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Re: What is Divisive???
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In my opinion, They are doing this to piss people off and force a conversation. Obviously it is working. Bet conservatives are proud of not falling for it!

Good for them and god bless freedom of speech!


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I agree with you but, I still believe it's backfiring on the protesters as well. What the conversations are really about are whether or not it's disrespectful to kneel during the anthem. Social injustice is always stated as the reason for the protest but the ensuing conversation is not about that at all. It even appears to me that the bigger this gets the farther it gets away from that topic. I've said from the beginning that if Colon Krappynick really wanted change, kneeling and doing nothing is the least effective way to accomplish that.

JJ Watt and his hurricane relief fundraising are a much better example of a prominent figure using their status to make things happen.


I think that the only people straying from the original protest topic are the folks wailing that it is disrespectful to the military. The players doing it specifically say that is not the case but nope, not good enough for the right wing that know better.

I was about to agree with you about Kaepernick not backing up his talk until I read about his charitable donations from another post. That's pretty good stuff as well. No disrespect to JJ Watt...good stuff right there.



I do give CK credit for the financial donations. That's a good thing. However, that doesn't exactly scream "social justice warrior". That is why I referenced JJ Watt. Not only was he raising money ( a lot of money) but, before a dollar of that was even spent he was on the ground making things happen. He was gathering resources and getting things done. That is how you make things better.

Daniel Colby Cushman, "Dani D" from American Pickers has a Go Fund Me account set up for Puerto Rico. She is raising money and collecting donations. She and her boyfriend have arranged for transportation to deliver supplies to the hardest hit areas of the island. She is physically participating in making a change and getting it done.


Donating to causes is a good thing but, our very own government is living proof that you just can't throw money at something and make it better. It takes determined, competent people committed to the cause to make things right.


In regard to the message. I know that the players kneeling are staying on message. However, the rest of the country, including the media are only discussing who's right and who's wrong. They are not discussing "the why".

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Re: What is Divisive???
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eer_4da_beer wrote:
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Eer_4da_beer wrote:

In my opinion, They are doing this to piss people off and force a conversation. Obviously it is working. Bet conservatives are proud of not falling for it!

Good for them and god bless freedom of speech!


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DonKeebals wrote:

I agree with you but, I still believe it's backfiring on the protesters as well. What the conversations are really about are whether or not it's disrespectful to kneel during the anthem. Social injustice is always stated as the reason for the protest but the ensuing conversation is not about that at all. It even appears to me that the bigger this gets the farther it gets away from that topic. I've said from the beginning that if Colon Krappynick really wanted change, kneeling and doing nothing is the least effective way to accomplish that.

JJ Watt and his hurricane relief fundraising are a much better example of a prominent figure using their status to make things happen.


I think that the only people straying from the original protest topic are the folks wailing that it is disrespectful to the military. The players doing it specifically say that is not the case but nope, not good enough for the right wing that know better.

I was about to agree with you about Kaepernick not backing up his talk until I read about his charitable donations from another post. That's pretty good stuff as well. No disrespect to JJ Watt...good stuff right there.



I do give CK credit for the financial donations. That's a good thing. However, that doesn't exactly scream "social justice warrior". That is why I referenced JJ Watt. Not only was he raising money ( a lot of money) but, before a dollar of that was even spent he was on the ground making things happen. He was gathering resources and getting things done. That is how you make things better.

Daniel Colby Cushman, "Dani D" from American Pickers has a Go Fund Me account set up for Puerto Rico. She is raising money and collecting donations. She and her boyfriend have arranged for transportation to deliver supplies to the hardest hit areas of the island. She is physically participating in making a change and getting it done.


Donating to causes is a good thing but, our very own government is living proof that you just can't throw money at something and make it better. It takes determined, competent people committed to the cause to make things right.


In regard to the message. I know that the players kneeling are staying on message. However, the rest of the country, including the media are only discussing who's right and who's wrong. They are not discussing "the why".


I'm with you. Good post.


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Re: What is Divisive???
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NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, is more divisive for a US citizens to do than disrespecting the US Flag, the National Anthem and all of the brave soldiers that fought and died protecting that Flag and our freedoms.

Those, like Godell, Brady, Kraft, LeBron and others that think what Trump said was divisive could not be MORE wrong!

The First Amendment and apparently the NFL Players Union Bargaining Agreement allows the players to take a knee.

And the rest of us have every RIGHT to JUDGE that action.


I think you are pretty divisive....

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Yea. These days, believing in individual rights, individual freemdoms, lower taxes and the smallest government possible is very divisive. Throw in a belief in the Constitution, as written, and the progressive socialist leftist fascists hate you.

It's still We The People, right???

Or is it We The Federal Government???

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.

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Re: What is Divisive???

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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.



Says the guy who supports an admitted sexual predator in the White House. Yawn.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.



Says the guy who supports an admitted sexual predator in the White House. Yawn.


