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Re: Alt-Left Anti-Trump Bernie Sanders supporter opens fire on Republican baseball practice
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Here is some real history. It's from The Naked Communist, written in 1963. Its a detailed list of how communist would overthrow the American government. Here are a few things to ponder:

Congressional Record – Appendix, Pages A34-A35, Jan. 10, 1963.


17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations, which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and motion pictures.

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31) Belittle all forms of American culture, and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.”

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition, that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use “united force” to solve economic, political or social problems.



Clearly the left is totally insane. Its almost as if communism is their religion at this point in time. Look at that list and look around and tell me what you see....


The Naked Communist, written by W. Cleon Skousen, can hardly be considered real history. When Joseph McCarhy's people say he was too extreme, the ultra-conservative mayor of Salt Lake City compares him to a Nazi and calls him a liar, and the Church of Latter Day Saints distance themselves from him, you know the guy must be a lunatic. Reading about the guy, he seems like a cartoon character. This article was an entertaining read:
http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/

What's interesting is that if Glenn Beck hadn't dusted off a copy of some crappy book, Skousen would have been lost to history. Instead, you've got a bunch of idiots like the Oregon National Park occupiers treating this garbage like it's some sort of history book or prophecy. Seriously read about this guy for a good laugh. He thought Eisenhower was a soviet spy, he was fired as the Salt Lake City police chief for arresting the town's elite for playing cards in private clubs, he was against OSHA and the EPA, told tall tales about his FBI career, etc.
https://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/skousen

If you're following the teachings of this guy, you've got some real problems




Nice try, but you cant argue reality. I hate Glen Back and always have by the way. I dont go to his places where his writings are or whatever it is he does. Unlike liberals I think for myself instead of relying on social engineers to tell me what to think.
Look around --everyone see's it except really ignorant people, closed-minded people who dont want to see it, or people who actually agree with the plan to destroy America from within. The liberal defense of the Naked Communist as well as Rules For Radicals is pretty much nill. There is no good defense. This has nothing to do with Beck, or Hannity or Oreally or any of the ones you've been trained to hate. It has nothing to do with theories at all. Everyone knows the entire democrat platform is based off the desire to destroy America, except their brainwashed voter base.

Like I said though, they are waking up in masses. The left is losing massively in just abut every way currently. Decent people are leaving the party for many many reasons, and almost all of them can be tied to the dangerous ideas of communism.

And dude.....wtf does that Oregon thing have to do with anything lol? Haha its amazing how out of touch you people are.


You're doing a great job of dehumanizing people based on political beliefs.


Haha, that is hilarious!! Look at the title to this thread. Another Democrat gets violent. Why? Because of 2 decades of Constant dehumanization of conservatives. We are racist, bigots, mysoganistic, xenophobes, etc, etc, etc, etc. Constantly all the time its is all people have heard. It is totally one sided and always has been. All we have to do is kindly and politely disagree with your nazi ways and we are dehumanized. We've already been dehumanized. Its why we have a problem right now with the ignorant left attacking conservatives.

You know how to know I'm right? Because you fools cant even win anymore elections. Decent people clearly see what is going on. You guys want to kill and fight, while quietly good people are taking their country back at the voting booths. Watch it.

Oh yeah, and its not the message like your masters are now telling you after the really humiliating defeat you suffered in GA the other night. Its your actual agenda, not the message. We dont want it. None of it. If you want to be in a socialist society you'll have to move to one. We are going to start moving back the other direction. Your agenda is destructive and its being rejected. You can go back to the days of hiding it better, but I dont know if that would work now that most of the radicalism is out in the open at this point.

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You know how to know I'm right? Because you fools cant even win anymore elections.


I don't know but gerrymandering might have something to do with that but that's for the Supreme Court to decide.


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Also, don't you think it would be a real shame if hardworking conservatives took federally funded roads to go vote?

I'm sure that didn't happen though because principled people like yourself would never accept even the slightest bit socialism and would walk to the polls to prove it. They sure wouldn't take public transportation like a damn commie.

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Deli- stop, your wit is killing use.

