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Re: Dangerous Donald

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So since the enection, almost every liberal has claimed Russia hacked us. So Trump calls all 50 states for voter data. Now those same people alleging our election was hacked now want to prevent investigation into voter data? Wonder why?


The issue isn't preventing any investigation into voter fraud. The issue is protecting voter's confidential information and preventing voter suppression. You don't see a problem with the federal government seeking this kind of data? Really?

BTW - do you think it is a coincidence that at the same time Trump is trying to gather the very information that Russia hacked in some states and sought to hack in others, he is also creating a joint venture with the Russians related to election hacking while also trying to remove the sanctions against them for the hacking? That doesn't smell fishy to you?

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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"Trumpians", and you're the one who likes to accuse others of being immature for name calling. Humorous to see your response to my posts is an attempt to change the subject. Guess I'll go elsewhere for an intellectual discussion of what's really wrong in our country today, but you keep fighting the good fight there Willy Vanilli.





I use the quote function when directly responding to someone. Name calling complaints? I think you might have me mixed up with someone else. Trumpians? Sorry - I just didn't feel like typing 'Trump supporters' at the time. Whatever, dude.


Not so much a complaint as pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

Point taken on the fact that you weren't responding to me.

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An interesting piece from the Wall Street Journal. To me, interesting b/c the WSJ is generally pretty fastidious about publishing only verified facts.

Russian Officials Overheard Discussing Trump Associates Before Campaign Began

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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Honestly to people who pay attention, the Russia story was never legit anyway. There was never any evidence. Plenty of evidence of Hillary and the DNC having bad dealing with the Russians, but zero evidence that Trump colluded or they hacked the DNC or whatever.


^THIS

To Free Thinkers, it was an obvious fabrication.


The other piece the Left keeps missing....if Putin and Trump are in cahoots, why in the hell has US-Russian diplomacy went to the shitter?


So this post is aging well.

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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Honestly to people who pay attention, the Russia story was never legit anyway. There was never any evidence. Plenty of evidence of Hillary and the DNC having bad dealing with the Russians, but zero evidence that Trump colluded or they hacked the DNC or whatever.


^THIS

To Free Thinkers, it was an obvious fabrication.


The other piece the Left keeps missing....if Putin and Trump are in cahoots, why in the hell has US-Russian diplomacy went to the shitter?


So this post is aging well.


TBH, I've all but stopped paying attention to all this nonsense.

My question still stands. Are y'all saying Russia colluded with Trump to get him elected.... just so Putin could pick a fight with him?

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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Eers88 wrote:
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WVisHome wrote:
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Honestly to people who pay attention, the Russia story was never legit anyway. There was never any evidence. Plenty of evidence of Hillary and the DNC having bad dealing with the Russians, but zero evidence that Trump colluded or they hacked the DNC or whatever.


^THIS

To Free Thinkers, it was an obvious fabrication.


The other piece the Left keeps missing....if Putin and Trump are in cahoots, why in the hell has US-Russian diplomacy went to the shitter?


So this post is aging well.


TBH, I've all but stopped paying attention to all this nonsense.

My question still stands. Are y'all saying Russia colluded with Trump to get him elected.... just so Putin could pick a fight with him?


I didn't realize that was a real question, and I don't know how anyone could consider it "nonsense." We are talking about the sanctity of the election process, are we not? To answer your question, no, we aren't saying that; at least I am not and I don't know anybody else who is either.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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I'm really curious why Trump wants to know if he can pardon himself?

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I'm sorry, WHO interfered in WHO'S election???

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/obamas ... in-the-israeli-elections/



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I'm really curious why Trump wants to know if he can pardon himself?


UGH. He doesn't WANT to know. He simply restated that the President can pardon anyone. Ask Obama and Clinton.

What Trump wanted to know is IF they are investigating the crimes we KNOW occurred. The leaks and the unmasking of American citizens.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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The "sanctity" of the election process???

Hmm.

Do you mean like NON-citizens or DEAD people voting???

Is THAT what you are concerned with???

If not, then you don't REALLY care about the "sanctity" of our elections ... do you.

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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The "sanctity" of the election process???

Hmm.

Do you mean like NON-citizens or DEAD people voting???

Is THAT what you are concerned with???

If not, then you don't REALLY care about the "sanctity" of our elections ... do you.


