capitalism/politics was a major problem "in the Obama administration"? Never a problem before that eh? Funny you don't mention the no bid contracts that resulted in BILLIONS going to conservative companies/donors during our wars of choice? Pointing out that it was a problem in the Obama administration without referencing other political thank-you's weakens your argument.

Here is another argument killer: "both sides are in the pocket of the rich". I won't deny that there are many democrat politicians in the corporate teet. Howeve, there is only one side that openly works to continually pass laws to benefit the rich without regard for the poor. Pretend otherwise if you like.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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More stupidity from the left..

The preposterous:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat ... cist-latest-comic-1038448

Makes we wonder if Superman ever had the balls to save innocents from a Radical Islamic Terrorist Asshole. I bet you'll never see THAT in a Marvel comic!



And of course the old double standard by MS ESPN:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ea ... t/?utm_term=.410d2ab85976

Schilling fired for posting a meme about transgender bathroom issues

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ ... when-hosts-speak-out.html

Jamale Hill tweets Trump, his cabinet and his supporters are white supermachist, and nothing happens.

Interesting business strategy by MSESPN. Piss off half your potential audience with some wacko liberal hosting sports center.

I've been done with MSESPN for a long time anyway. No clicks from me. No watching their networks unless its the only way to watch WVU content. They constantly want to interject their political perspective into sports programming. The last thing I want to think about while enjoying a sporting event is politics.

Screw em. They are dead to me.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.


Really? So crony capitalism/politics was a major problem "in the Obama administration"? Never a problem before that eh? Funny you don't mention the no bid contracts that resulted in BILLIONS going to conservative companies/donors during our wars of choice? Pointing out that it was a problem in the Obama administration without referencing other political thank-you's weakens your argument.

Here is another argument killer: "both sides are in the pocket of the rich". I won't deny that there are many democrat politicians in the corporate teet. Howeve, there is only one side that openly works to continually pass laws to benefit the rich without regard for the poor. Pretend otherwise if you like.


Nothing that you posted here actually debunks any of the points that I was trying to make if you really think about it. I whole heartedly agree that government has picked favorites under Republican rule. The Neocons were about as bad about it as Obama was. It's amazing just how many similarities there are between the neocons and higher up liberal leaders actually.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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More stupidity from the left..

The preposterous:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat ... cist-latest-comic-1038448

Makes we wonder if Superman ever had the balls to save innocents from a Radical Islamic Terrorist Asshole. I bet you'll never see THAT in a Marvel comic!



And of course the old double standard by MS ESPN:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ea ... t/?utm_term=.410d2ab85976

Schilling fired for posting a meme about transgender bathroom issues

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ ... when-hosts-speak-out.html

Jamale Hill tweets Trump, his cabinet and his supporters are white supermachist, and nothing happens.

Interesting business strategy by MSESPN. Piss off half your potential audience with some wacko liberal hosting sports center.

I've been done with MSESPN for a long time anyway. No clicks from me. No watching their networks unless its the only way to watch WVU content. They constantly want to interject their political perspective into sports programming. The last thing I want to think about while enjoying a sporting event is politics.

Screw em. They are dead to me.


Best part about it is that she is terrible. Every show she is on has HORRIBLE ratings and a couple of her shows have been cancelled. THATS who BSPN wants to protect. Not the world series MVP. But the woman who clearly has no idea what she is talking about. The funniest part though, which actually makes me physically laugh out loud - her mother voted for TRUMP.

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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eer_4da_beer wrote:
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EERY wrote:

How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.


Really? So crony capitalism/politics was a major problem "in the Obama administration"? Never a problem before that eh? Funny you don't mention the no bid contracts that resulted in BILLIONS going to conservative companies/donors during our wars of choice? Pointing out that it was a problem in the Obama administration without referencing other political thank-you's weakens your argument.

Here is another argument killer: "both sides are in the pocket of the rich". I won't deny that there are many democrat politicians in the corporate teet. Howeve, there is only one side that openly works to continually pass laws to benefit the rich without regard for the poor. Pretend otherwise if you like.


Nothing that you posted here actually debunks any of the points that I was trying to make if you really think about it. I whole heartedly agree that government has picked favorites under Republican rule. The Neocons were about as bad about it as Obama was. It's amazing just how many similarities there are between the neocons and higher up liberal leaders actually.


Thank you for clarifying. Someone might get confused since your original argument framed the debate as though it was only a problem on one side. I'm sure it was unintentional.

Again, you really want to pretend that both sides are equal in giving corporate money what it wants? I disagree. Please talk specifics and you may convince me to agree!

Posted on: 9/14 8:23 pm
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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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wvufan1818 wrote:
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83Grad wrote:
More stupidity from the left..