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Deli, Dems tried to buy the election and lost. Get over it.
Ossoff spent over 23 million dollars and he received less votes than whoever ran last year and he literally spent nothing.

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Deli, Dems tried to buy the election and lost. Get over it.
Ossoff spent over 23 million dollars and he received less votes than whoever ran last year and he literally spent nothing.


Do you really think that is a fair statistical analysis? Of course voter turnout will be reduced for a special election. That is expected. The significant number of voters who voted for Price and didn't vote for Handel is the bigger story. Price won by taking almost 62% of the vote. Handel won but only received just less than 52% of the vote. Sorry, but that is significant, and certainly more significant than comparing the number of votes received in a full election and in a special election. You could easily say the loss of votes is a referendum on Trump. I don't know if it is, but it would be hard to argue with it without knowing more.

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Here is some real history. It's from The Naked Communist, written in 1963. Its a detailed list of how communist would overthrow the American government. Here are a few things to ponder:

Congressional Record – Appendix, Pages A34-A35, Jan. 10, 1963.


17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations, which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and motion pictures.

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31) Belittle all forms of American culture, and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.”

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition, that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use “united force” to solve economic, political or social problems.



Clearly the left is totally insane. Its almost as if communism is their religion at this point in time. Look at that list and look around and tell me what you see....


The Naked Communist, written by W. Cleon Skousen, can hardly be considered real history. When Joseph McCarhy's people say he was too extreme, the ultra-conservative mayor of Salt Lake City compares him to a Nazi and calls him a liar, and the Church of Latter Day Saints distance themselves from him, you know the guy must be a lunatic. Reading about the guy, he seems like a cartoon character. This article was an entertaining read:
http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/

What's interesting is that if Glenn Beck hadn't dusted off a copy of some crappy book, Skousen would have been lost to history. Instead, you've got a bunch of idiots like the Oregon National Park occupiers treating this garbage like it's some sort of history book or prophecy. Seriously read about this guy for a good laugh. He thought Eisenhower was a soviet spy, he was fired as the Salt Lake City police chief for arresting the town's elite for playing cards in private clubs, he was against OSHA and the EPA, told tall tales about his FBI career, etc.
https://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/skousen

If you're following the teachings of this guy, you've got some real problems




Nice try, but you cant argue reality. I hate Glen Back and always have by the way. I dont go to his places where his writings are or whatever it is he does. Unlike liberals I think for myself instead of relying on social engineers to tell me what to think.
Look around --everyone see's it except really ignorant people, closed-minded people who dont want to see it, or people who actually agree with the plan to destroy America from within. The liberal defense of the Naked Communist as well as Rules For Radicals is pretty much nill. There is no good defense. This has nothing to do with Beck, or Hannity or Oreally or any of the ones you've been trained to hate. It has nothing to do with theories at all. Everyone knows the entire democrat platform is based off the desire to destroy America, except their brainwashed voter base.

Like I said though, they are waking up in masses. The left is losing massively in just abut every way currently. Decent people are leaving the party for many many reasons, and almost all of them can be tied to the dangerous ideas of communism.

And dude.....wtf does that Oregon thing have to do with anything lol? Haha its amazing how out of touch you people are.


You're doing a great job of dehumanizing people based on political beliefs.


Haha, that is hilarious!! Look at the title to this thread. Another Democrat gets violent. Why? Because of 2 decades of Constant dehumanization of conservatives. We are racist, bigots, mysoganistic, xenophobes, etc, etc, etc, etc. Constantly all the time its is all people have heard. It is totally one sided and always has been. All we have to do is kindly and politely disagree with your nazi ways and we are dehumanized. We've already been dehumanized. Its why we have a problem right now with the ignorant left attacking conservatives.

You know how to know I'm right? Because you fools cant even win anymore elections. Decent people clearly see what is going on. You guys want to kill and fight, while quietly good people are taking their country back at the voting booths. Watch it.

