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Re: Dangerous Donald
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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


I mean, the amount of money that illegal aliens pay in taxes is pretty well documented:

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how- ... deral-taxes-an-explainer/

"The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually. Undocumented immigrants also help make the Social Security system more solvent, as they pay into the system but are ineligible to collect benefits upon retiring. In 2010, $12 billion more was collected from Social Security payroll taxes of undocumented workers than were paid out in benefits."

Benefits for illegals are pretty much limited to the CHIP program. So no food stamps, whatever the $4500 for a new car means, and whatever the guy means by free rent.

I think that pretty much covers it, Joe but there are plenty of resources for this stuff if you're interested in educating yourself

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76% of immigrant families with children are on welfare.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvesp ... on-welfare-again-n2498018

Knowledge is power, comrade. Dont be a idiot

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76% of immigrant families with children are on welfare.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvesp ... on-welfare-again-n2498018

Knowledge is power, comrade. Dont be a idiot


Illegal immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid or food stamps.
You say Welfare but the stats you cite are for LEGAL immigrants and are for all forms of public assistance, such as school lunch programs, not just welfare. Many economists believe that providing assistance for legal immigrants is an investment in the future. The second generation of immigrants will enter the middle class after being educated and supported:
"A CBO report on the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 concluded that a path to legalization for immigrants would increase federal revenues by $48 billion. Such a plan would see $23 billion in increased costs from the use of public services, but ultimately, it would produce a surplus of $25 billion for government coffers, CBO said."

The full article is here:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/ ... igration-myths/index.html

The DREAM Act is also a good source for these studies as to the impact of educating legal immigrants. The DREAM Act was introduced by Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake, among others

No need to let your hatred of different skin colors get in the way of facts


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Re: Dangerous Donald
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"Donald Trump is not the target of any investigation. "
-Robert Mueller


Hmmm, that's interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic ... ml?utm_term=.8c40ad3210ba


Keep oiling that propaganda machine. Spin us some more tales about that '93 Miami game while you're at it.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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"Donald Trump is not the target of any investigation. "
-Robert Mueller


Hmmm, that's interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic ... ml?utm_term=.8c40ad3210ba


Keep oiling that propaganda machine. Spin us some more tales about that '93 Miami game while you're at it.


That WaPo story is unattributed.

Never believe ANYTHING The NY Times and the Washington ComPost print about Trump that is unattributed. Total fake news.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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Story confirmed by NPR back in April. Both are pretty solid on the media bias chart, for what it's worth. Seems like the investigation is now focusing on the Inauguration Parties and the presence of wealthy Russians.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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From Robert Reich:

Trump promised to be America’s dealmaker in chief, touting his “extraordinary” ability to negotiate. But so far – whether he’s dealing with foreign governments or with Congress – Trump has shown that he can’t make a deal. Here’s the list of no-deals:

1. No deal with North Korea. Following his summit with Kim Jong Un, Trump declared on Twitter that “there is no longer a nuclear threat” from North Korea. But in fact, there’s no deal. Kim conceded nothing on weapons and missile programs. Recent satellite imagery shows the North is actually improving its nuclear capability.

2. No deal on Nafta. Mexico and Canada won’t budge.

3. No deal with China on trade. Instead, we’re on the brink of a trade war with China, which is retaliating against U.S. tariffs.

4. No deal on steel and aluminum imports. Europe has imposed retaliatory tariffs on several products exported from the U.S. to Europe.

5. No deal to save jobs at Carrier. Since Trump promised to save jobs at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant, the company has outsourced hundreds of jobs to Mexico.

6. No deal on Syria.

7. No deal on Russia. Even though Trump and Putin will soon meet, Trump has given away any bargaining leverage by playing right into his hands.

8. No deal on Iran. Trump announced America’s exit from Iran nuclear deal. Since then, no negotiations.

9. No deal on climate change. Trump simply pulled out of the Paris accords. There have been no negotiations since.

10. No deal on Cuba. Last year, Trump reinstated travel and trade restrictions on the island nation lifted by the Obama administration, promising to strike a better relationship. Since then, talks have gone nowhere.

11. No deal with Group of 7 leading economic powers.

12. No deal on DACA or immigration. Trump promised to sign what he called a "bill of love" to extend protections for DREAMers. No deal.

