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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Proof 1818 doesn't think for himself...You can't really call yourself a free thinker when you literally copy and paste stuff from The_Donald.




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"There is no agenda created by the left"

Meanwhile in the real world

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPJwSzjBWw

If anyone is curious, I've actually dived into their playbook to find out the why's to the odd trends we see with hypocritical/double standard acceptance of anti-white and anti-male sentiment in the media.


1 The far left is actively infiltrating the mainstream leftist initiatives using very vague, twisted, and misleading rhetoric that is more palatable than their exposed, core, extreme beliefs.

2 The far left is and has been actively trying to close and shift left the Overton Window so that only emotionally reasoned leftist perspectives are acceptable and topics based in logic instead of emotion (like free speech, scientific approaches/explanations to gender and sex, using non-inflated and accurate measures on statistics to make sure they are as accurate as possible rather than politicized, etc.) are banished. Their version of what is acceptable near entirely leaves out all centrist and surely all right-leaning perspectives.

3 They are leading a campaign to specifically liken centrism, moderate conservatism, libertarianism, and regular conservatism to nazi and fascist philosophies as a way of spearheading a socially accepted witch-hunt against anyone who isn't in line with their beliefs.

4 They get their beliefs from something called critical theory in academic studies. This is code for Marxist studies. Their goal is to subtly instill socially Marxist ideals into American society by discouraging merit-based advancement in society and endorsing a diversity-hire/equity of outcome-based hiring and screening paradigm in order to promote Marxist thinkers and practitioners into positions of power and gate keeping (this is how we've, for example, managed to see former empires like the Star Wars franchise crash and burn because of one SJW/Marxist feminist). The far left is doing this with media companies and other executive level and HR-level positions where they can create entire board rooms of SJW/Marxist circle-jerk discussion where anti-male and anti-white sentiment can flourish unchallenged and unquestioned and even build such double standard belief systems into corporate policy and procedure (e.g., the new Netflix "no staring at people for more than 5 seconds rule" policy they recently put in place). Detractors are fired or purged by the Marxist gatekeepers or by HR departments that are largely left-leaning and respond to inflated SJW employee complaints with "zero-tolerance" responses (e.g., the James Damore situation at Google).

5 The far left is choosing to wage this cultural war via Cultural/Social Marxism because it is a more subtle strain of Marxism that goes less noticed and is harder to talk about and is more easily brushed off as a conspiracy than going full Marxist and advocating for de-facto Marxism. They also know that full blown de facto Marxism is not feasible and would lead to them being caught in their scheme quicker than what they are doing now.

6 Their end goal is to eliminate all merit-based advancement across the board and to enact their version of equity by bringing down the hard-working and the high-achieving to their level rather than asking how they can achieve the same sorts of things by also working hard.

7 Their goal is to demonize white identity, specifically cis, white, male identity and use it as a scapegoat explanation for whenever something goes wrong on their course to full enactment of their Marxist visions and ideations.

8 They've shifted the semantics of words such as racism, sexism, discrimination, and even sexual assault and rape so that only those who they pre-approve can claim to be victims of those kinds of oppressions and grievances in society. For example, many cultural/social Marxists reject the notion that white people can be victims of racism. They've done this by encouraging something called prejudice plus power as a new way of defining terms like racism, sexism, rape, etc. This agenda is pushed at the college/academic level in institutions across the world but mainly in America.

9 "Intersectional feminism" launched a coup on the normal, regular movement for women's equality by fully integrating the notions of prejudice plus power into second wave and third wave feminist theory. This caused the movement to go from "giving women equality in all respects as men" to "let's talk about how and why I am a victim and why men are to blame for that". Modern intersectional feminism is a major example of what happened when prejudice plus power touched a formerly focused movement that wanted to ensure the equality of women and transform it into an "modular API" of sorts where anyone who feels like they are a victim can hop on the back of feminism and use it as a replacement for egalitarianism. They've since demonized the notion of egalitarianism as a word and practice of what they call the "alt-right". They do this deliberately to dissuade any discussion that might deviate from the intersectional feminist religion. They will play no true Scotsman all day and claim that anyone who doesn't specifically think like them, but still identifies as a proponent of women's rights, isn't a feminist. It's messed up and is a toxic example of the above points.

10 Some of the more extreme factions of feminists believe in some truly destructive notions such as stopping having sex with white men because of skin color, political lesbianism, and post-coital retraction of affirmative consent if there is regret involved with the interaction.