Oh yeah, and its not the message like your masters are now telling you after the really humiliating defeat you suffered in GA the other night. Its your actual agenda, not the message. We dont want it. None of it. If you want to be in a socialist society you'll have to move to one. We are going to start moving back the other direction. Your agenda is destructive and its being rejected. You can go back to the days of hiding it better, but I dont know if that would work now that most of the radicalism is out in the open at this point.


Dude, stop drinking the Kool Aid. Not all people left of center are radicals. Not all Democrats are radicals. And, by the way, your data on right wing extremism versus left wing extremism is fabricated. You cannot include the far left wing extremists as the banner carrier for the left, then disavow yourself of all far right wing terrorists and only include christian soccer moms in your group. While left wing extremist hate crimes and terrorist acts are on the rise recently, the right wing extremists have been outpacing all other groups since 9/11, and they are still ahead of everybody. Those are the facts whether or not they suit your agenda.

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And, by the way, your data on right wing extremism versus left wing extremism is fabricated. You cannot include the far left wing extremists as the banner carrier for the left, then disavow yourself of all far right wing terrorists and only include christian soccer moms in your group. While left wing extremist hate crimes and terrorist acts are on the rise recently, the right wing extremists have been outpacing all other groups since 9/11, and they are still ahead of everybody. Those are the facts whether or not they suit your agenda.


Where are these so called "facts" you're referring to?

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WV is home, you know better than ask 88 for proof. He said it so it is.

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I'm convinced that Eers88, sandstone, deli, hill, and Strohs are paid to ignore obvious facts, post fake news, and push liberal agendas. There is no way people can be as stupid as them without getting money to do it on purpose. Hill and Strohs are Mr CNN then won't talk about anything else because the source info is "from Russia" or some bullshit that David Brock from shariablue tells them to say. Eers will post proven fake articles and when you call him out on it will ignore the thread altogether until it's bumped off the front page. Sandstone has to be either 10 years old, or Hillary Clinton because some of the stuff he posts is actually so pathetic it's hilarious to read while I'm on the shitter.

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And, by the way, your data on right wing extremism versus left wing extremism is fabricated. You cannot include the far left wing extremists as the banner carrier for the left, then disavow yourself of all far right wing terrorists and only include christian soccer moms in your group. While left wing extremist hate crimes and terrorist acts are on the rise recently, the right wing extremists have been outpacing all other groups since 9/11, and they are still ahead of everybody. Those are the facts whether or not they suit your agenda.


Where are these so called "facts" you're referring to?


All over the internet and media, except the right wing conspiracy echo chambers of propaganda that the regulars in here seem to turn to for information. For example, the Anti-Defamation League tracks terrorist activity and hate crimes, and reports:

Over the past 10 years (2007-2016), domestic extremists of all kinds have killed at least 372 people in the United States. Of those deaths, [i]approximately 74% were at the hands of right-wing extremists, about 24% of the victims were killed by domestic Islamic extremists, and the remainder were killed by left-wing extremists.[/i]

Here is the link: ADL Report

The data is also tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as other organizations. They don't have any benefit to skewing or misreporting the data; they are concerned with terrorism and defeating it, not with partisan politics.

FWIW - I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it. I am not saying all right wing people are terrorists or bad people or evil or the spawn of satan. But the majority of terrorist acts and hate crimes are coming from the fringe far right.

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Eers will post proven fake articles and when you call him out on it will ignore the thread altogether until it's bumped off the front page.


Link?


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FWIW - I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it. I am not saying all right wing people are terrorists or bad people or evil or the spawn of satan. But the majority of terrorist acts and hate crimes are coming from the fringe far right.


I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.




Fun fact about the ADL: The new head of the ADL is Jonathan Greenblatt, a former member of the Obama administration.


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I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it.
I am not saying all right wing people are terrorists or bad people or evil or the spawn of satan. But the majority of terrorist acts and hate crimes are coming from the fringe far right.


I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.




Fun fact about the ADL: The new head of the ADL is Jonathan Greenblatt, a former member of the Obama administration.



Let me clarify. I wholeheartedly agree with this portion of the statement.
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I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it.