I didn't know 1818 was such a Bill Clinton supporter?!
Who knew?

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.



Says the guy who supports an admitted sexual predator in the White House. Yawn.


Bill Clinton isn't in the white house anymore. THANK GOD.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, is more divisive for a US citizens to do than disrespecting the US Flag, the National Anthem and all of the brave soldiers that fought and died protecting that Flag and our freedoms.


How about disrespecting a US soldier that gave his life in the line of duty, and telling his wife "He knew what he was getting into"?

I'd say that gives kneeling a run for it's money.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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sg44gold wrote:
NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, is more divisive for a US citizens to do than disrespecting the US Flag, the National Anthem and all of the brave soldiers that fought and died protecting that Flag and our freedoms.


How about disrespecting a US soldier that gave his life in the line of duty, and telling his wife "He knew what he was getting into"?

I'd say that gives kneeling a run for it's money.


To be fair...the president didn't refer to anyone by name. He merely said "your guy" while making his self-proclaimed famous war casualty call.

"Your guy" obviously meant someone else. He would never take such a solemn duty lightly.

...and before conservatives wail about politicizing war deaths: it was your guy that did that.

Posted on: 10/19 12:12 am
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Re: What is Divisive???
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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.


I care more about my tax dollars spent on the pre-planned dog and pony show. But I realize that our President's travel bill doesn't concern y'all. silly me.

Weinstein's douchebaggery is sick... but we didn't get taxed for it. Apples vs oranges.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Not only did she lie about what Trump said, she has habitually voted against bills intended to help military families, and bills aimed to improve VA services provided to veterans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/ ... ns-vote-record-shows.html

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Democrats care more about The VPOTUS leaving a Colts game than they do about Harvey Weinstein abusing women for decades.


I care more about my tax dollars spent on the pre-planned dog and pony show. But I realize that our President's travel bill doesn't concern y'all. silly me.

Weinstein's douchebaggery is sick... but we didn't get taxed for it. Apples vs oranges.


Of course you care more about taxes than women men and children being raped for decades.

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/20/gol ... _caller&utm_campaign=push

Doesn't seem like a heartless man who disrespects soldiers.

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FYI - the Russians are bombarding US citizens with propaganda that is aimed at dividing the country and bringing it to a standstill. It is working. If your thinking goes something like this: "All (fill in the blank) are evil, cowardly, unpatriotic sons of bitches, and they are the cause of all of the country's ills," then you are probably a victim of this propaganda. Many of you folks write almost exactly that regularly. The propaganda is aimed at both sides, and specifically targeted Trump and Sanders supporters. Tread lightly friends, and put Americans first.


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Re: What is Divisive???
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FYI - the Russians are bombarding US citizens with propaganda that is aimed at dividing the country and bringing it to a standstill. It is working. If your thinking goes something like this: "All (fill in the blank) are evil, cowardly, unpatriotic sons of bitches, and they are the cause of all of the country's ills," then you are probably a victim of this propaganda. Many of you folks write almost exactly that regularly. The propaganda is aimed at both sides, and specifically targeted Trump and Sanders supporters. Tread lightly friends, and put Americans first.



Well said. Thanks Eers.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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FYI - the Russians are bombarding US citizens with propaganda that is aimed at dividing the country and bringing it to a standstill. It is working. If your thinking goes something like this: "All Conservatives and Independent Sanders supporters are evil, cowardly, unpatriotic sons of bitches, and they are the cause of all of the country's ills," then you are probably a victim of this propaganda. Many of you folks write almost exactly that regularly. The propaganda is aimed at both sides, and specifically targeted Trump and Sanders supporters. Tread lightly friends, and put Americans first.



I fixed it for you. Like you did in your next to last sentence.

Posted on: 10/27 9:07 am
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Re: What is Divisive???

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FYI - the Russians are bombarding US citizens with propaganda that is aimed at dividing the country and bringing it to a standstill. It is working. If your thinking goes something like this: "All Conservatives and Independent Sanders supporters are evil, cowardly, unpatriotic sons of bitches, and they are the cause of all of the country's ills," then you are probably a victim of this propaganda. Many of you folks write almost exactly that regularly. The propaganda is aimed at both sides, and specifically targeted Trump and Sanders supporters. Tread lightly friends, and put Americans first.



I fixed it for you. Like you did in your next to last sentence.


I didn't say anything bad about Trump and Sanders supporters at all. I said the Russians targeted them, which is a fact. This faux hypocrisy hunt is getting old.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Tread lightly friends, and put Americans first.



Trump says this and things like that all the timme and he gets attacked.

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Re: What is Divisive???
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Yea. These days, believing in individual rights, individual freemdoms, lower taxes and the smallest government possible is very divisive. Throw in a belief in the Constitution, as written, and the progressive socialist leftist fascists hate you.

It's still We The People, right???

Or is it We The Federal Government???


I think you believe in your freedoms, and screw everyone else that wants something different.

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