13. No budget deal. Trump promised he wasn’t “going to cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.” But he has proposed cutting Social Security disability programs, Medicare, and Medicaid, all while increasing the federal deficit. So far, no deal on any of this.

14. No deal on replacing the Affordable Care Act. Trump and the Republican Congress never agreed to a new plan.

15. No deal on gun control. After the Parkland shooting, Trump promised to tighten background checks for gun buyers and said he’d consider raising the age for buying certain types of guns. Instead, he bowed to the NRA.

Bottom line: Trump can’t make deals. He can only pull out of deals already made, or pretend he’s made deals that soon evaporate. He’s perfected the art of the no deal.


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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


I mean, the amount of money that illegal aliens pay in taxes is pretty well documented:

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how- ... deral-taxes-an-explainer/

"The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually. Undocumented immigrants also help make the Social Security system more solvent, as they pay into the system but are ineligible to collect benefits upon retiring. In 2010, $12 billion more was collected from Social Security payroll taxes of undocumented workers than were paid out in benefits."

Benefits for illegals are pretty much limited to the CHIP program. So no food stamps, whatever the $4500 for a new car means, and whatever the guy means by free rent.

I think that pretty much covers it, Joe but there are plenty of resources for this stuff if you're interested in educating yourself

How many illegal aliens are in the USA?

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"Donald Trump is not the target of any investigation. "
-Robert Mueller


Hmmm, that's interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic ... ml?utm_term=.8c40ad3210ba


Keep oiling that propaganda machine. Spin us some more tales about that '93 Miami game while you're at it.


Take your fake news and fake beach stories and shove them up your ass Russia boy.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/co ... ationalist_kicked_out_of/

White nationalist kicked out by trump supporters. Looks like cryin' Strohs is out of talking points. Poor kid

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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wvufan1818 wrote:
"Donald Trump is not the target of any investigation. "
-Robert Mueller


Hmmm, that's interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic ... ml?utm_term=.8c40ad3210ba


Keep oiling that propaganda machine. Spin us some more tales about that '93 Miami game while you're at it.


Take your fake news and fake beach stories and shove them up your ass Russia boy.


See, that's funny. You can't take a rational point and argue it respectfully. You're a petulant child. You say you took your kid to the '93 Miami game. That would reasonably put you somewhere in your 50s, right? You really act like a spoiled millennial with the words and phrases you use. I can have civil disagreements with anybody on here and be respectful. You have to resort to calling people idiots, stupid, and say things like "Tell Me how my ass tastes." 50 year old men don't talk that way, especially not to fellow WVU fans. That's my problem with you. Being a WVU fan is something special but you treat others on here with so much disrespect that it's almost like you're not really part of the club. You're a fraud.

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White nationalist kicked out by trump supporters. Looks like cryin' Strohs is out of talking points. Poor kid


That's pretty weak you huckster dufus. W

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Story confirmed by NPR back in April. Both are pretty solid on the media bias chart, for what it's worth. Seems like the investigation is now focusing on the Inauguration Parties and the presence of wealthy Russians.


NPR not biased?

I want some of that stuff you smoking son.

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Strohs wrote: 3. No deal with China on trade. Instead, we’re on the brink of a trade war with China, which is retaliating against U.S. tariffs.


Anyone who doesn’t realize that we have been in a trade war with China long before President Trump took office is drinking some pretty serious cool aid. The fact is that China has been using trade war tactics on us for many years. It’s just we finally got a president who is willing to stand up and do something about it.

China’s Taxes on Imported Cars Feed Trade Tensions With U.S.
March 20, 2017
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.ny ... us-trade-tariffs.amp.html

Trump may be proven right on China tariffs
March 11, 2016
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc. ... -china-tariffs-chang.html
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"People say [Trump] would start a trade war. Well, no matter what The Donald does he can't start a trade war because we're already in a trade war with China. But only they are waging it," Chang told CNBC. "The question is how do we end it on terms not only advantageous to the United States but also to the international community."

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Strohs wrote: 3. No deal with China on trade. Instead, we’re on the brink of a trade war with China, which is retaliating against U.S. tariffs.