To insinuate that the ADL is anything but a left wing propaganda "echo chamber" at this point in time is ridiculous to say the least.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/j ... naacp-and-other-left-wing


Seems to me the corporate media is always trying to spin acts of violence, as being committed by crazy right wingers. More and more the ones committing the acts turn out to be radical Marxist.

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Radical Marxist committing acts of violence? Hmm why does that sound familiar?
http://www.stephenhicks.org/2013/02/1 ... sity-of-violent-politics/

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And, by the way, your data on right wing extremism versus left wing extremism is fabricated. You cannot include the far left wing extremists as the banner carrier for the left, then disavow yourself of all far right wing terrorists and only include christian soccer moms in your group. While left wing extremist hate crimes and terrorist acts are on the rise recently, the right wing extremists have been outpacing all other groups since 9/11, and they are still ahead of everybody. Those are the facts whether or not they suit your agenda.


Where are these so called "facts" you're referring to?


All over the internet and media, except the right wing conspiracy echo chambers of propaganda that the regulars in here seem to turn to for information. For example, the Anti-Defamation League tracks terrorist activity and hate crimes, and reports:

Over the past 10 years (2007-2016), domestic extremists of all kinds have killed at least 372 people in the United States. Of those deaths, [i]approximately 74% were at the hands of right-wing extremists, about 24% of the victims were killed by domestic Islamic extremists, and the remainder were killed by left-wing extremists.[/i]

Here is the link: ADL Report

The data is also tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as other organizations. They don't have any benefit to skewing or misreporting the data; they are concerned with terrorism and defeating it, not with partisan politics.

FWIW - I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it. I am not saying all right wing people are terrorists or bad people or evil or the spawn of satan. But the majority of terrorist acts and hate crimes are coming from the fringe far right.


Well, never did I say that 'all' Democrats are nuts and I would prefer to clear that up. If you actually look at my posts, you'll see I clearly say that the normal people in that party are leaving in record numbers. I think more and more will leave, including you at some point. Which is my way of saying that I dont personally think you are a crazy commie lol. Its the party. Its the leaders and who's been pumping the money in it. The left agenda is radical and will fail, period. They have destroyed that party and are trying to bring dow this country. The JFK days are way over. He would have to run as a conservative now. Democrats have embraced evil.

However, the violence between the left and right is very one sided. Big time, If you think otherwise, you're totally brainwashed. Its 90% from the left and everyone paying attention knows it..

And I'm really sorry you had to post stats from the Southern Poverty Law Center --one of the most corrupt, radical groups around and a big part of the problem for both the left and right. If those are the people you listen to, its no wonder you're so out of touch with a lot of other folks. If you were shocked by the results of the GA election, perhaps you should start getting political opinions somewhere else. If you think America is racist perhaps you should start getting political opinions elsewhere or better yet look at the raw data and form your own.

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Eers88 wrote:
And, by the way, your data on right wing extremism versus left wing extremism is fabricated. You cannot include the far left wing extremists as the banner carrier for the left, then disavow yourself of all far right wing terrorists and only include christian soccer moms in your group. While left wing extremist hate crimes and terrorist acts are on the rise recently, the right wing extremists have been outpacing all other groups since 9/11, and they are still ahead of everybody. Those are the facts whether or not they suit your agenda.


Where are these so called "facts" you're referring to?


All over the internet and media, except the right wing conspiracy echo chambers of propaganda that the regulars in here seem to turn to for information. For example, the Anti-Defamation League tracks terrorist activity and hate crimes, and reports:

Over the past 10 years (2007-2016), domestic extremists of all kinds have killed at least 372 people in the United States. Of those deaths, [i]approximately 74% were at the hands of right-wing extremists, about 24% of the victims were killed by domestic Islamic extremists, and the remainder were killed by left-wing extremists.[/i]

Here is the link: ADL Report

The data is also tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as other organizations. They don't have any benefit to skewing or misreporting the data; they are concerned with terrorism and defeating it, not with partisan politics.

FWIW - I don't really care either. Terrorism and violence against fellow Americans is bad regardless of who does it. I am not saying all right wing people are terrorists or bad people or evil or the spawn of satan. But the majority of terrorist acts and hate crimes are coming from the fringe far right.