11 Cultural Marxists, despite any of their claims, usually force their subscribers/practitioners to identify as specifically intersectional feminists or face the equivalency of getting "shunned" by members of a hardcore cult. Proof of such can be seen in how intersectional feminists talk about TERFs (trans exclusionary radical feminists) and other factions of feminism.

12 Cultural Marxists, despite any of their claims, actually oppose the constitution of the United States. Proof of this can be seen at institutions like Oberlin and Vassar, where they openly have shredded the constitution and endorse rejecting the constitution as a triggering and oppressive document.

13 Cultural Marxists are aiming for a completely separate set of end/victory goals for America. Their victory goals mainly define the very unraveling of American society, American borders, a destruction of the American culture and ways of life, and a redefining of American values based off of modern contextual interpretations to cherry-picked sections of the constitution that they can twist to fit their values.

14 Cultural Marxists hate true diversity, especially of thought and when someone goes against or questions their principles. When a woman is a conservative they call her self-hating, experiencing internalized-misogyny, and other worse names. When an African American is conservative, Cultural Marxists often patronize and/or mock the person for being misled, self-hating, or influenced/brainwashed by white people.

15 Cultural Marxists will go out of their way to dox and stalk you and attempt to get you fired and/or ruin your life if you gain too much power in a movement that opposes them or ask questions that would potentially expose a major weak spot to exploit.

If you try to point any of this out to them or talk to a left-leaning person about this, you will see these sorts of patterns in how they rationalize or brush off genuine questions or discussion attempts about most/any of the above:

1 Cherry picking a quote to pick out 1 to 2 words that they think invalidates the premise of the argument or question. (Hill, zwaa, eers, deli, 4da)

2 Will try to shut down any counter by claiming one is misinterpreting something, doesn't know what they are talking about, etc.

3 Will dismiss the questioning as an attempt to "attack" or "troll" and that such "attacks" are giving into the "alt-right" or "fascist" mindset.

4 If 3 doesn't work, they've begun to use kafkatrapping terminology by dismissing questions as being those from a "red pilled" "incel" "men's rights" angle and will use that as justification to halt the discussion and offer no further explanation.

5 Will say they "don't have time" to "debate" or "explain" X or will ask one to "Go Google X".

6 Will say "it's not my responsibility to educate you about X but rather your responsibility to educate yourself about X" (equivalent to a parent telling their child after a child asks what they did wrong, "You figure it out, you're smart! I'm punishing you anyways even if you can't tell me what you did wrong!")

7 They will try to invalidate the premise of your argument because of having post history in TD or other conservative areas and/or they will go one step further and comment dump your comment history on a non related thread to attempt to miscontextualize or spin or toxify your past words in front of everyone as a way to discredit what you are presently saying (happens to me all the time).

Sources:

Netflix "no staring for more than 5 seconds at anyone" policy proof: https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/netf ... th-grade-on-steroids.html

Regretful sex being weaponized as rape: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteve ... on&utm_term=.0f6c3559b788

Actual Marxist article that attempts to poison the notion of merit: https://theconversation.com/the-proble ... -gender-bias-either-45364


Lap up that echo chamber propaganda!! Yuuuuuum-yum!


Hilarious that you did exactly what was in this list. You're pathetic.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Nice, turns out the Annapolis shooter was a redcap!

https://www.salon.com/2018/06/30/exclu ... k-links-to-the-alt-right/

Good thing Trump has been whipping up anti press fervor to feed his hate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8u2UdN-8KE


The reporter that claimed that the shooter was a "red capper" lied about it, and he has since resigned.

Http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/29/rep ... ga-hat-annapolis-shooter/

You openly lie and push a false narrative. Rescind your statement.


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Re: Dangerous Donald
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1818 If you can't explain something in your own words you don't understand it.

I get the feeling there's a lot you don't understand.

It's easy to tell when you're re-posting from your propaganda hub because even though it's still fantasy it sounds so much more articulate.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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1818 If you can't explain something in your own words you don't understand it.

I get the feeling there's a lot you don't understand.

It's easy to tell when you're re-posting from your propaganda hub because even though it's still fantasy it sounds so much more articulate.