Anyone who doesn’t realize that we have been in a trade war with China long before President Trump took office is drinking some pretty serious cool aid. The fact is that China has been using trade war tactics on us for many years. It’s just we finally got a president who is willing to stand up and do something about it.

China’s Taxes on Imported Cars Feed Trade Tensions With U.S.
March 20, 2017
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.ny ... us-trade-tariffs.amp.html

Trump may be proven right on China tariffs
March 11, 2016
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc. ... -china-tariffs-chang.html
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"People say [Trump] would start a trade war. Well, no matter what The Donald does he can't start a trade war because we're already in a trade war with China. But only they are waging it," Chang told CNBC. "The question is how do we end it on terms not only advantageous to the United States but also to the international community."


Who would have thought a business man who has been doing these things his entire life would be good at this?

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Strohs wrote: 8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system
Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.
I mean, the amount of money that illegal aliens pay in taxes is pretty well documented: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how- ... deral-taxes-an-explainer/ "The IRS estimates that undocumented immigrants pay over $9 billion in withheld payroll taxes annually. Undocumented immigrants also help make the Social Security system more solvent, as they pay into the system but are ineligible to collect benefits upon retiring. In 2010, $12 billion more was collected from Social Security payroll taxes of undocumented workers than were paid out in benefits." Benefits for illegals are pretty much limited to the CHIP program. So no food stamps, whatever the $4500 for a new car means, and whatever the guy means by free rent. I think that pretty much covers it, Joe but there are plenty of resources for this stuff if you're interested in educating yourself
How many illegal aliens are in the USA?
Here I’ll answer it for you, 12 million. Just think all that money, they contribute,1,750 per illegal to our SSI and payroll taxes. But, ask a couple questions from that - 1) how many are children? They don’t contribute 2) how many children go to school? 3) how many mothers stay home? 4) what is the yearly cost to our system for each citizen, I’m talking just basic needs. The list is longer than this. So, you make it sound like they don’t do anything but give, but that is where you are wrong. The gross sums is they take more than give.

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8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


By your own admission, you don’t know who wrote the listicle you posted. Why is it that you are so confident taking an unattributed source as gospel even as you are so sure that the most basic, middle of the road fact checked media outlets are lying.

It’s an interesting position to take, I’m genuinely curious to hear how you justify it.

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joedaddyski wrote:
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Strohs wrote:
8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


By your own admission, you don’t know who wrote the listicle you posted. Why is it that you are so confident taking an unattributed source as gospel even as you are so sure that the most basic, middle of the road fact checked media outlets are lying.

It’s an interesting position to take, I’m genuinely curious to hear how you justify it.

Justify it - there are 20 items there bucko - how about you point out the ones you want justification on? And who cares about who wrote it and yes most of these are well documented when you watch the normal nightly news. I'll sit back and wait for your attempt to dispute most of them. You can't.

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joedaddyski wrote:
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Strohs wrote:
8, 13, and 11 fall into the Xenophobic category. The rest is a mixture of half-truths and blatant lies. The facts are that most illegals working in this country pay taxes without receiving any of the benefits but you've been convinced they walk in and the government hands them money. You can't receive social security benefits without first paying into the social security system

Your reply is full of half truths and lies. Prove the lies then then come back. I ask for 4 or 5. You can’t.


By your own admission, you don’t know who wrote the listicle you posted. Why is it that you are so confident taking an unattributed source as gospel even as you are so sure that the most basic, middle of the road fact checked media outlets are lying.

It’s an interesting position to take, I’m genuinely curious to hear how you justify it.

Justify it - there are 20 items there bucko - how about you point out the ones you want justification on? And who cares about who wrote it and yes most of these are well documented when you watch the normal nightly news. I'll sit back and wait for your attempt to dispute most of them. You can't.


Translation: I am unable to defend my unattributed source. Use bluster as an attempted distraction. Fail.

If they’re so easy to document, why don’t you do it? You’ve presented it as your point of view. It’s your responsibility to back it up, not mine.

Who cares who wrote it? I do - & you should too if you’re going to blindly accept it.

Bucko? Once again, y’all devolve into name calling mode when challenged. At least you didn’t resort to lewdness. That’s a refreshing change of pace.

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Hill is actually focusing on being called bucko. Someone sure diesnt want to defend his arguments.

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