Well, never did I say that 'all' Democrats are nuts and I would prefer to clear that up. If you actually look at my posts, you'll see I clearly say that the normal people in that party are leaving in record numbers. I think more and more will leave, including you at some point. Which is my way of saying that I dont personally think you are a crazy commie lol. Its the party. Its the leaders and who's been pumping the money in it. The left agenda is radical and will fail, period. They have destroyed that party and are trying to bring dow this country. The JFK days are way over. He would have to run as a conservative now. Democrats have embraced evil.

However, the violence between the left and right is very one sided. Big time, If you think otherwise, you're totally brainwashed. Its 90% from the left and everyone paying attention knows it..

And I'm really sorry you had to post stats from the Southern Poverty Law Center --one of the most corrupt, radical groups around and a big part of the problem for both the left and right. If those are the people you listen to, its no wonder you're so out of touch with a lot of other folks. If you were shocked by the results of the GA election, perhaps you should start getting political opinions somewhere else. If you think America is racist perhaps you should start getting political opinions elsewhere or better yet look at the raw data and form your own.


90%? Wow, that's quite a number. So - where do you go to find your stats and raw data then?

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Well, never did I say that 'all' Democrats are nuts and I would prefer to clear that up. If you actually look at my posts, you'll see I clearly say that the normal people in that party are leaving in record numbers. I think more and more will leave, including you at some point. Which is my way of saying that I dont personally think you are a crazy commie lol. Its the party. Its the leaders and who's been pumping the money in it. The left agenda is radical and will fail, period. They have destroyed that party and are trying to bring dow this country. The JFK days are way over. He would have to run as a conservative now. Democrats have embraced evil.


Agree to disagree. You give every indication that you aren't reviewing a wide variety of sources. You appear to be getting your views shaped by the very far right wing, and aren't really testing what they are telling you.

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However, the violence between the left and right is very one sided. Big time, If you think otherwise, you're totally brainwashed. Its 90% from the left and everyone paying attention knows it..


Cite? You cannot simply pull statistics out of your ass and this one is obviously and provably false.

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And I'm really sorry you had to post stats from the Southern Poverty Law Center --one of the most corrupt, radical groups around and a big part of the problem for both the left and right. If those are the people you listen to, its no wonder you're so out of touch with a lot of other folks. If you were shocked by the results of the GA election, perhaps you should start getting political opinions somewhere else. If you think America is racist perhaps you should start getting political opinions elsewhere or better yet look at the raw data and form your own.


First, I didn't. I posted from the ADL and mentioned the SPLC. Second, the SPLC isn't corrupt or radical. Finally, let's look at what the Washington Times, a very conservative paper, has to say about it:

In the 14 years since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, nearly twice as many people have been killed in the United States by white supremacists and anti-government radicals than by Muslim jihadis, according to a new study.
White supremacists and anti-government radicals have killed 48 Americans, including last week’s deadly attack in South Carolina, versus 26 killings by Muslim radicals, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
New America program associate David Sterman said the study shows that white supremacy and anti-government idealists are a major problem, that their growth rate needs to be addressed and that there is an “ignored threat” woven in the fabric of American society.
“Each time it [right-wing, radical violence] comes up, there’s a tendency to dismiss it as lone actor, mental health issues,” he said. “So it’s important to not ignore threats,”


Here is the link: Washington Times

Being condescending doesn't make you right. I know the statistics on race, and they aren't good for minorities. I also have very well informed views on race and racism. I am a civil rights lawyer--I have to or I am not doing my job. I am well-versed in implicit bias as well as explicit outward racism. I know it inside and out. I won't presume to know your views on racism merely because you align yourself with other right wing people. I don't stereotype and I don't assume to know someone else's education on a subject, or other matters, without asking first. Those are flaws in the process of forming an opinion. I also know that framing the issue as whether "America is racist" is not going to lead to a well-informed debate. America isn't "racist." Americans, however, have racial biases just like any other body of people.


