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How is that de-centralization of content supply working out for the music industry? Not well. ![Open in new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4d5ea2acccd1d54e7c030000/music-industry.jpg");) $71 per capita in 2000 to $26 today. While I don't deny that access and distribution won't be more widespread I don't think that this adds to the pot of money. I actually see it going the other way. While you have to remember that while it would seem that more people bidding on the same product would help revenue the problem is that with all of the competition no one will want to spend much money on any individual item as for every potential watcher there will be hundreds of thousands of potential shows to watch. The hardcore fan of a team will definitely watch. The people you NEED to get for a good amount of money is the casual observer. The casual observer now will watch, say, Texas/Oklahoma or Oklahoma State/WVU or WVU/Pitt because they have a history and they want something to watch. But the fact is when I have potentially thousands of channels to watch something on another channel will trump the football game. I am not as optimistic about this future from the standpoint of being GOOD for the athletic department. I agree with the "WVU will be fine" argument. I just think all college football will suffer.
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That is a very interesting thought. Already, millennial's are not buying cable, they stream, just like they aren't buying landline phones, they use wireless. Some are concerned that a lack of internet coverage in rural areas will be an issue with this, but we are talking 8 or so years from now. Even now, less than 20% of the country are not served by high speed, and only 2% cannot get internet at all. Already, the networks are moving into the streaming media arena. You can get every major network, including foreign channels on Roku right now, and most for free. This is just a precursor to what is going on. There is a USA Today article in today's edition that is discussing the recently proposed AT&T/Time Warner merger as a desperation move on the part of both entities to try to stave off their inevitable demise. As these ancient behemoths crumble, with their 1980's technology over the next 5 to 10 years, the whole TV landscape is going to change, and with that, so will the conferences have to change to keep their brand relevant.
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I think I'd have to agree with this article. If your going to do a conference championship game at least expand to 11 and form two divisions. Bring just BYU in as football only. Split confence to two divisions of 6 and 5. Play 8 confenrence games. I'm pretty sure ESPN and fox will pay pro rata in this case. If they keep at 10 and still have CCG then this is just a pure money play. If they started the Conference championship this season, then imagine if WVU actually made it to Baylor unbeaten, and Baylor did also. You would have to win twice to make playoff.
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They are smart compared to the Sun Belt.
When the rule changed to allow a ten team league to hold a championship game, the Sun Belt promptly kicked out New Mexico State and Idaho after next year. They will have ten teams when Coastal Carolina joins, which they will either in 2017 or 2018. They plan to start the playoff then. The commissioner claims this is so the Sun Belt can have a better chance to be the group of 5 rep in the big bowls, or... I need to pause to giggle... snag a place in the playoff. All of this is dumb for two main reasons. 1) The Sun Belt is the bottom conference in FBS. They might be about equal with CUSA as far as football competence this year, but once you consider TV markets and other sports and so on, the Sun Belt is last. As the last conference, they are subject to being raided. Taking it to ten means they lose the championship game if they lose a team or more likely two. Meanwhile, the MWC has made no secret they are thinking about expanding into Texas. Plus even though the B12 isn't expanding now, they aren't the most consistent bunch. Either is likely to set off a chain reaction that would end with the Sun Belt losing a team. So it isn't some far fetched idea. Sure, ten teams instead of twelve means slicing the pie two less ways, but it seems close to the bone. New Mexico State is going indy, which is unlikely to last long, but that means the Sun Belt can get them back if they need to. Idaho, however, is dropping to FCS and won't be available. I guess they could try to get UMass. Other than that they would need to bring up an FCS school and that can take a few years. 2) A championship game will hurt more than help the Sun Belt's chances of getting into the group of five. A championship game helps most conferences because it is an extra data point. In this case, that extra data point is useless because it would be against a Sun Belt team. If a Sun Belt team is considered at all, it will be on the strength of a good OOC schedule, like if Appy State beat two ranked teams, and another decent P5 team, and finished undefeated in a year where the other group of five conferences have two loss champions. Nobody will care that Appy State beat one of the Sun Belt teams twice. Also, it appears that the Sun Belt is considering going to nine conference games, so they can play a full round robin. This makes scheduling good teams OOC even harder... Not that it matters to WVU at all, except that there is at least one conference sillier than the B12.