Converse with me. Find something you disagree with, and if you can (you cant) prove me wrong, or dont agree, have a conversation as to why you feel that way. Dont just act as a child. Grow up and have a conversation.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yiXSy0eBZmM

Trump listens to Clinton and Obama speak out about illegal immigration

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yiXSy0eBZmM

Trump listens to Clinton and Obama speak out about illegal immigration


Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, hahahahahahahahahahahahah

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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wvufan1818 wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yiXSy0eBZmM

Trump listens to Clinton and Obama speak out about illegal immigration


Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, Whataboutism, hahahahahahahahahahahahah


It's ok for Trump to do it because Clinton and Obama did it...don't you get it?

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Trump refuses to lower the American flag to half mast for the victims in the Maryland shooting.....

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/03/6255367 ... annapolis-newspaper-staff

Until....


Trump lowers the lags to half mast because more people will like him. Leadership...it's all about following the wind.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/annapolis ... ital-gazette-journalists/


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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I'm wondering how this will impact repairs and parts on German autos. That BMW just got a lot more expensive to maintain i'll bet!

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/04/news/ ... many-trade-war/index.html

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned the Trump administration that hitting auto imports with new tariffs would have dire consequences.
''We now have tariffs on aluminum and steel and we have a discussion that is far more serious," Merkel told German lawmakers on Wednesday. "This is taking on the contours of a trade conflict — I don't want to use words that go any further. It's worth every effort to try and defuse this so that this conflict does not become a war.''

President Donald Trump has threatened to place a 20% tariff on all European cars coming to the United States if the European Union doesn't remove its own trade barriers.

Targeting cars would dramatically raise the stakes in the spat between Europe and its biggest trading partner. EU-US trade in goods and services is worth more than €1 trillion euros ($1.2 trillion) each year.

The European Union said earlier this week that America's trading partners could retaliate against nearly $300 billion of US exports if the Trump administration decides to penalize automobile imports from around the world.

Uncertainty caused by spiraling trade conflicts threatens to derail the recovering global economy, the World Trade Organization said in a new report on Wednesday. It reported a sharp rise in restrictions on trade introduced by G20 economies during the seven months to May 2018.

"This continued escalation poses a serious threat to growth and recovery in all countries," WTO leader Roberto Azevêdo said in a statement. "I urge G20 leaders to show restraint in applying new measures and to urgently deescalate the situation."

Related: EU warns Trump's car tariffs threaten $300 billion of US exports

In May, the US government launched an investigation into imports of automobiles, including SUVs, light trucks and auto parts.

The type of investigation, known as Section 232, is meant to determine whether the imports are hurting US national security. It's the same approach the Trump administration used before it slapped tariffs on steel and aluminum imports earlier this year.

The European Union has said the US investigation "lacks legitimacy, factual basis and violates international trade rules." And it has argued that new tariffs on autos would damage the American economy.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Getting back to the point of this thread. Many of us point out that Trump is a fraud and a failure and many others disagree.

I submit this....

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump ... idency-will-no-different/

Before he was the nominee of the Republican Party, Donald Trump took the stage in March of 2016 flanked by pallets of bottled water, rows of wine bottles and, most peculiarly, a pile of raw steaks. This bizarre stunt came in response to a critical speech made days earlier by Mitt Romney in which the 2012 Republican nominee listed Trump’s failed ventures and declared, “A business genius he is not.”

Trump’s remarks seemed less concerned with Romney’s criticism of his demeanor and unfitness for office and more about defending his entrepreneurial acumen. Instead of touting his victories that night in Michigan and Mississippi, Trump went item by item, saying his bottled water company was “very successful” and his wine was “the finest wine.” As for the steaks, Trump claimed they cost “50 bucks,” but a reporter who looked closely at the wrapping noted that they weren’t actually Trump’s brand, but rather Bush Brothers.

Counterfeit steak aside, the stunt was another example of Trump’s usual concoction of truth, lies and exaggerations. The water had actually been bottled by a company that licensed its product to other companies. The wine was actually produced by a winery registered to Trump’s son that offered a disclaimer that it was not “owned, managed, or affiliated with Donald J. Trump,” and Trump’s steak currently isn’t available for purchase. He also mentioned his magazine, which folded, and Trump Airlines, which defaulted before it was sold.

