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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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WE CAN WORK WITH THIS!!!

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Posted on: 1/21/2011 4:04 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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Melons on the menu?

Posted on: 1/21/2011 4:12 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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MikeOly wrote:
WE CAN WORK WITH THIS!!!

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Excuse me, waiter...I would like a loaf of bread, there is some sauce left that I would like to sop up...

Posted on: 1/21/2011 4:20 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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Melons on the menu?


I have some prosciutto I would like to wrap around those melons...

Posted on: 1/21/2011 4:21 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
Gettin' Schmitty
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AHHHH! Something the lefties and righties agree on. Let us proceed to the deficit.

Posted on: 1/21/2011 5:18 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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Democrats are acting like $2.5 trillion Republicans have identified for budget cuts are optional.

They aren't.

The only way we're going to be able to pay for all the debts run up ($14 trillion, and that's hard debts, not projected liabilities) is to return to WWII manufacturing and production footing, a wartime (which we're in by the way) sacrifices economy where everyone will be pulled into work because there's so much to do.

And that isn't about making things to sell to other people, that's making things we need to stop borrowing money to buy from other countries. (hello, China.)

And doing the massive amount of construction and cleanup that has been put off for decades by people who ran this great nation into the ground. And spent their kids and grandkids money instead.

Like with the budget cutbacks, this isn't theoretical or optional. It is survival as everyone lived it prior to the privileged boomer and offspring generations.

The days of living high on the hog on borrowed money are over. The days of living WWII sacrifices are beginning.

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Posted on: 1/22/2011 2:49 am
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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Democrats are acting like $2.5 trillion Republicans have identified for budget cuts are optional.


And the Republicans are acting like there is no other possible way.

This is the problem.

Instead of compromise, both stomp their feet and act like children.

Posted on: 1/22/2011 7:49 am
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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I agree that's the behavior, but I'm not a fan of compromise. I believe a compromise is a compromised solution.

In an ideal world, there would be debate on a goal, but once the goal was voted on the best solution would be voted to be put into place for it.

A compromise to a goal is halfassed. It is weasely. It is without integrity. If it was any good, it would have been one of the goals. Instead it short of what anyone wants. Our country is a failure because no one has the gumption to make tough decisions. A compromise is not a tough decision, it is no decision, kick the can down the road because we don't have the balls to deal with it.

Conservatives have all of a sudden decided that massive debt is the number one problem, after they ran up the massive debt with not a care in the world. They still don't care what debt is run up if they could lower taxes all they wanted. They have an idealistic belief in the if you lower taxes enough, enough revenue will be raised to balance the budget. They also have idealistic beliefs that profit driven corporations will solve whatever the problem at hand is.

Eight years of that naiveness destroyed this country. And that's exactly what they wanted. They think it should be destroyed and return to some pre civil war era. They think all the problems go away then. That's their goal.

What's the compromise, to return to the 1950's?

The Democrats think taxing the wealthy (those making over $250,000 / year) will solve our problems. And also don't care a bit about running up massive debts because they believe in a naive idealistic "creates jobs" notion. Well, save jobs anyway they say.

They are both wrong, and there is no compromise that includes both wrong goals that is right.

I think the basic goals stated in this thread are right, that people know what is right and needed, but there is no independent political force strong enough to win public approval of a coherent plan and vote it into place.

Independents and Libertarians represent the rational thinking and action needed, but must choose between Republicans and Democrats, each with their failed goals.

Teabaggers are Republicans on steroids. There's no foundation for an Independent third party, so we're set in stone to watch a lot of footstamping over which failed goal will prevail.

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Posted on: 1/22/2011 11:35 am
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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More melons, please.


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Posted on: 1/22/2011 1:28 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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The only way to make this dept go away is simple.
1) quite spending on social welfare
2) quite corporate welfare
3) put tariffs, tarriffs that are reasonable yet not extreme, on all imported goods
4) all elected officials must report all income every year and full disclosure of re-election war chests, any and all unused war chewst election funds raised must be turned over to the general fund - state, county, city and federal level, directly after every election.
5) No retirement for congress or senate. Spend 4 or 6 years in at a salary and then if you are doing a good job and you can live on or save for your retirement on the pay and get re-elected good for you.
6) NO elected official can vote for a their own pay raise.

I am sure I might of missed a few but this is a good start and word greatly reduse the corruption and missappropriations of authority.


Posted on: 1/22/2011 1:59 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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WE CAN WORK WITH THIS!!!

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Thank you for your intelligent response. And for a minute there I thought you were gay.

Now back to the real issue ...

I guess you have no real answer ... Do you ...

You liberal progressive intellectual hate mongered.

Posted on: 1/22/2011 8:16 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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PS - I doubt you know what to do with that!

Posted on: 1/22/2011 8:22 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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Your intellectual limitations are showing!

You elitist intellectual moron piece of ****!

Posted on: 1/22/2011 8:26 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
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So ... Anyway ... There I was....

Posted on: 1/22/2011 8:27 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
Gettin' Schmitty
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The 1st two links on the 1st two posts did nothing but stir the pot and everyone followed suit. Is that what Liberalism is about......stir the pot with no substance and keep rotating the subject so that no one knows what the 1st question was? It worked!

Sara Barnhard must have had rent due and needed a little doe. Madonna is such a brainiac. We should all follow her mindlessly. (in a hitler support type format) All hail to Madonna. All hail to Madonna. All hail to Madonna.

Posted on: 1/22/2011 9:47 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
Gettin' Schmitty
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sg44gold wrote:

You liberal progressive intellectual hate mongered.


What is a "mongered"?

Posted on: 1/22/2011 10:17 pm
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Re: The Progessive Liberal Lefty Hate Machine
Pitt Hater
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Proud2BanEer wrote:
. We should all follow her mindlessly. (in a hitler support type format) All hail to Madonna. All hail to Madonna. All hail to Madonna.


Yes. Godwin's Law rears its ugly head. And on a WVU sports site of all places.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Posted on: 1/22/2011 10:48 pm
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Re: The Regressive Reactionary Right Wing Hate Machine
Pitt Hater
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sg44gold wrote:

You liberal progressive intellectual hate mongered.


What is a "mongered"?


I wouldn't even try to guess what goes on in sg's head, but I'm guessing that it has something to do with what happens when you post after a few too many.

It's the 21st Century version of making a fool of yourself down at the corner bar.

Posted on: 1/22/2011 11:13 pm
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