The preposterous:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat ... cist-latest-comic-1038448

Makes we wonder if Superman ever had the balls to save innocents from a Radical Islamic Terrorist Asshole. I bet you'll never see THAT in a Marvel comic!



And of course the old double standard by MS ESPN:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ea ... t/?utm_term=.410d2ab85976

Schilling fired for posting a meme about transgender bathroom issues

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ ... when-hosts-speak-out.html

Jamale Hill tweets Trump, his cabinet and his supporters are white supermachist, and nothing happens.

Interesting business strategy by MSESPN. Piss off half your potential audience with some wacko liberal hosting sports center.

I've been done with MSESPN for a long time anyway. No clicks from me. No watching their networks unless its the only way to watch WVU content. They constantly want to interject their political perspective into sports programming. The last thing I want to think about while enjoying a sporting event is politics.

Screw em. They are dead to me.


Best part about it is that she is terrible. Every show she is on has HORRIBLE ratings and a couple of her shows have been cancelled. THATS who BSPN wants to protect. Not the world series MVP. But the woman who clearly has no idea what she is talking about. The funniest part though, which actually makes me physically laugh out loud - her mother voted for TRUMP.


One more post on the subject will convince me that you care as little as you say, lol!

It's ok to bitch about it, just don't pretend it doesn't bother you.

Posted on: 9/14 8:26 pm
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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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eer_4da_beer wrote:
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EERY wrote:
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eer_4da_beer wrote:
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EERY wrote:

How the heck do you think the top 1% are able to get away with all of this you are writing about? The majority of politicians on both sides are in their pocket. The majority of politicians will talk a good game, but ultimately have sold their souls to the very wealthy on this earth. Expecting them to put a substantial tax on the 1% is a pipe dream, that is unless we have a major change in government officials. It is not an even playing field, and it is not true capitalism.

Take GE for instance. They are around 13th in the Fortune 500 list. Back when Obama's EPA introduced regulations that halted the building of power plants around the country. General Electric stood to lose a huge sale in providing the majority of components in the build of a power plant in California. This one power plant build was "grandfathered in" avoiding the new regulations that inhibited all the other builds. Just so happens that the CEO of GE was on one of Obama's environmental committees. It's Crony Capitalism. That's picking winners and losers. This went on quite a bit during the Obama administration. Hitler had a similar approach to picking winners and losers of commerce in 1930s Germany.


Really? So crony capitalism/politics was a major problem "in the Obama administration"? Never a problem before that eh? Funny you don't mention the no bid contracts that resulted in BILLIONS going to conservative companies/donors during our wars of choice? Pointing out that it was a problem in the Obama administration without referencing other political thank-you's weakens your argument.

Here is another argument killer: "both sides are in the pocket of the rich". I won't deny that there are many democrat politicians in the corporate teet. Howeve, there is only one side that openly works to continually pass laws to benefit the rich without regard for the poor. Pretend otherwise if you like.


Nothing that you posted here actually debunks any of the points that I was trying to make if you really think about it. I whole heartedly agree that government has picked favorites under Republican rule. The Neocons were about as bad about it as Obama was. It's amazing just how many similarities there are between the neocons and higher up liberal leaders actually.


Thank you for clarifying. Someone might get confused since your original argument framed the debate as though it was only a problem on one side. I'm sure it was unintentional.

Again, you really want to pretend that both sides are equal in giving corporate money what it wants? I disagree. Please talk specifics and you may convince me to agree!


Originally I was talking in specifics. The General Electric thing was just one of the more recent ones that I remembered reading about. To be fair I guess I should have went back through history picking out certain incidents that happens under various administrations. Then again who plays fair in the Soap Box? You did well on pointing out the contracts the Bush administration gave out under a time of war.

Cheney' s gonna get his. You know dat. Fo sho

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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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Originally I was talking in specifics. The General Electric thing was just one of the more recent ones that I remembered reading about. To be fair I guess I should have went back through history picking out certain incidents that happens under various administrations. Then again who plays fair in the Soap Box? You did well on pointing out the contracts the Bush administration gave out under a time of war.

Cheney' s gonna get his. You know dat. Fo sho




As a (sensible) liberal, I get wound up as bad as the worst right wing nutjob...totally fair game to use the 'calm down Francis' memes when appropriate, lol!

...but you're wrong about Cheney. Dude has an artificial heart and is only getting stronger!!! He feeds on liberal angst!! Lol

Posted on: 9/14 11:46 pm
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Re: Progressive Socialist Fascist Leftists at WORK!
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In this video Shapiro raises some good questions about ANTIFA, and why weren't they dealt with in early 2016. I never knew that ANTIFA members were being sent overseas to train with other radical groups.

The title of the video doesn't really represent the content.

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