Romney’s attack obviously hit home because it was true. In his decades in business, Donald Trump has failed at nearly everything he’s tried. Though his real estate ventures have been profitable, on and off, his investments have mostly flopped, including his turn as a casino magnate that led to “crushing debt,” his airline business which lasted less than three years and his cavalcade of failed ventures that led to four separate bankruptcies. In fact, analysis has shown that if Trump had simply invested his money in the stock market instead of all his harebrained businesses, he’d now be worth $10 billion more than he is at this moment.

But for all of his catastrophes, Trump has continued to fail upward. Even though he’s displayed a distinct lack of business expertise, he’s been allowed to present himself as the pinnacle of the American dream in popular culture for decades. His opulent lifestyle and savvy in manipulating the media has resulted in several rebirths for himself, including his sting as host of NBC’s “The Apprentice,” in which the failed businessman was dressed up for TV as a high-rolling executive who hired and fired at will. That role paved the way for voters to take his candidacy seriously and eventually vote him into the Oval Office — a flukish result, it bears mentioning, that involved losing the popular vote by a historic margin.

Trump’s rollercoaster life has been paved with one failure and disappointment after another, but he has displayed an otherworldly ability to land on his feet and walk away from calamity with little to no damage. Now that he’s the holder of the most powerful job in the world, however, it’s unclear whether that streak will continue.

* * *

Last Thursday morning, the bombshell dropped: U.S. intelligence agencies now suspect that North Korea has gone back on its word and has expedited nuclear production. Citing the latest security briefings, officials say there is “unequivocal evidence” that North Korea is now “trying to deceive the U.S.” with its nuclear program, an immediate reversal of all the assurances made at the Singapore summit between North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and President Trump.

“We both want to do something,” Trump stated after the meeting. “We both are going to do something. And we have a very special bond.”

Following the talks, Trump seemed certain he had managed a breakthrough with Kim, who had threatened to destroy the United States with nuclear strikes on several occasions. In comments afterward, he called the despot “very honorable.” He also admitted that North Korea had made “a lot of promises” in previous years, an acknowledgment that now feels prescient as much of the air has been let out of the balloon.

It looks very much as if Trump was rolled in Singapore. By flattering the president, Kim was able to have his status and the status of his country raised to the same level as the elected leader of the United States, including several photo opportunities with the two countries’ flags side by side. Subsequently, Trump made several curious remarks to the press, including the already-infamous head-scratcher in which he claimed that Kim loved his people and they loved him back.

As with so many of his endeavors as a entrepreneur, Trump followed his gut and came up short. The gamble was a long shot, an iconoclastic shot in the dark, and the results have been similarly lackluster. Just as Trump Airlines crashed, so did this gamble as an international dealmaker. In the process, Trump displayed his ever-present penchant for flattery and his willingness to cozy up to dictators. He elevated a madman who threatens nations with nuclear Armageddon and murders his own people into a statesman capable of holding his own with the world’s foremost superpower.

Similarly, Trump’s wagers have backfired time and time again on the world stage. His provocations and immature behavior toward our allies have dramatically diminished America’s international standing in less than two years. He has singlehandedly alienated our friends, starting a ludicrous feud with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and offending staunch allies like Britain, South Korea, Germany, Australia and even Sweden.

Those relations, though strained, are still better than those with the major U.S. trade partners that Trump has provoked into starting trade wars. Both China and the European Union seem more than ready to tangle with Trump as he blusters and snorts about how America is being taken advantage of and he’s the only one who can stop it.

Back home, those conflicts are taking a toll. Tariffs have already cost U.S. workers their jobs and predictions say they could cost upwards of 50,000 more. Developing battles could cause real hardship: Harley Davidson, which Trump has touted as one of America’s success stories, has already said it plans to move portions of its production outside the country. True to form, Trump attacked the company on Twitter, threatening punitive taxes and warning Harley not to “play cute.”

Even as Trump spreads international chaos, his signature achievement has continued to unravel with every new day. The tax cuts he passed with the Republican Congress in late 2017 were meant to be a public relations boon but have fallen short of their target: Most Americans say they haven’t seen a pay increase, and only 27 percent consider the cuts a good idea. Originally, many observers considered the tax bill as a likely boon for Republicans in the 2018 Midterms, but support for the law has plummeted.