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Well, never did I say that 'all' Democrats are nuts and I would prefer to clear that up. If you actually look at my posts, you'll see I clearly say that the normal people in that party are leaving in record numbers. I think more and more will leave, including you at some point. Which is my way of saying that I dont personally think you are a crazy commie lol. Its the party. Its the leaders and who's been pumping the money in it. The left agenda is radical and will fail, period. They have destroyed that party and are trying to bring dow this country. The JFK days are way over. He would have to run as a conservative now. Democrats have embraced evil.


Agree to disagree. You give every indication that you aren't reviewing a wide variety of sources. You appear to be getting your views shaped by the very far right wing, and aren't really testing what they are telling you.

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However, the violence between the left and right is very one sided. Big time, If you think otherwise, you're totally brainwashed. Its 90% from the left and everyone paying attention knows it..


Cite? You cannot simply pull statistics out of your ass and this one is obviously and provably false.

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And I'm really sorry you had to post stats from the Southern Poverty Law Center --one of the most corrupt, radical groups around and a big part of the problem for both the left and right. If those are the people you listen to, its no wonder you're so out of touch with a lot of other folks. If you were shocked by the results of the GA election, perhaps you should start getting political opinions somewhere else. If you think America is racist perhaps you should start getting political opinions elsewhere or better yet look at the raw data and form your own.


First, I didn't. I posted from the ADL and mentioned the SPLC. Second, the SPLC isn't corrupt or radical. Finally, let's look at what the Washington Times, a very conservative paper, has to say about it:

In the 14 years since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, nearly twice as many people have been killed in the United States by white supremacists and anti-government radicals than by Muslim jihadis, according to a new study.
White supremacists and anti-government radicals have killed 48 Americans, including last week’s deadly attack in South Carolina, versus 26 killings by Muslim radicals, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
New America program associate David Sterman said the study shows that white supremacy and anti-government idealists are a major problem, that their growth rate needs to be addressed and that there is an “ignored threat” woven in the fabric of American society.
“Each time it [right-wing, radical violence] comes up, there’s a tendency to dismiss it as lone actor, mental health issues,” he said. “So it’s important to not ignore threats,”


Here is the link: Washington Times

Being condescending doesn't make you right. I know the statistics on race, and they aren't good for minorities. I also have very well informed views on race and racism. I am a civil rights lawyer--I have to or I am not doing my job. I am well-versed in implicit bias as well as explicit outward racism. I know it inside and out. I won't presume to know your views on racism merely because you align yourself with other right wing people. I don't stereotype and I don't assume to know someone else's education on a subject, or other matters, without asking first. Those are flaws in the process of forming an opinion. I also know that framing the issue as whether "America is racist" is not going to lead to a well-informed debate. America isn't "racist." Americans, however, have racial biases just like any other body of people.




Haha, you dont know jack sh!t. Do you know why you're so clueless? Because you listen to fake news. There is no comparison to the difference between the violent left and the right. No comparison, and the stupid, fake washington times is why you are so ignorant. Its not their fault tho--its yours. You've been told many times how fake your news is. You wont even open your mind enough to even begin to look into it.

Anyone who pays attention and can think for themselves can clearly see reality. The left is amazingly violent. The right just wants liberty and to live and let live --small government, more freedom. The left breeds violence, and I mean they literally seek to create it. They create class warfare and get people depressed with their twisted, pathetic world views. The angry, emotional distraught left. The suicide rate for people who identify as left is amazingly high. THink about that. Why do we want such screwed up people making the rules?

Honestly I think 90% is too generous. I think reality is more like 99.99% of the violence comes from lefties. You'll never really be able to prove it wrong either. You'll just site more fake news that only works on people with emotional issues. The left will not escape truth. Even with the NYT, WT and other media scum social engineering for you. The truth is coming out regardless.

It must suck to be a lefty right now. You all are losing pretty much everything.

Need more proof of how fake the left news is? Here is a brand new one.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

How about that Russia story now lol?