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i've done a dozen or so different mock conferences and championship formats over the years. mine is still better than this.
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Didn't know where to put this but Liberty University is moving up to Fbs. The Ncaa approved their waiver to move up as an Indy.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26 ... team-approved-to-join-fbs
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Great move Liberty. Should have taken notes from when Marshall moved up. How did that work for them?
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Liberty already pays their coach more than Marshall. Gill makes 650k a year. They are extremely financially stable. 1.8 Billion endowment. Also better facilities. Building a $20 million practice facility. Adding 6k + seats to their 19k stadium that they consistently sell out. Plus Lynchburg is a city of 80k and growing. Metro has 260k +. Also, they can be a national brand with their Christian values. Kind of like Notre-Dame and byu. Long ways off, though, if that happens. Impressive NCAA allowed them to move up with no conference.
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Uhh Doc Holliday makes $755,000 a year, but I agree with Lynchburg as a growing city and what not.
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Lynchburg is a nice city. Libery is a growing university and is constantly building new dorms and other infa-structure. The bad part is traffic is starting to be a problem. I imagine they will be a more attractive team for WVU when they become FBS.
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That article says nothing substantial about Big 12 expansion.
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Ah, but that is the point. This is the "speculation" thread. What else can we do but speculate? 
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@LesterBoy Touché!
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Yeah. "I wouldn't be surprised" is more a statement about how weird the B12 is acting than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if they kicked out Baylor and added Sam Houston State. I wouldn't be surprised if they banned helmets. I wouldn't be surprised if they sold naming rights to the conference to Taco Bell. (At least "The Big Chalupa" isn't numerically incorrect) I wouldn't be surprised if they named that guy from the Dr. Pepper commercials that is the embodiment of why uncles are annoying to be the official chaplain of the conference. I wouldn't be surprised if they found physical evidence proving the accuracy of M theory. etc.
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Actually, I was kind of hoping they would get that guy to be the new commissioner of the conference. He did have enough pull to get into Steve Spurrier's house. I doubt Bowelsby could find the house or be allowed in.
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He would also bring free drinks to the meetings, which if he leaves it at that makes him the best B12 commissioner in quite a while.
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Here's my fantasy conference proposal, involving the radical step of dropping the number of FBS schools to 84 and aligning them in twelve conferences with seven teams each. It's actually what a conference alignment would look like using a strictly geographical based rationale, although it does sacrifice a number of classic rivalries (Army-Navy, Michigan-Ohio State and USC-UCLA and it still does not restore the Backyard Brawl) but the format is flexible enough to admit tweaking and having only six conference opponents for each team means plenty of schedule room to retain classical rivalries that aren't included in the conference setup.
Anyway, here's my proposal for the twelve conferences: THE NORTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Army Boston College Penn State Pittsburgh Rutgers Syracuse Temple THE MID-ATLANTIC CONFERENCE Duke Maryland Navy Virginia Virginia Tech Wake Forest West Virginia THE SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Clemson East Carolina Florida Miami North Carolina North Carolina State South Carolina THE NORTHERN CONFERENCE Illinois Michigan Michigan State Northwestern Notre Dame Purdue Wisconsin THE BLUEGRASS CONFERENCE Cincinnati Indiana Kentucky Louisville Ohio State Tennessee Vanderbilt THE DEEP SOUTH CONFERENCE Alabama Auburn Florida State Georgia Georgia Tech Mississippi State Southern Mississippi THE CORNBELT CONFERENCE Iowa Iowa State Kansas Kansas State Minnesota Missouri Nebraska THE GULF COAST CONFERENCE Arkansas Memphis Mississippi Oklahoma Oklahoma State Southern Methodist Tulsa THE LONE STAR CONFERENCE Baylor Houston Louisiana State Rice Texas A&M Texas Christian Tulane THE GREAT NORTHWEST CONFERENCE Colorado State Oregon Oregon State Utah Washington Washington State Wyoming THE PACIFIC COAST CONFERENCE Air Force Brigham Young California Colorado New Mexico Stanford UCLA THE SOUTHWESTERN CONFERENCE Arizona Arizona State San Diego State Southern California Texas Texas-El Paso Texas Tech
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