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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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Even though I agree with most everything you say, how do you know a d-league could support itself?
75k per player, support staff, coaches, venues, etc. cost.
How about a business plan to backup this statement? Easy to sit in front of a computer and type, isn't it?


He isn't saying the D League would need to be self sustaining. He is saying that the NBA should invest in a D League with higher salaries. I don't think the issue is one of whether the money to sustain it is there. The issue is whether the NBA sees a return on investment to make it worthwhile. The proposed system is similar to European football (soccer) clubs who field a team in the highest leagues, a reserve team in a lower league, and a youth squad in a youth league. These clubs invest huge sums of money in player development, and the players all train together so the youngest players get an understanding of the discipline necessary to make it at a major club. Their system for transferring players, however, involves selling the rights to the player for money, rather than a trade. When a transfer occurs, there are two negotiations: one between clubs for the transfer of rights; and, one between the new club and the player for salary, etc. Clubs can make tens or hundreds of millions of dollars by selling a player, so player development can actually be a revenue stream. The NBA is more limited, however, because they trade for players or draft picks. They would really be investing in a system to develop players for their own NBA rosters, and it doesn't seem like they are hurting for bodies.

Well hell, why in the world didn't he just type that.

Bump - didn't see a confirmation yet.


Conformation for what?

He's close, but not really what I was talking about.

The NBA is very much hurting for bodies capable of playing at an NBA level, and the current salary/development structure is extremely inefficient as to this. Having a d-league team and unlimited two way contracts under a single cap irons out a bunch of inefficiencies and would in the long run save way more money than it would cost.

It isn't a matter of just beefing up the d-league. There would also have to be significant changes to the CBA that cause these inefficiencies.

Right now, the rookie scale, max salary limit, salary floor, and restricted roster size combine to inflate the living hell out of the salaries of mid-tier veteran players. An NBA team is way better off in the long run in every way if can sign 10 or so prospects to decent small deals and develop them in-house in hopes of finding value than being forced to use that money to wildly overpay the likes of Jeremy Lin.

You made my point. Carry on.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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Official announcement that Carter is coming back! On another note, there has been a lot of chatter that Elijah Macon may skip his senior season to go play overseas. I know that his family situation has been difficult and that he may be in the position where he needs to start earning an income. He already has his degree, and if he has to make that decision, I wish him the best. I also would love to see him back next season.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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Official announcement that Carter is coming back! On another note, there has been a lot of chatter that Elijah Macon may skip his senior season to go play overseas. I know that his family situation has been difficult and that he may be in the position where he needs to start earning an income. He already has his degree, and if he has to make that decision, I wish him the best. I also would love to see him back next season.


Macon has apparently signed with an agent.

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Elijah Macon not coming back

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Sigh.

I understand and support his decision, but we really could have used him next year.

West Virginia University men’s basketball player Elijah Macon will not return for his final season of eligibility and will pursue a professional career.

Macon made the announcement on his Facebook page, thanking WVU head coach Bob Huggins and assistant Erik Martin “for believing in a young 15 year old boy growing up from the Southside of Columbus, (Ohio) losing my mother and still having you guys push me to be the man I have become.”

Huggins, in a statement released via WVU sports information, said he respected the decision.

“Elijah is in the process of completing classes during this summer school period that ends June 2 and will graduate with a bachelor’s degree in August,” Huggins said. “I respect his decision to become a professional basketball player and to go make money to support his family. He had a great four years with us, and we wish him nothing but the best.”



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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I can't really blame him for going and making his money, obviously selfish reasons want him to stay around, but it sounds like he needs the money and could make some good money overseas. Good luck to him, and Once A Mountaineer, Always A Mountaineer.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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Certainly hope it is the right decision for him. He finally showed flashes of that 4-star rating he had as a recruit this past season; you have to wonder if he stuck around and came into his own his senior year what his options would have looked like.

I'm glad he got his degree, he'll always have that to fall back on.

We're gonna have to get some big-time production from some youngsters if we're going to contend in the B12 and beyond this year.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I can't really blame him for going and making his money, obviously selfish reasons want him to stay around, but it sounds like he needs the money and could make some good money overseas. Good luck to him, and Once A Mountaineer, Always A Mountaineer.


Agreed.

This also all but confirms that Derek Culver will be joining the Mountaineers for the 2017-18 season.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I didn't know Macon had a family? Is he married with kids?
If not A chance to make Final Four, should be reason enough to stay, it would certainly prob. raise your pay and brand. Well, like Devin Williams I think he is making a mistake. Not sure how good he could of been next year but if he had a breakout year, then you never know what happens in the draft. Buddy Hield went from never being mentioned as a NBA prospect in 2015, not even on the top 100 list, to NBA lottery. in 2016. Now not saying that could happen with Macon, but lets say he averaged 17 and 10, next year, then I could see maybe being a late second rounder.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I can't really blame him for going and making his money, obviously selfish reasons want him to stay around, but it sounds like he needs the money and could make some good money overseas. Good luck to him, and Once A Mountaineer, Always A Mountaineer.


Agreed.

This also all but confirms that Derek Culver will be joining the Mountaineers for the 2017-18 season.


DP had a piece in an article today that said Culver says he will be here and enrolled on time. Said his getting kicked off the team last year wasn't from academic issues.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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This also all but confirms that Derek Culver will be joining the Mountaineers for the 2017-18 season.


DP had a piece in an article today that said Culver says he will be here and enrolled on time. Said his getting kicked off the team last year wasn't from academic issues.


That's reassuring....

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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I wish Macon all the best, but I don't think he has the overall skill set and one-on-one ball skills to play at the next level.

For his sake, I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Carter summits name for NBA Draft
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Much rather lose Macon than Carter, Sags next man up?

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