Certainly we don't want ineligible voters to vote. But we also do not want to disqualify eligible voters from voting. Wouldn't you agree?

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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I'm sorry, WHO interfered in WHO'S election???

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/obamas ... in-the-israeli-elections/




You realize this is an opinion piece, right? Disguised as news? Did you see the part where the newspaper said that the views expressed are that of the author? It also doesn't support any of the "facts" on which the opinion is based.

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Re: Dangerous Donald
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This is really dangerous, NOT.
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump wrote in a series of Twitter posts.
Try do tear this one up.
I am so glad we did not elect a president that thinks anything not normal should be shoved down our throats, literally. Ha-ha.

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Funny that a guy who pays hookers to pee on him and ran away from the military because he had "bone spurs" on his pussie is suddenly an authority on normal and who's fit to serve.

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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People that think their vaginas should be penises and vica-versa have mental disorders and are indeed not fit for military service.

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I would hope the trans people in the military issue is a matter of being practical, and not having to accommodate people with needs the military isn't necessarily set up to handle.

Regardless of what Trump says, eventually the government will be sued and forced to let them in.

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Funny that a guy who pays hookers to pee on him and ran away from the military because he had "bone spurs" on his pussie is suddenly an authority on normal and who's fit to serve.

Did he really do that? You know, have hookers pee on him? Can you provide proof? Have you ever had bone spurs on your pussie?

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Re: Dangerous Donald

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People that think their vaginas should be penises and vica-versa have mental disorders and are indeed not fit for military service.


Not according to the American Psychiatric Association.

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People that think their vaginas should be penises and vica-versa have mental disorders and are indeed not fit for military service.


Not according to the American Psychiatric Association.


Until recently, it was in fact called a "disorder". It is still a medical diagnosis, just under a different moniker.

In 2013, they changed the NAME from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria". This change was made SOLEY for the purpose of "avoiding the stigma" of it actually being a disorder.


Enjoy this excerpt from your source of claim.

https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Libr ... SM-5-Gender-Dysphoria.pdf


In the upcoming fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people whose gender at birth is contrary to the one they identify with will be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. This diagnosis is a revision of DSM-IV’s criteria for gender identity disorder and is intended to better characterize the experiences of affected children, adolescents, and adults.

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DSM not only determines how mental disorders are defined and diagnosed, it also impacts how people see themselves and how we see each other. While diagnostic terms facilitate clinical care and access to insurance coverage that supports mental health, these terms can also have a stigmatizing effect.

DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name “gender identity disorder” with “gender dysphoria,” as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria. It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.



So, no...it is still a DISORDER that is medically diagnosed (and is defined in a book called Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) ...but is just CALLED "gender dysphoria" instead of "gender identity disorder".


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Re: Dangerous Donald

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WVisHome wrote:
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Eers88 wrote:
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People that think their vaginas should be penises and vica-versa have mental disorders and are indeed not fit for military service.


Not according to the American Psychiatric Association.


Until recently, it was in fact called a "disorder". It is still a medical diagnosis, just under a different moniker.

In 2013, they changed the NAME from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria". This change was made SOLEY for the purpose of "avoiding the stigma" of it actually being a disorder.


Enjoy this excerpt from your source of claim.

https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Libr ... SM-5-Gender-Dysphoria.pdf


In the upcoming fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people whose gender at birth is contrary to the one they identify with will be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. This diagnosis is a revision of DSM-IV’s criteria for gender identity disorder and is intended to better characterize the experiences of affected children, adolescents, and adults.

Respecting the Patient, Ensuring Access to Care

DSM not only determines how mental disorders are defined and diagnosed, it also impacts how people see themselves and how we see each other. While diagnostic terms facilitate clinical care and access to insurance coverage that supports mental health, these terms can also have a stigmatizing effect.

DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name “gender identity disorder” with “gender dysphoria,” as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria. It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.



So, yes...it is still a DISORDER that is medically diagnosed (and is defined in a book called Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) ...but is just CALLED "gender dysphoria" instead of "gender identity disorder".


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You might want to re-read what you posted. It specifically says,"gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder." In your post, you stated:
People that think their vaginas should be penises and vica-versa have mental disorders and are indeed not fit for military service. So I wrote that the APA disagrees, which it does, as shown by what you posted, which is what I was basing my post on. It isn't a disorder, so it certainly cannot be a disorder that disqualifies someone from military service.

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