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Eers88 wrote:
Turkish wrote:
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Well, never did I say that 'all' Democrats are nuts and I would prefer to clear that up. If you actually look at my posts, you'll see I clearly say that the normal people in that party are leaving in record numbers. I think more and more will leave, including you at some point. Which is my way of saying that I dont personally think you are a crazy commie lol. Its the party. Its the leaders and who's been pumping the money in it. The left agenda is radical and will fail, period. They have destroyed that party and are trying to bring dow this country. The JFK days are way over. He would have to run as a conservative now. Democrats have embraced evil.


Agree to disagree. You give every indication that you aren't reviewing a wide variety of sources. You appear to be getting your views shaped by the very far right wing, and aren't really testing what they are telling you.

Quote:

However, the violence between the left and right is very one sided. Big time, If you think otherwise, you're totally brainwashed. Its 90% from the left and everyone paying attention knows it..


Cite? You cannot simply pull statistics out of your ass and this one is obviously and provably false.

Quote:

And I'm really sorry you had to post stats from the Southern Poverty Law Center --one of the most corrupt, radical groups around and a big part of the problem for both the left and right. If those are the people you listen to, its no wonder you're so out of touch with a lot of other folks. If you were shocked by the results of the GA election, perhaps you should start getting political opinions somewhere else. If you think America is racist perhaps you should start getting political opinions elsewhere or better yet look at the raw data and form your own.


First, I didn't. I posted from the ADL and mentioned the SPLC. Second, the SPLC isn't corrupt or radical. Finally, let's look at what the Washington Times, a very conservative paper, has to say about it:

In the 14 years since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, nearly twice as many people have been killed in the United States by white supremacists and anti-government radicals than by Muslim jihadis, according to a new study.
White supremacists and anti-government radicals have killed 48 Americans, including last week’s deadly attack in South Carolina, versus 26 killings by Muslim radicals, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
New America program associate David Sterman said the study shows that white supremacy and anti-government idealists are a major problem, that their growth rate needs to be addressed and that there is an “ignored threat” woven in the fabric of American society.
“Each time it [right-wing, radical violence] comes up, there’s a tendency to dismiss it as lone actor, mental health issues,” he said. “So it’s important to not ignore threats,”


Here is the link: Washington Times

Being condescending doesn't make you right. I know the statistics on race, and they aren't good for minorities. I also have very well informed views on race and racism. I am a civil rights lawyer--I have to or I am not doing my job. I am well-versed in implicit bias as well as explicit outward racism. I know it inside and out. I won't presume to know your views on racism merely because you align yourself with other right wing people. I don't stereotype and I don't assume to know someone else's education on a subject, or other matters, without asking first. Those are flaws in the process of forming an opinion. I also know that framing the issue as whether "America is racist" is not going to lead to a well-informed debate. America isn't "racist." Americans, however, have racial biases just like any other body of people.




Haha, you dont know jack sh!t. Do you know why you're so clueless? Because you listen to fake news. There is no comparison to the difference between the violent left and the right. No comparison, and the stupid, fake washington times is why you are so ignorant. Its not their fault tho--its yours. You've been told many times how fake your news is. You wont even open your mind enough to even begin to look into it.

Anyone who pays attention and can think for themselves can clearly see reality. The left is amazingly violent. The right just wants liberty and to live and let live --small government, more freedom. The left breeds violence, and I mean they literally seek to create it. They create class warfare and get people depressed with their twisted, pathetic world views. The angry, emotional distraught left. The suicide rate for people who identify as left is amazingly high. THink about that. Why do we want such screwed up people making the rules?

Honestly I think 90% is too generous. I think reality is more like 99.99% of the violence comes from lefties. You'll never really be able to prove it wrong either. You'll just site more fake news that only works on people with emotional issues. The left will not escape truth. Even with the NYT, WT and other media scum social engineering for you. The truth is coming out regardless.

It must suck to be a lefty right now. You all are losing pretty much everything.

Need more proof of how fake the left news is? Here is a brand new one.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

How about that Russia story now lol?


Tantrums don't create facts. If you cannot support any of your arguments with facts, then what does that tell you about your positions? And a CNN "health" producer who apparently hasn't been following the Trump campaigns connections to Russia won't change my mind either. Failing to recognize facts doesn't make them go away, whether you do it or that dimwit producer does it.

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