Similarly, Trump’s managing of the border has yielded miserable results. The recent humanitarian crisis, in which thousands of immigrant children were being separated from their families, has been a PR nightmare for the administration. Trump, who ordered a “zero-tolerance” approach at the border, spent days claiming it was Congress’ responsibility to end the family separations, pointing his finger specifically at Democrats. Eventually he capitulated, ending the policy by signing an (unnecessary) executive order. Polls show that two-thirds of Americans opposed the policy, which looks like another giant misstep in this administration’s immigration policy.

By all accounts and measures, this presidency has been an abject failure. Even when Trump’s administration wins, it can’t help but lose as its policies and actions are deeply unpopular with the American public. Trump’s approval rating has remained below 50 percent during his tenure and shows no signs of breaking that barrier.

So why does it still seem as if Donald Trump could well win re-election and walk away from his presidency having achieved a majority of his goals?

* * *

Last week’s announcement that Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy would retire shook the political world. The previous day, Kennedy had issued a concurring opinion in the court’s Trump v. Hawaii decision that — as I wrote here last week — felt like an acknowledgment that the president had discovered a strategy to enact a biased law while openly admitting it was intended to be biased. That response, coupled with Kennedy’s retirement the next day, is more evidence of the uncanny good luck Trump has enjoyed throughout his career.

Just as Trump was spared from ruin by his numerous second chances and unearned opportunities, his chance to name a second Supreme Court justice in two years — when most presidents only get one or two in their entire tenure — has little to do with his own efforts and more with being in the right place at the right time. This has fueled much of Trump’s life and has repeatedly saved him from facing the consequences of his abject failures.

Trump’s nomination of Gorsuch was only made possible in the first place because of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s refusal to consider Merrick Garland, Barack Obama’s nominee to replace the late Antonin Scalia. It was a daring move that only worked because of McConnell’s audacity and Democrats’ sincere faith that Hillary Clinton would easily defeat Trump in the November election. Again, circumstance handed Donald Trump a huge victory.

By the same token, Trump’s victory in 2016 had little to do with his own expertise. Over and over again, he proved unable to understand even the most basic political concepts and displayed little deference or respect for the office he was seeking. It was his ability to parrot the cable-news outrage of his base, not to mention the incompetence of his rivals and the intra-party squabbles on both sides of the aisle, that made his presidency even remotely possible.

Several times over, Trump nearly destroyed his candidacy, including multiple scandals that range from economic impropriety to his abundant personal failings, and unnecessary missteps like criticizing a vaunted war hero and picking fights with the families of fallen soldiers. In each case, the media moved from one story to another with frightening speed — before returning to Hillary Clinton’s supposedly newsworthy email scandal. Again, through no effort on his own, Trump emerged from the fire unscathed.

Tipping the Supreme Court toward hard-right conservative values will surely win Trump points with tried-and-true Republicans. No challenge from within his own party is likely to materialize in 2020. That means an incompetent president with little to show besides circumstantial and questionable achievements will waltz into the re-election fight untouched. Who can say what kind of bruised and battered opposition will be waiting for him?

There’s a real chance Donald Trump will make it to a second term out of pure, sheer and apparently inexhaustible luck. He’ll have a chance to stand at a podium hawking somebody else’s bottled water and failed magazines and bankrupt airlines, botched undertakings that pale next to his most underwhelming and underperforming product of all: the Trump presidency.

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P.S. I live in Virginia which is a big east coast wine destination (albeit smaller than New York) and I can tell you, the wine in Trump's Charlottesville vineyard ain't all that!

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Judge tosses out suit alleging Trump campaign and Roger stone conspired with Russia.

Wonder what a washed up porn star has to say about this?

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Judge tosses out suit alleging Trump campaign and Roger stone conspired with Russia.

Wonder what a washed up porn star has to say about this?



District Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle dismissed the suit on Tuesday evening, arguing that the Trump campaign was not sufficiently tied to Washington DC, and the suit was therefore outside her jurisdiction. She did not take a position on the suit’s allegations.

"It bears emphasizing that this Court’s ruling is not based on a finding that there was no collusion between defendants and Russia during the 2016 presidential election," she wrote. "This is the wrong forum for plaintiffs’ lawsuit. The Court takes no position on the merits of plaintiffs’ claims."


I seem to remember something about the Republican controlled Senate contradicting the House "finding"

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/39 ... sment-of-russian-election

But I guess a win is a win, even if it does nothing to prove your guilt or innocence.

I wonder what Ann Coulter has to say about this?

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He's not flipping IMHO. He's upping the pressure on Trump for a preemptive pardon.

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